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That not what I said.  What I meant was in my reply to your first reply to me last night was that a Husband (or Wife) who had 10, 20, 30 or more affairs over many, many years of marriage is a not a good spouse. A person who only has one affair over many years of marriage is not  necessarily a bad spouse unless of course if  that affair went or goes on for many many years 

28 minutes ago, veejay said:

Just a little heads-up! :shy:

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3 minutes ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

 Now you are just twisting what I said. I did not say that was the magic number or that there is a magic number because there is none. Maybe you should see how I replied to that person 

That not what I said.  What I meant was in my reply to your first reply to me last night was that a Husband (or Wife) who had 10, 20, 30 or more affairs over many, many years of marriage is a not a good spouse. A person who only has one affair over many years of marriage is not  necessarily a bad spouse unless of course if  that affair went or goes on for many many years 

Happy Birthday! Hope you have a god day. 

What theory are you talking about? There i no theory lol 

This is not your theory? Because besides you, I didn't see anyone else who were saying this.

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4 minutes ago, KripkeRules said:

This is not your theory? Because besides you, I didn't see anyone else who were saying this.

There is no theory here anywhere! No one ever mentions a theory here.  You are the one who started this whole argument. We are all allowed to have our own opinion here. 

 

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7 hours ago, Tensor said:

 

My daughter suggested that Amy's is going to find out she's pregnant in February or March.   She seems to think that Shamy are going to get back at Howardette for them getting pregnant in Sheldon's bed.  

Your daughter is not alone. It's been suggested here too. They have 90 days from last week in which to get married. They'll be househunting soon.

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1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

Your daughter is not alone. It's been suggested here too. They have 90 days from last week in which to get married. They'll be househunting soon

My daughter said the same thing. Maybe it's a daughter thing.

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19 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

 

I sold my alto sax. I wish I hadn't. We could have an orchestra.

My 15 year old daughter plays the alto sax in her school band.  Started in the 5th grade.  At first she couldn't decide which instrument she wanted to play but I noticed she kept going back to the saxophone and she said she liked the sound of it.  Because of the price, her father and I told her she needed to stick with it for at least 3 years.  We are pleasantly surprised that 5 years later, she still plays and still loves it and will continue all the way to her senior year and at first (until I read your post), I was contemplating selling it once she graduates but no....I'll keep it for her.

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Well after watching the latest episode 11x11 I realised that it  was the same episode last season that Leonard and Penny last shared a kiss that's 24 episodes without them kissing . That's the longest ever gap between them kissing in the entire show, also we've still not had a scene with them in bed together since 10x01 that's 35 episodes again the longest gap without a scene showing them in bed in the entire show run. We've haven't seen there bedroom since it got decorated in 10x07 which is 28 episodes again that's the longest gap without seeing that bedroom in the entire shows history. I really hope in the remaining episodes of the season that these three things get remedied .

Correction it's actually the second longest without them sharing a kiss the actual longest is between 4x13 and 5x14 25 episodes, they haven't shared a kiss since 10x18 ,  but 17 episodes it's still a long time, also it is the longest gap between kisses whilst in a relationship.

 

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On 14/12/2017 at 8:53 PM, legacy99 said:

I don't remember her ever commenting if she had sex with him

Given how nervous she was, when having sex with Sheldon for the first time, I'm thinking she didn't have sex with Faisal.

Also, given Sheldon's extreme Mysophobia, I think they'd have discussed the matter of previous sexual activity, before going to bed together.

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Given how nervous she was, when having sex with Sheldon for the first time, I'm thinking she didn't have sex with Faisal.
Also, given Sheldon's extreme Mysophobia, I think they'd have discussed the matter of previous sexual activity, before going to bed together.
I don't think she did either. Amy's
not the type. But I'm suprised sheldon didn't ask her to officially call off that engagement

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11 minutes ago, Zephon75 said:

Well after watching the latest episode 11x11 I realised that it  was the same episode last season that Leonard and Penny last shared a kiss that's 24 episodes without them kissing . That's the longest ever gap between them kissing in the entire show, also we've still not had a scene with them in bed together since 10x01 that's 35 episodes again the longest gap without a scene showing them in bed in the entire show run. We've haven't seen there bedroom since it got decorated in 10x07 which is 28 episodes again that's the longest gap without seeing that bedroom in the entire shows history. I really hope in the remaining episodes of the season that these three things get remedied .

