[Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

[Carlos]

4 hours ago, mirs1 said:

Well, they were reckless when they conceived Halley, so the birth control method they used didn't work for them, in the sense they forgot to use it, LOL! 

Well there is no non surgical method that can prevent stupidity or carelessness, is there?

[luminous]

Wow! The S11 discussion thread has already 362 pages. But then again, not very surprising since it was already opened on January 29, 2013.

Edit: Tensor is fixing the mess right now.

Edited October 4, 2017 by luminous

[Carlos]

2 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Of course, Sheldon has previously been Professor Proton Junior.

This is JMO. I really didn't care too much for Professor Proton. I found the character boring and uninteresting except for a few jokes in his first appearance in regards to how good Penny looked. I found the prospects of Professor Proton Jr. boring and uninteresting as well, touched by a big splash of pathetic.

Just now, luminous said:

Wow! The S11 discussion thread has already 362 pages. But then again, not very surprising since it was already opened on January 29, 2013.

Yeah, right? From one day to the other it jumped from 112 pages to 360. Talk about a time machine...

[April]

2 minutes ago, luminous said:

Wow! The S11 discussion thread has already 362 pages. But then again, not very surprising since it was already opened on January 29, 2013.

It seems to have been merged with the Kaley thread. LOL

[Carlos]

3 minutes ago, April said:

It seems to have been merged with the Kaley thread. LOL

Tripper works in mysterious ways...

[Tensor]

Thread is now locked, I'm working on it, please, discuss it in the Season 10 chit chat.  

 

 

 

[Tensor]

 OK, I've got enough posts in this thread to unlock it.  I still have a long way to go before I get everything moved over, so as I moved them over, you'll see the number of pages get bigger. 

On a side note, if you think there is a problem with a post, report it, don't comment on it, or on the poster.  Some posts have been edited or hidden.  

[Stephen Hawking]

18 hours ago, vonmar said:

 

That is one of the most awesome pictures I've ever seen of her.  

[luminous]

 

[Chrismo]

2 hours ago, Carlos said:

This is JMO. I really didn't care too much for Professor Proton. I found the character boring and uninteresting except for a few jokes in his first appearance in regards to how good Penny looked. I found the prospects of Professor Proton Jr. boring and uninteresting as well, touched by a big splash of pathetic.

 

The writers got give up on Proton. It's like watching up a washed up ball player. The only thing as bad as Proton  is FWF which I can see coming up soon. Fan fiction writers putt TBBT writers to shame.

40 minutes ago, luminous said:

 

There should be an ending number. I pray it's 2019 though after seeing the first two episodes it should of been 2017

[Tensor]

 

51 minutes ago, luminous said:

 

I think it's kinda cool that my favorite film, and my favorite TV show were filmed on the same stage. 

[HeWolf]

I really don't take issue with Bob Newhart (Professor Proton) appearing in Sheldon's dreams. Bob may not be to everyone's taste but I have always found him amusing. 

What doesn't work for me is the idea of Sheldon successfully assuming the role. We have seen from 'Fun With Flags' how wooden and totally lacking any screen presence he is on camera. (Another example of the phenomenal talents of Jim Parsons is how well he acts badly on FWF) It has also been proven that Sheldon is one of the worst ever, in-person, teacher/lecturers. If they put him in a lab coat and he is suddenly Mr. Charm and Personality it will be a total break from the established character. 

[April]

15 minutes ago, HeWolf said:

I really don't take issue with Bob Newhart (Professor Proton) appearing in Sheldon's dreams. Bob may not be to everyone's taste but I have always found him amusing. 

What doesn't work for me is the idea of Sheldon successfully assuming the role. We have seen from 'Fun With Flags' how wooden and totally lacking any screen presence he is on camera. (Another example of the phenomenal talents of Jim Parsons is how well he acts badly on FWF) It has also been proven that Sheldon is one of the worst ever, in-person, teacher/lecturers. If they put him in a lab coat and he is suddenly Mr. Charm and Personality it will be a total break from the established character. 

I'm not sure he needs to be "Mr. Charm and Personality" to succeed. PP himself didn't exactly emanate that in the few clips we've seen. As long as Sheldon is passionate about the science I think it could work fine, imho.

[Swedish Chef]

39 minutes ago, Tensor said:

 

I think it's kinda cool that my favorite film, and my favorite TV show were filmed on the same stage. 

Gremlins 2 ? 

[vonmar]

From TBBT You Tube Channel

 

[Tensor]

6 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

Gremlins 2 ? 

Yep, and Colt .45

[joyceraye]

4 hours ago, HeWolf said:

I remember the pilot quite well. Including the cold opening that most stations no longer air. 

There's a lot of talk in this thread concerning Bernadette, Howard and maternity/paternity leave. I realize that a lot of the forum members come from countries with differing perspectives, policies, and cultural norms concerning these issues but, in the United States, the law requires a firm such as Bernadette's to provide her with a minimum of 12 weeks of unpaid leave. California, has a law that requires her employer to pay her at least a partial amount of her salary. She could, of course, utilize any accrued personal time, but since she just came back from maternity leave there would likely not be much of a balance of such time available. Howard is also eligible for unpaid time off and, since they're in California, up to six weeks leave at partial pay. How much such tim e the Wallowitz's can afford would have to play into the amount of time either, or both, take.

