[Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

[djsurrey]

2 hours ago, Jessicur said:

But the thing is, I didn't find it surprising. I was literally like, pleaseee let her thank Ramona lol and then she did and it was such a relief. I found it to be the most logical reaction. If it weren't for Ramona, Amy wouldn't have gotten engaged. 

I get it and loved it. It just was not what I was expecting (although last summer I had a passing thought; what if Amy asked her to do it to get Sheldon moving -- she can be manipulative).

Edited October 9, 2017 by djsurrey

[luminous]

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[3ku11]

9 hours ago, Chrismo said:

I found it a why waste time on this moment. Kind of just filled time when the writers could of been more creative. Though their lack of creativity is predictable. What would been more unpredictable would of been Amy being pissed at Sheldon for letting Ramona get to the point of kissing him. The old and predictable Sheldon was clueless on what was going was pulled out AGAIN!!!'

If they stuck to canon there would be no Amy

Well if they stuck to original cannon their would be no Amy. As they have thrown cannon out the window as far as Sheldon has gone. Look if your fine with consistent stories. Same stories we have seen in previous seasons. But it is maintaining character continuity. And repeitiveness is part of life, that is fine. I just don't see the point of watching an episode I have seen before, just because it is familiar. I agree their lack of creativity is predictable, that was really my point. Amy hugging Ramona was hardly unpredictable I Agree. IT was typical Amy letting it slide. And for all of Sheldons growth. IF his social awareness was so improoved he should of picked up on Ramonas advances and intentions. But they went for the same old oh Sheldon is clueless, that is why he is not in the wrong. 

[JE7]

56 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

If they stuck to canon there would be no Amy

canon dosent mean nothing ever changes just that they remember and acknowledge what has come before.

Leonard and penny were both single in the pilot, them getting married was not a violation of canon it was character development 

The same goes for sheldon and amy over the years people change that in itself does not violate canon.

I and most likely April and a few others here are veterans of true, decades long "canon wars" 

Edited October 9, 2017 by JE7
Yes TAS is canon :)

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Happy new episode day!

 

[djsurrey]

 

21 minutes ago, JE7 said:

canon dosent mean nothing ever changes just that they remember and acknowledge what has come before.

Yes Change should have motivation and logic.

[April]

1 hour ago, JE7 said:

canon dosent mean nothing ever changes just that they remember and acknowledge what has come before.

Leonard and penny were both single in the pilot, them getting married was not a violation of canon it was character development 

The same goes for sheldon and amy over the years people change that in itself does not violate canon.

I and most likely April and a few others here are veterans of true, decades long "canon wars" 

LOL Yep. Been in various fandoms for 20+ years - all these words have specific meanings and if you just throw them around randomly your comment won't make any sense.

[Chrismo]

4 hours ago, JE7 said:

canon dosent mean nothing ever changes just that they remember and acknowledge what has come before.

Leonard and penny were both single in the pilot, them getting married was not a violation of canon it was character development 

The same goes for sheldon and amy over the years people change that in itself does not violate canon.

I and most likely April and a few others here are veterans of true, decades long "canon wars" 

It was always suggested that Leonard and Penny would end up together. Howard was always looking for someone. My point was Sheldon ending up with someone went against canon. He was always more than happy to be single. He even stated he needed no one else because he founded himself interesting  enough on his own.. Amy's presence was/is for ratings nothing else.

[Stephen Hawking]

9 hours ago, Jessicur said:

If it weren't for Ramona, Amy wouldn't have gotten engaged. 

If it weren't for Dave Gibbs, Amy could've been engaged more than a year ago.

[JE7]

52 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

It was always suggested that Leonard and Penny would end up together. Howard was always looking for someone. My point was Sheldon ending up with someone went against canon. He was always more than happy to be single. He even stated he needed no one else because he founded himself interesting  enough on his own.. Amy's presence was/is for ratings nothing else.

You keep saying canon. Leonerd getting his doctorate from Princeton is canon, it has been plainly stated multipule times. What you think was "suggested" is not.

What you are arguing is at best continuity specifically  in sheldons charecter, and since continuity in charecter development is subject to viewer bias based on how they feel about the charecter in general it is opinion not canon fact.

Using the word Canon does not make your thoughts  on sheldons "growth and change" or Amys reason for being a fact.

I would suggest you look up the definition of canon if you are going to keep bringing it up in your argument

Edited October 9, 2017 by JE7

[Die Zimtzicke]

20 hours ago, Capt. Hilts said:

If Amy were from The South, she'd a said, "Bless her heart..." about Ramona.

I thought she was going to agree with Mary Cooper and say a slightly less religious versions of, " A good Christian would have turned the other cheek. On the other hand, a good Texan would have shot her, so I'll just split the difference."