Certainly agree with you.  Had not realized it was this long without them kissing.  Hopefully, this will be rectified in the second half of the season and maybe with a story arc about possibly buying a house or considering a baby.

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Kaley is engaged. Not that has anything to do with their lack of intimacy. But maybe a factor. I don't know. I Can't say I have even noticed their lack of kissing. But that is just me. I would love more pillow talk though. Maybe that could happen if they start thinking seriousley about having a baby. I see Penny giving birth in the series final though. 

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24 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Kaley is engaged. Not that has anything to do with their lack of intimacy. But maybe a factor. I don't know. I Can't say I have even noticed their lack of kissing. But that is just me. I would love more pillow talk though. Maybe that could happen if they start thinking seriousley about having a baby. I see Penny giving birth in the series final though. 

That is a possibility. On The Coby Show after Phylicia Ayers-Allen  Rashad married Ahmad Rashad Cliff and Claire did not kiss as much as they once did or not like they use to before and were not seen as being as lovely-dovey as often as before. 

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1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

Kaley is engaged. Not that has anything to do with their lack of intimacy. But maybe a factor. I don't know. I Can't say I have even noticed their lack of kissing. But that is just me. I would love more pillow talk though. Maybe that could happen if they start thinking seriousley about having a baby. I see Penny giving birth in the series final though. 

We had this discussion back in season 7, when she was engaged and married.  She's an actress, they do what is written and she is getting a lot of money to act the character, as written.    Back in season 7, while she was engaged and married, the amount of kissing was less, the characters were still kissing.  In the first half of season 8, they went though 8 or 9 episodes without kissing, but they kissed in the second have of the season, again when she was married.  

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On ‎12‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 4:01 PM, Stephen Hawking said:

I'm curious. What's the magic number, that turns a good husband into a bad husband?

There is no magic number, obviously, and you know that. I think that what the poster was trying to say is that it is unfair to judge a person by on act, and I tend to agree. All of their behavior has to be considered to form an opinion, and decide how to react. Obviously the nature of the infidelity is also a matter to be taken into consideration since not reacting fast enough to someone kissing you is not the same as sleeping with someone. In reality it all depends on the person who has been wronged. They are the only ones who can decide for themselves whether to forgive or not.

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2 hours ago, Carlos said:

There is no magic number, obviously, and you know that. I think that what the poster was trying to say is that it is unfair to judge a person by on act, and I tend to agree. All of their behavior has to be considered to form an opinion, and decide how to react. Obviously the nature of the infidelity is also a matter to be taken into consideration since not reacting fast enough to a someone kissing you is not the same as sleeping with someone. In reality it all depends on the person who has been wronged. They are the only ones who can decide for themselves whether to forgive or not.

There's more to being  a good spouse than providing for the home and looking after the people in it. After the basics are met, there's the relationship between the couple. That's what has to be sustained for the rest of one lifetime. What a person expects from a partner may not be what another would. Not everyone wants the same thing from his or her spouse. So long as the hypothetical man is being and doing what his wife wants, in her mind he's a good husband. If he likes being and doing just that, he's a good husband in his mind too. If the behaviour is reciprocated, then she's a good wife.

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On 12/13/2017 at 12:45 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

The problem with Amy is that she never been in a relationship (Romantically) before until she met Sheldon and then once they got serious she set the bar way too high considering it is Sheldon we are talking about. she also came under the influence of Penny and Bernadette. Amy did or does not know how real relationships work. The fact is Sheldon is never gonna be the Boyfriend or Husband Amy want him to be. She is stuck in this LHOTP fantasy world of Marriage. I dare say The Oleson had a more realistic Marriage then  the Ingall 

Sheldon never gonna be the Good Boyfriend or Husband Raj, Howard and Leonard are. Amy will definitely be one of those ''long-suffering wifes" 

 
On 12/13/2017 at 2:27 PM, Die Zimtzicke said:

Raj is not a good husband. Raj will probably never be a good husband. He is too self centered.

They could, as often has been pointed out, get a new bed or a new couch. I hate seeing them on those.