Thanks for the explanation.  Had no idea it could be such an issue of affordability. ( I thought Howard's worry about money the first time was something completely different. ) With Bernadette not earning  for four or five months they could be losing a lot. Howard had paid paternity leave last time so perhaps NASA has that policy.

 

[HeWolf]

55 minutes ago, April said:

I'm not sure he needs to be "Mr. Charm and Personality" to succeed. PP himself didn't exactly emanate that in the few clips we've seen. As long as Sheldon is passionate about the science I think it could work fine, imho.

PP isn't suave or charming. No argument there. He is not Sheldon bad, though. My qualms relate to not seeing any format in which Sheldon pulls this off and succeeds. And, I really don't want to see another scenario in which he, or any of the others, are shown to be inept and embarrassed. It may be 'funny' but I see it as lazy writing and it's become tedious. As you said: imho

19 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Thanks for the explanation.  Had no idea it could be such an issue of affordability. ( I thought Howard's worry about money the first time was something completely different. ) With Bernadette not earning  for four or five months they could be losing a lot. Howard had paid paternity leave last time so perhaps NASA has that policy.

 

NASA is an agency of the federal government and they would have paid him nothing at all. Any paid leave he got was from using his vacation time, or from the California law that requires his public employer to pay him at least partial pay for up to six weeks of paternity leave.

Who Howard actually works for is a bit of an unexplained mystery. Assuming NASA actually employed him for his space flight it doesn't necessarily mean that they continued to do so upon his return. 

From the NASA website:

What is the annual salary for astronauts?

Salaries for civilian Astronaut Candidates are based upon the Federal Government's General Schedule pay scale for grades GS-11 through GS-14. The grade is determined in accordance with each individual's academic achievements and experience. Currently a GS-11 starts at $66,026 per year and a GS-14 can earn up to $144,566 per year.

Military Astronaut Candidates are detailed to the Johnson Space Center and remain in an active duty status for pay, benefits, leave, and other similar military matters.

  Civilian candidates who successfully complete the training and evaluation and are selected as astronauts will become permanent Federal employees.

That last sentence may mean he still works for NASA. I'm not really clear on that.

Edited October 4, 2017 by HeWolf

[bfm]

6 hours ago, joyceraye said:

At the same time, I don't get why they are so bothered about having their children close together. Considering Bernadette's age and how late she was able to begin a career worthy of her education, completing the family in one go seems the best idea. After this maternity leave she won't have to interrupt her work again. She can carry on up the career ladder for the next thirty years or  more. 

What if they didn't want another child at all? I think they didn't get the chance to even think about that...

Edited October 4, 2017 by bfm

[April]

2 minutes ago, HeWolf said:

PP isn't suave or charming. No argument there. He is not Sheldon bad, though. My qualms relate to not seeing any format in which Sheldon pulls this off and succeeds. And, I really don't want to see another scenario in which he, or any of the others, are shown to be inept and embarrassed. It may be 'funny' but I see it as lazy writing and it's become tedious. And, as you said: imho

I guess we have different ideas about what "succeed" means in this scenario. I don't think he'll magically turn into Bill Nye or whoever pulling off an instant hit show. But a quirky little science show aimed at kids? Maybe even with him recreating some experiments he did himself when he was young (Hello there, YS crossover!)?? Sure, why not?

I mean, yes, Sheldon is a terrible actor and FwF is pretty much build around that. But with the PP thing if he gets caught up geeking out about the science he can be cute enough for it to not be a complete failure.

Anyway, for me at least a lot of the allure of the idea isn't even that he somehow produces a hit show but rather that he reconnects with his enthusiasm for science, hence the PP connection.

[mirs1]

Edited October 4, 2017 by mirs1

[Die Zimtzicke]

6 hours ago, Tensor said:

Broke his promise?  Or, they had a discussion and they decided to put Halley in day care at Cal Tech?

I didn't see what I considered to be an in depth discussion about whether or not to put her in day care vs. Howard keeping his promise. So I'm not sure how they arrived at that decision. This was to me a promise made to a character by another character, though. Not a vague throw away line by one character at the beginning of the show.

[vonmar]

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Edited October 4, 2017 by vonmar

[Stephen Hawking]

2 hours ago, Chrismo said:

I pray it's 2019 though after seeing the first two episodes it should of been 2017

I'd be quite happy if it said 2029.

[Die Zimtzicke]

2 hours ago, HeWolf said:

What doesn't work for me is the idea of Sheldon successfully assuming the role. We have seen from 'Fun With Flags' how wooden and totally lacking any screen presence he is on camera.

I think he could pull of some science experiments for kids and do it well. STEM is huge right now and he might be able to dredge up the needed enthusiasm needed, since he's probably going to be looking at this in terms of what it meant to him as a child. Most of the focus will be on the experiments and what's going on, not Sheldon himself anyway. I'm not willing to throw in the towel on this yet. I need to see what actually happens and how they do it.