Jonny Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, 3ku11 said: Well Ratings well determine it's continued shelf life. TBBT reguarly wins its timeslot. You can't watch it if the Ratings suddenly decline. And the show suddenly becomes way too expensive to produce. Particularly if their is no longer a profit in it. Let' be honest the writers don't care about this show anymore. You just have to see them constantly goofing off on their IG Stories too see that. Accuse me of over exagerrating. And before anyone tells me oh they are allowed to have fun. Too much if you ask me. Every time I see a IG story from Alex Ayers. The comment is "A Break". When are they not having a break lol. Its is a constant thing. A two year renewal has clearly made the writers even more complacenet. Continue to be in Air Pilot Motion. So they are less prone to take more risks and be more bolder. Hence why were getting so many recycled stories. Writing for the no.1 entertainment show on US TV? Of course they care, there is a lot of prestige for being a writer for this show. There are always storyline choices, decisions and perhaps even focus that people might not agree with or question, but I don't think you can question the actual effort they put into their craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Jonny said: Writing for the no.1 entertainment show on US TV? Of course they care, there is a lot of prestige for being a writer for this show. There are always storyline choices, decisions and perhaps even focus that people might not agree with or question, but I don't think you can question the actual effort they put into their craft. I agree that they care. But until another shows come along to compete in ratings they can take the easy way out. You get recycled storylines. There are storyline choices and decisions. Amy saying yes. Easy way out. Bernadette pregnant . Putting effort into their craft. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
April Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Jonny said: Writing for the no.1 entertainment show on US TV? Of course they care, there is a lot of prestige for being a writer for this show. There are always storyline choices, decisions and perhaps even focus that people might not agree with or question, but I don't think you can question the actual effort they put into their craft. Totally agree. It's easy to say "Oh they're just lazy!" but in the end it's a group effort with everyone having more or less different ideas and sorting that out and form a somewhat coherent narrative out of it is probably not the easiest task sometimes. I have no doubt they're thoroughly pondering their options whenever they make some of the big decisions. (I'd love to be a fly on the wall though! haha) Anyway, we're now dealing with a partially new creative team so it'll be interesting to see where the show is going this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Chrismo said: Amy saying yes. Easy way out. Shamy have been together for over six years, and you expect her to say no? Also, it wasn't that long ago, that Amy was bemoaning the fact Penny and Bernadette were married, and she hadn't been even engaged once. Edited October 7, 2017 by Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veejay Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, April said: Totally agree. It's easy to say "Oh they're just lazy!" but in the end it's a group effort with everyone having more or less different ideas and sorting that out and form a somewhat coherent narrative out of it is probably not the easiest task sometimes. I have no doubt they're thoroughly pondering their options whenever they make some of the big decisions. (I'd love to be a fly on the wall though! haha) Anyway, we're now dealing with a partially new creative team so it'll be interesting to see where the show is going this year. I agree with you. Based on the first known results of the tapings I can also see a bit of a change on story telling. For me and my expectation this should include, that the writers moving away from a common couple fixation towards generally topics (geekie, science, university, roadtrips, babies...whatev, for the sake of fun) and more group dynamics. "Back to the future" with more pointed dialogues, which quit the usual way of the quick and dumb jokes getting more room for development and thus soften the sometimes very cartoonish nature of the characters. This would also enhance the credibility of the stories, even though I do not expect a constant continuity in them (as a sitcom). So, yes, I have to wait and watch again. To be in confident of... Yes, I'm sure. Edited October 7, 2017 by veejay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Chrismo said: I agree that they care. But until another shows come along to compete in ratings they can take the easy way out. You get recycled storylines. There are storyline choices and decisions. Amy saying yes. Easy way out. Bernadette pregnant . Putting effort into their craft. LOL. In life stories get recycled. To all of us some things happen more than once. Families have more than one child. Work causes trouble. Anniversaries happen every year. Hope gets disappointed. Relationships get screwed up. Quarrels get made up. Problems get resolved. Christmas shopping, taking the dog to the vet, wedding invitations arriving,messages getting garbled,things getting broken,keys getting lost are all things that get done or happen many times over and over. The thing about BBT that keeps me watching is that the people feel real. Reality is repetitive: change happens