[Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

[bfm]

8 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Well, when I examine the totality of the statements made by Sheldon, my overall assessment is that he is generally less credible than those around him. 

His whackiness is the basis of the show. It’s not like his schtick is about speaking truth to power. To some degree his role is to say those things said by drunk uncles at family gatherings  - to get a laugh in the context of the show. 

As to prophetic powers - who knows. But Sheldon’s opinions - which is what he was expressing at the time - are generally and by design completely whack.

As evidence I refer you to.... the show. Pick any episode for examples.  

 

Edit: carve out physics. That’s not opinion.

Example: he thought there is no way Lenny will ever get together.

[Die Zimtzicke]

20 hours ago, Tensor said:

Might be because Leonard's comment was brought up again (by someone other than Leonard, and in a way that suggested it's been brought up, off camera by Leonard more than that one time), and Sheldon's comment hasn't been brought up again.

You must have more faith in the writers than I do.

On 11/11/2017 at 3:15 PM, Carlos said:

Well... but solving Penny's employment situation is waaaaaaaaaaaaay simpler than filming in a new apartment building, and therefore changing all the sets.

They could redecorate. Or Penny could help Amy redecorate. Shamy needs a bigger couch or bed at least. I hate seeing them on that old couch.

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41 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

 They could redecorate. Or Penny could help Amy redecorate. Shamy needs a bigger couch or bed at least. I hate seeing them on that old couch.

Yes! As a Penny (and Leonard) addict, actually it kills my mood any time I have to see this. It's always difficult for me to let go of things and holy memories which it's already history...

... and this is just one of the many examples that come to mind. 

[Jonny]

6 minutes ago, veejay said:

Yes! As a Penny (and Leonard) addict, actually it kills my mood any time I have to see this. It's always difficult for me to let go of things and holy memories which it's already history...

... and this is just one of the many examples that come to mind. 

I think it needs to go as well, but I'm kind of curious in terms of the thought process of Lennies and what would you do with it? Would you be happy to see it completely gone? Or is it seen as another iconic piece of furniture on the set and has to be seen somewhere?

I always thought that maybe if they actually had turned Sheldon's old room into a gaming room it could go in there as something for them to sit on. But with a child possibly on the way at some point  and if they actually have a child before the show ends I don't think that would happen, it would become a nursery and I don't think that couch would match it.

I think the discussion is fairly moot really as I have zero expectations that they will change it.

[veejay]

16 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I think it needs to go as well, but I'm kind of curious in terms of the thought process of Lennies and what would you do with it? Would you be happy to see it completely gone? Or is it seen as another iconic piece of furniture on the set and has to be seen somewhere?

I always thought that maybe if they actually had turned Sheldon's old room into a gaming room it could go in there as something for them to sit on. But with a child possibly on the way at some point  and if they actually have a child before the show ends I don't think that would happen, it would become a nursery and I don't think that couch would match it.

I think the discussion is fairly moot really as I have zero expectations that they will change it.

Maybe I should ask a psychologist for advice.

[Tensor]

1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

You must have more faith in the writers than I do.

Actually, I don't have all that much faith in the writers.  But, I'm not sure what having more faith in the writers has to do with any of this.  You asked why someone might put more credence in Leonard's comment than Sheldon's.   It's simply a fact that Leonard's comment has more to back it up, than Sheldon's.   

[hokie3457]

1 minute ago, Tensor said:

Actually, I don't have all that much faith in the writers.  But, I'm not sure what having more faith in the writers has to do with any of this.  You asked why someone might put more credence in Leonard's comment than Sheldon's.   It's simply a fact that Leonard's comment has more to back it up, than Sheldon's.   

I think each of their quotes/comments reveal much about their respective characters and is true to who they were in the early days of the series. Leonard’s comment was positive and full of hope. Sheldon’s was more cynical....(my thoughts only...).