31 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

If it weren't for Dave Gibbs, Amy could've been engaged more than a year ago.

I wish he'd come back. He was hilarious. I really though his worship of Sheldon was setting something up. I was so disappointed when it was not.

[Capt. Hilts]

I just love Mary Cooper.

[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

  1 hour ago, Stephen Hawking said:

"If it weren't for Dave Gibbs, Amy could've been engaged more than a year ago."

I wish he'd come back. He was hilarious. I really thought his worship of Sheldon was setting something up. I was so disappointed when it was not.

Same here. If they can get Stephen Merchant back even for one episode I'll be happy. They've managed to get Stephen Hawking three times since him. He can't be that hard to get hold of, surely ? Dave could be Alex's or Ramona's date for some do or other and they could both hit it off talking about physics and Sheldon. Perhaps Sheldon could bump into him on a train to somewhere and finally find time to shoot a little breeze.

[bfm]

9 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Same here. If they can get Stephen Merchant back even for one episode I'll be happy. They've managed to get Stephen Hawking three times since him. He can't be that hard to get hold of, surely ? Dave could be Alex's or Ramona's date for some do or other and they could both hit it off talking about physics and Sheldon. Perhaps Sheldon could bump into him on a train to somewhere and finally find time to shoot a little breeze.

They would have to get Alex back from the parallel universe she apparently got sucked into for that. They might find Stephanie there as well. Maybe Sheldon's black hole generator is real after all?

Edited October 9, 2017 by bfm

[Jessicur]

8 hours ago, Chrismo said:

I found it a why waste time on this moment. Kind of just filled time when the writers could of been more creative. Though their lack of creativity is predictable. What would been more unpredictable would of been Amy being pissed at Sheldon for letting Ramona get to the point of kissing him. The old and predictable Sheldon was clueless on what was going was pulled out AGAIN!!!'

My point was that for women watching, it wasn't a waste of time. It was one of those small victories where the female character is not portrayed like some jealous teen and instead like the logical adult she is. It's okay if you didn't like though, not every joke is meant for every viewer. Of course we'd all have different opinions.

[Stephen Hawking]

2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I really though his worship of Sheldon was setting something up. I was so disappointed when it was not.

In a sense, it was setting something up.

If it weren't for his worship of Sheldon, I doubt he'd have given up Amy without a fight.

I know I wouldn't have just given her up.

2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I thought she was going to agree with Mary Cooper and say a slightly less religious versions of, " A good Christian would have turned the other cheek. On the other hand, a good Texan would have shot her, so I'll just split the difference."

Maybe she took a leaf of out of Penny book, and later went a shot a cushion.  

[Carlos]

1 hour ago, Jessicur said:

My point was that for women watching, it wasn't a waste of time. It was one of those small victories where the female character is not portrayed like some jealous teen and instead like the logical adult she is. It's okay if you didn't like though, not every joke is meant for every viewer. Of course we'd all have different opinions.

While I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion, I can't say that I agree with it either. It looks to me as if you're implying that any other reaction than the one Amy had would've been wrong. I think that any "normal" reaction Amy had would have been equally as valid. At the end of the day what Ramona did was wrong, what Sheldon did was stupid and wrong so whichever way Amy's reaction went would've been OK with me.

Edited October 9, 2017 by Carlos

[hokie3457]

3 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I wish he'd come back. He was hilarious. I really though his worship of Sheldon was setting something up. I was so disappointed when it was not.

A great thing about Dave was that he was a “physicist enthusiast”. He was so excited to meet Dr Leonard Hofstadter after his 2nd date with Amy. “OMG! Are you Dr Leonard Hofstadter?”  and “Amy! Do you believe it? It’s Dr Leonard Hofstadter!”

[Capt. Hilts]

1 hour ago, Jessicur said:

My point was that for women watching, it wasn't a waste of time. It was one of those small victories where the female character is not portrayed like some jealous teen and instead like the logical adult she is. It's okay if you didn't like though, not every joke is meant for every viewer. Of course we'd all have different opinions.

Magnanimous in victory?

[Stephen Hawking]

2 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Dave could be Alex's or Ramona's date for some do or other

Maybe the wedding?

[bfm]

10 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Maybe the wedding?

Dave popping out at the wedding would be hilarious! (IMO)

[Stephen Hawking]

2 hours ago, bfm said:

They might find Stephanie there as well.

And maybe Martha.  

31 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

He was so excited to meet Dr Leonard Hofstadter after his 2nd date with Amy.

I think you mean his 3rd date with Amy.

[vonmar]

Happy new episode day!

[Capt. Hilts]

1 hour ago, Stephen Hawking said:

And maybe Martha.  

I liked Martha, too.

[Stephen Hawking]

2 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said:

I liked Martha, too.

She was pretty awesome.