and sameness happens and life moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, joyceraye said: In life stories get recycled. To all of us some things happen more than once. Families have more than one child. Work causes trouble. Anniversaries happen every year. Hope gets disappointed. Relationships get screwed up. Quarrels get made up. Problems get resolved. Christmas shopping, taking the dog to the vet, wedding invitations arriving,messages getting garbled,things getting broken,keys getting lost are all things that get done or happen many times over and over. The thing about BBT that keeps me watching is that the people feel real. Reality is repetitive: change happens and sameness happens and life moves on. Great post! These reasons had kept me watching too. I rather prefer a show which repeat some plots for express reality in these characters lives than plots very creative but out of character or out of usual plot meaning in sake of weekly originality. At some point the creativity win but the show would loose its track. Personally I would not want it for tbbt. In fact,I think the impact the viewer get from the storyplots of a show depend much of how the viewer enjoy them. I mean, if the viewer is more likely to expect laughing about the plots, they tend to expect more creativity and less repetition; if the viewer likely expect to watch the characters lives envolve, some repetition and trouble will be expected. After all life doesnt smile all the time to all of us. The challenge is to handle with that in best way and tbbt between laughs and more serious plots reach that sense of reality imo. To me is really great and make me wait every week for more from this show with a good mesure of enthusiasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Hilts Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, joyceraye said: In life stories get recycled. To all of us some things happen more than once. Families have more than one child. Work causes trouble. Anniversaries happen every year. Hope gets disappointed. Relationships get screwed up. Quarrels get made up. Problems get resolved. Christmas shopping, taking the dog to the vet, wedding invitations arriving,messages getting garbled,things getting broken,keys getting lost are all things that get done or happen many times over and over. The thing about BBT that keeps me watching is that the people feel real. Reality is repetitive: change happens and sameness happens and life moves on. Stop bringing logic into these discussions!!!! And, the fun in watching shows on TV - for many people - is to see how fictional folks deal with these standard situations of life. Edited October 7, 2017 by Capt. Hilts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Hilts Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 CBS's ad for its online streaming service begins with a TBBT clip. The show is used in so many ways as a means of advertising/boosting other shows, other CBS/Warner services, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said: Stop bringing logic into these discussions!!!! And, the fun in watching shows on TV - for many people - is to see how fictional folks deal with these standard situations of life. Why not the logic? @joycerae made a great point and a very well explained post. It always bring great light to a good discussion imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Hilts Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, spidergirl said: Why not the logic? @joycerae made a great point and a very well explained post. It always bring great light to a good discussion imo. I was using irony. Difficult for non-native speakers to notice. I should have typed more clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidergirl Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said: I was using irony. Difficult for non-native speakers to notice. I should have typed more clearly. It is difficult to notice in a writing post because you cant hear the tone or see the body language of the poster. Nothing to do with be or not be non-native speakers. I can have a better discussion here than many native speakers. Sorry but imo your conclusion about my earlier post is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 4 hours ago, joyceraye said: In life stories get recycled. To all of us some things happen more than once. Families have more than one child. Work causes trouble. Anniversaries happen every year. Hope gets disappointed. Relationships get screwed up. Quarrels get made up. Problems get resolved. Christmas shopping, taking the dog to the vet, wedding invitations arriving,messages getting garbled,things getting broken,keys getting lost are all things that get done or happen many times over and over. The thing about BBT that keeps me watching is that the people feel real. Reality is repetitive: change happens and sameness happens and life moves on. Nicely said, and for me, the way they have each of these characters go through these situations and handle them in a way that is uniquely their own shows the effort the writers put in to the writing. I completely get the preference to seasons, stories or characters but the fact they have been able to evolve these characters from where they were to where they are and still maintain enough of what makes them who they are is IMO impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Capt. Hilts said: I was using irony. Difficult for non-native speakers to notice. I should have typed more clearly. I think we all got the irony, don't worry. I'm used to hearing that one. LOL. I'm afraid logic is what I