[veejay]

4 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

I think each of their quotes/comments reveal much about their respective characters and is true to who they were in the early days of the series. Leonard’s comment was positive and full of hope. Sheldon’s was more cynical....(my thoughts only...).

Sorry I have to defend Sheldon here. I think he understands either sarcasm nor cynicism.

[hokie3457]

Just now, veejay said:

Sorry I have to defend Sheldon here. I think he understands either sarcasm nor cynicism.

I think you are correct in that he doesn’t understand the concept of either sarcasm or cynicism, but he can have opinions that are sarcastic or cynical.

[Carlos]

2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

They could redecorate. Or Penny could help Amy redecorate. Shamy needs a bigger couch or bed at least. I hate seeing them on that old couch.

But they are the ones who decided to stay in Penny's old apartment. I don't think Amy's old apartment was much bigger, was it? I believe the living situations/quarters are just a mere manifestation of the show to build new sets or even in some case re-dress old ones. In the case of 4 A, I most definitely think that they should have, at least,  gotten the dining table from "The table polarization" episode. Furthermore, I would be delighted it they showed Lenny's bedroom again with much less of a Penny influence. Last time I saw it, it was, IMO, skewed too much in  Penny's direction. Finally, I would love to see Sheldon's old bedroom converted to a playroom in which both Leonard and Penny could share fun activities. No, not that! they already have the rest of the apartment to frolic in. Perhaps Leonard could have all his nerdy trinkets there proudly on display. Penny could have Nebraska Cornhuskers paraphernalia, etc.

While I know it will never be done, I wouldn't mind getting a different living room arrangement (sofa, seat, coffee table, TV). I can dream, can I not?

[veejay]

8 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

I think you are correct in that he doesn’t understand the concept of either sarcasm or cynicism, but he can have opinions that are sarcastic or cynical.

Oh yes, we all have also some particular opinions on that.

6 minutes ago, Carlos said:

But they are the ones who decided to stay in Penny's old apartment. I don't think Amy's old apartment was much bigger, was it? I believe the living situations/quarters are just a mere manifestation of the show to build new sets or even in some case re-dress old ones. In the case of 4 A, I most definitely think that they should have, at least,  gotten the dining table from "The table polarization" episode. Furthermore, I would be delighted it they showed Lenny's bedroom again with much less of a Penny influence. Last time I saw it, it was, IMO, skewed too much in  Penny's direction. Finally, I would love to see Sheldon's old bedroom converted to a playroom in which both Leonard and Penny could share fun activities. No, not that! they already have the rest of the apartment to frolic in. Perhaps Leonard could have all his nerdy trinkets there proudly on display. Penny could have Nebraska Cornhuskers paraphernalia, etc.

While I know it will never be done, I wouldn't mind getting a different living room arrangement (sofa, seat, coffee table, TV). I can dream, can I not?

Of course! With your post, you put more than one finger in some wounds. Seriously, thank you.

[Swedish Chef]

2 hours ago, Carlos said:

But they are the ones who decided to stay in Penny's old apartment. I don't think Amy's old apartment was much bigger, was it? I believe the living situations/quarters are just a mere manifestation of the show to build new sets or even in some case re-dress old ones. In the case of 4 A, I most definitely think that they should have, at least,  gotten the dining table from "The table polarization" episode. Furthermore, I would be delighted it they showed Lenny's bedroom again with much less of a Penny influence. Last time I saw it, it was, IMO, skewed too much in  Penny's direction. Finally, I would love to see Sheldon's old bedroom converted to a playroom in which both Leonard and Penny could share fun activities. No, not that! they already have the rest of the apartment to frolic in. Perhaps Leonard could have all his nerdy trinkets there proudly on display. Penny could have Nebraska Cornhuskers paraphernalia, etc.

While I know it will never be done, I wouldn't mind getting a different living room arrangement (sofa, seat, coffee table, TV). I can dream, can I not?