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To clarify some things. My post as seen above was in reply to a discussion on Wednesday about Amy and Sheldon relationship and on whether or not Sheldon was a Good Boyfriend. 

On 12/13/2017 at 2:31 PM, Die Zimtzicke said:

Does not surprise me at all. They may just be enjoying it for what it is and not deconstructing every ep.

I don't think so. I don't think that would make you a great husband. I think  he'd pester his wife to death so she wouldn't get any rest until she screamed. He is very all "about me" at times. All of them are, but he can be over the top. When he was trying to make people who didn't have dates feel better, what did he do? Rub it in when he got a date. Dating two women and expecting to be able to keep it in order was a boneheaded move. He pushed Lucy to be what he wanted her to be until he lost her, and he just did the same thing with Rucci. I can think of tons of examples where he didn't get other people's feelings. I know people will think of Sheldon and say he's worse, but with Sheldon, people have come to expect that, and when he IS nice it's monumental. Raj is just an ass sometimes when everyone is rooting so hard for his nice side to come out.

 

On 12/13/2017 at 3:09 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Well, I don't disagree there. he can be an a** sometimes but will be better husband than Sheldon 

 

On 12/13/2017 at 3:20 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Exactly. No women in my Family would put up with Sheldon s*hit.  They might tolerate Raj to a point 

Really at the moment I think Howard is probably (a toss up between him and Leonard)  the best Husband (or Boyfriend or Fiancee or whatever)  on the show right now  which was hard t imagine 8 Years ago 

 

 

On 12/13/2017 at 3:38 PM, Tonstar17 said:

Leonard & Howard are whipping boys to there other halfs. I would love for them to grow a pair. Raj and Sheldon are two peas in a pod. Leonard & Howard knows what they got and their insecurity kicks in a lot which is their weakness.

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To which Chiany poted referring to Leonard controversial  boat kiss so wasn't referred to by name we all know who he was talking about 

On 12/13/2017 at 9:32 PM, Chiany said:

No he will never be a good boyfriend, because he is the perfect boyfriend.

He took care of Amy when she was sick, assisted her in the bathroom and put her in bed.
Hell, he even set her clocks on the correct time.

And he never cheated.

I agree here but I was just using that as an example 

On 12/13/2017 at 9:38 PM, legacy99 said:

There really are a lot more important things that make you a good partner than just helping someone when their sick. Jmo but i would never put the words sheldon and perfect in the same sentence

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Then this person chimed in 

On 12/13/2017 at 9:52 PM, KripkeRules said:

Why do you mention cheating? But good point. LMAO.

 

Again agree. All I was saying was Leonard only kiss a Girl for like 5 Second while drunk at Sea. The Guy was having fun but made a mistake nonetheless But again not Cheating i all I was trying to say.  He should not be called a bad boyfriend (which did happen before he MArried Penny) for one little mistake like a Kis. The whole thing was a mes 

On 12/13/2017 at 10:04 PM, legacy99 said:

If your considering the north sea kiss cheating then i would have to assume sheldon cheated too in season 10

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On 12/13/2017 at 10:23 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Cheating on one partner doesn't necessarily make someone a bad  Husband/Boyfriend and vice versa. And if you are referring to Leonard he did not Cheat on Penny 

 

Then again this person below chimes in taking my word out of context 

On 12/13/2017 at 10:26 PM, KripkeRules said:

WOW, OMG, it's true you learn something new / insane everyday. 

Below I clearly state that Cheating is bad! All cheating Is bad but it doesn't always make a person a bad spouse. It really depends on who the wronged partner own opinion but a lot of people would say being cheated on one time would not make their SO a bad person or spouse/boyfriend or girlfriend. I don't think One little Affair should make a person a bad spouse for life if up to that point they were a good spouse.  Now if the affair is ongoing one for many years of if the spouse repeatedly cheats on their spouse again and again serial cheating) to me that is not a good spouse at all no matter what.  I was not defending cheating at all or any cheater as KripkeRule claimed 

On 12/13/2017 at 10:31 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

While Cheating is bad it does not mean that person is evil or is automatically a bad Partner for life.  It a personal flaw.