do. It kills discussions sometimes but I've never learned how to keep my mouth shut. Edited October 7, 2017 by joyceraye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Hilts Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, spidergirl said: It is difficult to notice in a writing post because you cant hear the tone or see the body language of the poster. Nothing to do with be or not be non-native speakers. I can have a better discussion here than many native speakers. Sorry but imo your conclusion about my earlier post is not true. It was a JOKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Anne Wheaton was on set watching Wil tape this past Tuesday... This little blurb from her in the comments caught my eye... thewaitshomestead Did you lay your head on Sheldon's spot? annewheaton @thewaitshomestead No way because BUTTS. But here's a fun fact: If you want to take pictures here after filming, you have to do it quick before the set designers cover the sofa with a tarp. You know why? Because feral cats have gotten into the sound stage after everyone has gone home and they've peed on the sofa cushions! After replacing them more than once, they decided using tarps was an easy solution because the cats don't like to walk on them. HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry PopTart Fan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 6 hours ago, joyceraye said: In life stories get recycled. To all of us some things happen more than once. Families have more than one child. Work causes trouble. Anniversaries happen every year. Hope gets disappointed. Relationships get screwed up. Quarrels get made up. Problems get resolved. Christmas shopping, taking the dog to the vet, wedding invitations arriving,messages getting garbled,things getting broken,keys getting lost are all things that get done or happen many times over and over. The thing about BBT that keeps me watching is that the people feel real. Reality is repetitive: change happens and sameness happens and life moves on. Love your post! And I will add I love spending a half hour with these characters that I have become so attached to even if the episode isn't the greatest. I'll have repeats on when I'm doing other things just to have them around and usually get sucked into the story even though I've seen it 10 times already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, Strawberry PopTart Fan said: and usually get sucked into the story even though I've seen it 10 times already. Only 10 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Recycled stories in real life? Well the show is not real life, it is fiction. IT is a problem when they are recylcing the same old stories. Sorry don't buy the excuse the characters are the ones real, or the reality. That is the issue. The show has dealed with more real world issues. So it is just not fun anymore, it is more darker in tone then it used to be. Their are alot of sitcoms, Friends for example. Who tried new things, and did not recycle the same old stories. So I Don't see why TBBT has to use repeated cannon. And some how some justify their laziness by. Life huh . While I understand Reality is repeitive. That is fine. But like I Said it is ficitional. People watch shows like TBBT to get an escape from reality. Not more recycled, said reality. Edited October 7, 2017 by 3ku11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said: Shamy have been together for over six years, and you expect her to say no? Also, it wasn't that long ago, that Amy was bemoaning the fact Penny and Bernadette were married, and she hadn't been even engaged once. Fine. If she was going to say yes why make me it a cliffhanger? Yes she was bemoaning to the girls. Another reason IMO for her to say no. It would of been IMO more unpredictable. Instead the show had been as predictable as the sun rising in the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Chrismo said: Instead the show had been as predictable as the sun rising in the east. The sun doesn't rise in the East. Indeed, the sun doesn't rise at all. It's the earth that rotates, exposing its surface to the sunlight. Edited October 7, 2017 by Stephen Hawking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said: The sun doesn't rise in the East. Indeed, the sun doesn't rise at all. It's the earth that rotates, exposing its surface to he sunlight. Just as predictable as TBBT has become Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Hawking Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Being a physicist, I like to be precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Chrismo said: Fine. If she was going to say yes why make me it a cliffhanger? Yes she was bemoaning to the girls. Another reason IMO for her to say no. It would of been IMO more unpredictable. Instead the show had been as predictable as the sun rising in the east. Well yes the shows main issue since Season 7. Has been how predictable it has become. The show should try to be more unpredictable. But alas their jobs are safe. So what do they care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, 3ku11 said: Well yes the shows main issue since Season 7. Has been how predictable it has become. The show should try to be more unpredictable. Predictable you say. Like, Amy hugging Ramona in the tag scene of 11.1? Who would have expected Sheldon to sublet his old room to a bum? Unexpected unpredictable stuff happens all the time. A favorite from 9.03 Edited October 8, 2017 by djsurrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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