It would indeed be nice with a new living room arrangement in 4A, but as you said it will sadly probably never happen. I would also want to see Lenny's bedroom again and with some nice bedroom scene between Leonard and Penny but again I don't think this will happen. It is really funny to me that Penny decorated the bedroom the way she did because her old bedroom in 4B doesn't look anything like the new bedroom in 4A and I'm guessing that Sheldon's old bedroom will be a nursery for the future Lenny baby or babies. 

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I think the blue couch could go in a nursery, something to sit on when feeding or watching the baby... Or if/when they buy a house they could have it there. Anyway there's no baby and no house anytime soon so this is all moot...

[Swedish Chef]

3 hours ago, veejay said:

Yes! As a Penny (and Leonard) addict, actually it kills my mood any time I have to see this. It's always difficult for me to let go of things and holy memories which it's already history...

... and this is just one of the many examples that come to mind. 

We can't throw out that iconic piece of furniture, it is as holy as the kitchen island for us Lennies. 

[veejay]

1 hour ago, Lagernisse said:

We can't throw out that iconic piece of furniture, it is as holy as the kitchen island for us Lennies. 

I wasn't thinking of throwing the couch away. I'm just uncomfortable watching Sheldon and Amy on this iconic piece of furniture. There are too many irretrievable memories that come up when I look at it.

Edited November 13, 2017 by veejay
#getoutofOurSpot.

[Capt. Hilts]

8 minutes ago, veejay said:

I wasn't thinking of throwing the couch away. I'm just uncomfortable watching Sheldon and Amy on this iconic piece of furniture. There are too many irretrievable memories that come up when I look at it.

 

And they don't fit on it.  Sheldon looks like he's sitting on kids furniture.

[veejay]

3 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said:

And they don't fit on it.  Sheldon looks like he's sitting on kids furniture.

That seems appropriate.

[Swedish Chef]

7 minutes ago, veejay said:

I wasn't thinking of throwing the couch away. I'm just uncomfortable watching Sheldon and Amy on this iconic piece of furniture. There are too many irretrievable memories that come up when I look at it.

Alright we can ask Chuck, Bill and Steve if they can move it to Sheldon's old bedroom. 

[veejay]

11 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

Alright we can ask Chuck, Bill and Steve if they can move it to Sheldon's old bedroom. 

They are too busy to find the proper script for this scenario.

[3ku11]

Could of been avoided with Lenny just moving to 4B. And Amy taking Leonard's room. But Alas. 

I do agree it is a tad disturbing seeing Shamy on Lenny's couch lol. Considering the deep history on that couch (gross). So maybe Lenny could take it. And Shamy go and buy a new couch or something. 

[joyceraye]

5 hours ago, veejay said:

Maybe I should ask a psychologist for advice.

Beverly ?

[bfm]

I find it harder to believe Shamy just kept Penny's bed. This is very un-Sheldon-like, IMO. Why wouldn't he ask to exchange beds? Have his own bed and put Penny's in Lenny's spare bedroom.

[Capt. Hilts]

4 minutes ago, bfm said:

I find it harder to believe Shamy just kept Penny's bed. This is very un-Sheldon-like, IMO. Why wouldn't he ask to exchange beds? Have his own bed and put Penny's in Lenny's spare bedroom.

TOTALLY agree.

His is much nicer looking, as well.

[Judith]

6 minutes ago, bfm said:

I find it harder to believe Shamy just kept Penny's bed. This is very un-Sheldon-like, IMO. Why wouldn't he ask to exchange beds? Have his own bed and put Penny's in Lenny's spare bedroom.

Sheldon's bed was so small he couldn't fit in properly. It would have looked ridiculous if he and Amy slept on that bed. As for Penny's bed it's not difficult to buy a mattress so I imagine they did that.

[Carlos]

3 minutes ago, Capt. Hilts said:

TOTALLY agree.

His is much nicer looking, as well.

I don't know about nicer looking, but if memory serves me right, his own bed fits Sheldon better, doesn't it?