If a Man cheats on his Wife (or if a Women cheat on her husband)  once in 30 years that doe does not make him a bad Husband but he did make a very bad mistake and broke his vows. same with the Wife who cheats on a husband only once in their 30 Year Marriage. No one is perfect and we are all humans who make mistakes!

However, if a Man cheats on his wife  20 times over the course of their 30-year Marriage than yes that a bad husband! There no excuse for that kind of  serial cheating  

 

 

On 12/13/2017 at 10:44 PM, 3ku11 said:

I woulden't even consider what Leonard did cheating tbh in reterospect. He had a drunk, messy make out where he chipped his tooth. Did not sound like a pleasurable experience tbh. The show only made it up basically out of thin air. And created an imaginary tangent on the timeline to create unorganic drama imo. 

As for Penny being a long suffering wife. IF she was so suffering why is she still with Leonard. Why would she care enough to change her behaviour based on what Leonard said? That does not sound like suffering to me. Penny's career is pretty stagnent. Bernadette cannot even leave her bed atm LOL. I Think Lenny seem like the most happiest and stable couple on this show right now. Have to wait to see how they write Shamy as a married couple. But based on Howardette and Lenny. They clearly struggle. 

 

On 12/13/2017 at 10:48 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Agree. It not like Leonard went to bed with her or anything. It was just a kiss and he was drunk. I can see why Penny was mad that he kiss another girl and didn't tell her about it thought but I think Leonard probably should not have said anything  

 

 

On 12/13/2017 at 11:29 PM, Tensor said:

No, he just treats her like dirt on a continuing basis.  I'd much rather have my SO engage in a one time drunken kiss, than have her treat me terribly over and over again.

On 12/13/2017 at 11:39 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Agree here.

Below y comment was in response to KripkeRule reply to my last comment above which was deleted saying that I thought Cheating was okay anyway which not true at all and I had made the point clear in one of my post before that. He was clearly looking for an argument. I also said what Leonard did was not good regardless if it was cheating or not 

On 12/14/2017 at 1:00 AM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

 I never said that! Don’t put words in my mouth. Cheating is a big deal and is bad

what Leonard did was not good but was not Cheating

 

 

 

On 12/14/2017 at 1:39 AM, Tensor said:

Actually, I didn’t say it wasn’t cheating, nor did I say it was the writers fault.  In reaction to the comment about Sheldon being a Perfect Boyfriend, as he didn’t cheat.  I just pointed out that I would rather have a SO be involved in a drunken kiss, than have someone treat me bad on a continuing basis.   If you want to talk about how Penny treats Leonard , at times, I’ll be more than happy to discuss that with you, (although I mostly agree with you), but it has nothing to do a Sheldon/Leonard comparison, and indeed muddies the water.  Yes, I did say this season.  We can all go back to various seasons to find something.  Back in 9.01, Amy wasn’t happy with Sheldon, but that seems to have changed.  That’s why I asked about this season, Penny doesn’t seem to be unhappy this season, so you can’t use last season to prove a point about this season. 

As far as who can say what about who.  Say whatever you want about the show, the characters, or what you think about the work of the cast and staff, but be expected to be challenged, or refuted.   Just like you can challenge or refute, other posters comments.  The one big no no is don’t talk about other posters, or what you think they mean.  Our rules for posting can be found in the Site section.  

My comment below form Thursday afternoon after some said that Sheldon cheated when Ramona kiss him 

On 12/14/2017 at 12:17 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

So now Sheldon Cheated? I mean Really? I not fan if Sheldon by the way


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On 12/14/2017 at 12:20 PM, Chrismo said:

10.24

 

On 12/14/2017 at 4:38 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

That was not cheating. he initiated the Kiss and Sheldon pulled back. Sheldon did not sleep with her 

It depends on the person. For most once is forgivable, twice maybe but then after that... 

 

No, becue with Leonard he was on a boat and drunk and Sheldon did not initiate the kiss and pulled back quickly when she kissed him and left. Neither is cheating IMO Now if Leonard had been over and went to bed with the omen n the boat then yes would have been cheating. If Sheldon had started making out willing with Ramona than yes would have been cheating. I don't deny what Leonard did was wrong but it was not  cheating

On 12/14/2017 at 4:42 PM, legacy99 said:

Then i guess leonard didn't cheat either by your definition

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Here I aid it depends on the Person meaning the spouse or whoever they are dating or married to I also again say what he did was wrong but not being unfaithful but yes disloyal 

On 12/14/2017 at 4:46 PM, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

I said it depends on the person. And all Leonard did was kiss a woman while he was Drunk! That not cheating. It not like they started making out then slept together., While it wasn't good he was not being unfaithful 

 

22 hours ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

People are bringing up Leonard and Sheldon but the real two-timer is Raj. He cheated on Emily with that cocktail waitress. It is why Emily broke up with him.  He the only guy on the show who has actually cheated 

 

Several posts of mine and Kripke and others were deleted last night before KripkeRule made this comment where he claimed some sort of 'theory' (about my post) which I am not sure why because I did not once mention the word theory or that anything was a theory or even a theory of mine.  Not sure why he thought it was  some theory I was trying to make which was not true. 

20 hours ago, KripkeRules said:

OK, ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, I think, IMO, I don't agree with his theory about cheating, because it has no logic, just a poor excuse trying to defend the cheater.

IS THIS OKAY??????

He also claimed I was defending a cheater and cheating but that not true at all. I had already a few times said cheating was bad. I said that Sheldon and Leonard did not cheat IMO. I don't know how that defending a cheater becue everyone has different opinions on if that cheating or not 

20 hours ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

 I was not defending cheating at all.  You misunderstood my whole point and what the original post about  

Again he claimd some theory  

20 hours ago, KripkeRules said:

I want to say, you can delete the bullshit words, but you need to keep the opinion, I really think this place is becoming some one person's opinion alone. 

You can say Sheldon treats Amy like dirt, but I can't say that cheating theory is bullshit? IS treating her like dirt not snarky words? 

 

I even respond saying there no theory and that I never mention it. 

19 hours ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

There is no theory here anywhere! No one ever mentions a theory here.  You are the one who started this whole argument. We are all allowed to have our own opinion here. 

 

And yeah I didn't say anyone agreed with me or had to. An opinion is not a theory. We all have our opinion 

19 hours ago, KripkeRules said:

This is not your theory? Because besides you, I didn't see anyone else who were saying this.

 

Below: Don't know what the point of this reply here but I was saying that it questionable if a person who cheats jut one time is a bad spouse and wive vs a person who cheats 10, 20, 30 and more times or has a decade's long affair. I was just saying that as an example not as some 'magic number' for people to live by lol.  As I said last night there is no magic number. Everyone has their own opinion or thoughts on that. 

On 12/14/2017 at 2:01 PM, Stephen Hawking said:

I'm curious.

What's the magic number, that turns a good husband into a bad husband?

 

@Carlos Your last post, Yes that exactly what I was trying to say.  

 

@joyceraye You are right. There is a lot that makes a person a good spouse. Lots of things go into it. 

1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

There's more to being  a good spouse than providing for the home and looking after the people in it. After the basics are met, there's the relationship between the couple. That's what has to be sustained for the rest of one lifetime. What a person expects from a partner may not be what another would. Not everyone wants the same thing from his or her spouse. So long as the hypothetical man is being and doing what his wife wants, in her mind he's a good husband. If he likes being and doing just that, he's a good husband in his mind too. If the behaviour is reciprocated, then she's a good wife.

 

All  I was saying is that one little brief affair or messed up kiss make a person a bad partner for life. It is bad and cheating is about the worst thing you can do to a spouse but it does not always make them a bad spouse forever. It really depends on the situation and the person with them. everyone is gonna be different in their view or opinion and that fine. It really up to them to make that decision 

We all know someone who had cheated or heard of someone who has cheated (it could be someone in your family from 100 years ago) but at the end of the day despite that one bad mistake some of them were good spouse overall who made a very bad mistake. It not defneidng the cheater. I alo not denfding cheaitng as I already said. 

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We SAW the Shemona kiss but not the boat kiss, this was I believe a conscious decision by TPTB to make one ambiguous (Leonard) and one (Sheldon) clearly defined. 

I have allways considered that given leonards vague description what happend in Sheldons office is also what happened on the boat an uninitiated kiss which was quickly ended.

Neither are cheating. If anything penny went immediately defensive and in my opinion over reacted where as amy waited for the details before judging. 

I also believe this was intintional by TPTB to further the view of both guys that they wanted to convey to the audience at the time, Leonard bad, Sheldon good.

 

Edit: I also think that if Molero had still been in charge the boat kiss WOULD have been brought up in 11.01 to sheldons benefit and leonards detriment 

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6 hours ago, JE7 said:

We SAW the Shemona kiss but not the boat kiss, this was I believe a conscious decision by TPTB to make one ambiguous (Leonard) and one (Sheldon) clearly defined. 

I have allways considered that given leonards vague description what happend in Sheldons office is also what happened on the boat an uninitiated kiss which was quickly ended.

Neither are cheating. If anything penny went immediately defensive and in my opinion over reacted where as amy waited for the details before judging. 

I also believe this was intintional by TPTB to further the view of both guys that they wanted to convey to the audience at the time, Leonard bad, Sheldon good.

 

Edit: I also think that if Molero had still been in charge the boat kiss WOULD have been brought up in 11.01 to sheldons benefit and leonards detriment 

The big difference to me is in the minds of the two men. Leonard had a conscience about the kiss with Mandy.  Whether or not anyone else would take an incident like that seriously wasn't relevant and still isn't. Although Mandy herself hadn't given it another thought, Leonard spoke about it as if he was unburdening himself of something he'd done wrong and Penny reacted to the revelation as if it were a confession. It doesn't matter how anybody else regards it. Our opinion wouldn't make a difference to them.

Sheldon, on the other hand, apparently had no misgivings. Even if he asked himself if he was to blame in any way, such as wondering whether he'd led Ramona on, we'll never know.  According to what he said, all Ramona's kiss meant to him was confirmation of what we knew he'd been thinking about for years.  It doesn't  matter  that  his story of a sudden realisation  from nowhere   - that he wanted to kiss only Amy for the rest of his life and therefore he should propose  - doesn't make sense in the light of at least the previous  two years. We saw his response, which  was to leave the situation and get on a plane.  Amy's worries about whether Ramona could take him from her melted away. She didn't even ask for details. I can't believe she wouldn't have wanted to know more, but so far as we were shown she had the sense not to open that box. She didn't want to spoil what she'd been cooling her jets for. Sheldon put a positive spin on the conversation and kiss in his mind and used that.  Amy was ' magnanimous in victory' to Ramona.  Objectivity over who did or did not 'cheat'  with whom is of no consequence.

 

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14 hours ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Neither is cheating IMO Now if Leonard had been over and went to bed with the omen n the boat then yes would have been cheating. If Sheldon had started making out willing with Ramona than yes would have been cheating. I don't deny what Leonard did was wrong but it was not  cheating

I agree with this and I have always agreed with this, ever since the boat kiss came up. It was not cheating. And Ramona kissing Sheldon was not cheating.

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26 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I agree with this and I have always agreed with this, ever since the boat kiss came up. It was not cheating. And Ramona kissing Sheldon was not cheating.

Maybe the boat kiss (or was it kissing?) wasn't cheating, but keeping quiet about it for two years, wasn't very smart.

It made him look guilty.

That, plus Penny knowing he's made out with one girl, while involved with another, doesn't do him any favours.

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51 minutes ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Maybe the boat kiss (or was it kissing?) wasn't cheating, but keeping quiet about it for two years, wasn't very smart.

It made him look guilty.

That, plus Penny knowing he's made out with one girl, while involved with another, doesn't do him any favours.

The only reason Leonard "kept quiet" about it for two years was because the writers pulled it out of their collective arses at the last minute to add end-of-season drama.

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TBF Leonard kept no secret for two years. They just created an imaginary tangent on the timeline to create convoluted drama. But this has been said to death. As Season 4 finalie has. As the Sheldon Ramona kiss e.t.c. Well no doubt be. I still think the writers tried to make Leonard look bad. And the Season 10 finalie, they protected Sheldon. But that is just my perspective. I agree neither really cheated. You could argue Leonard has a history. But other then Alice the comic book chick. That was really countered with Priya sleeping with her ex. And I Did not blame Leonard. Alice was cute lol. And his relationship with Priya was over the moment she went back to India. Because tbh I Don't think Priya was ever serious about marrying Leonard. She seemed too concerned what her parents thought. 

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