[Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

[djsurrey]

1 minute ago, Chrismo said:

On a show like TBBT babies are. People like to compare Friends to TBBT but Friends was set up for the possibility of kids and cold fit into the show. On TBBT there basically throw away lines. As to wedding planning for Shamy it's done for ratings unlike Howdette's. That would constitute jumping the shark.

Fonzie jumping a shark was way outside of normal. There is a second baby on TBBT because the actor was pregnant. Wedding planning for an engaged couple is as normal as it can get on a sitcom.
Some people like to compare TBBT to friends but many people don't.

[djsurrey]

5 minutes ago, chucky said:

Then why were we cheated out of Lenny's and Howardette's wedding planning? Boring as it would have been. For your info, that's my opinion.

I was both surprised and and pleased we did not get a lot of wedding planning for Lenny. I think Tripper has asked we not speculate on why Lenny has been written a certain way. H/B are were not primary characters.

Edited March 3, 2018 by djsurrey

[Jonny]

18 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

On a show like TBBT babies are. People like to compare Friends to TBBT but Friends was set up for the possibility of kids and cold fit into the show. On TBBT there basically throw away lines. As to wedding planning for Shamy it's done for ratings unlike Howdette's. That would constitute jumping the shark.

Couple that has been together (with a break) for 6 seasons/more in actual years terms tying the knot isn't jumping the shark. That's pretty natural relationship progression if you ask me.

 

Edited March 3, 2018 by Jonny

[vonmar]

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[Chrismo]

2 hours ago, Jonny said:

Couple that has been together (with a break) for 6 seasons/more in actual years terms tying the knot isn't jumping the shark. That's pretty natural relationship progression if you ask me.

 

But I thought there relationship was unique. Now there just like any other couple?

Edited March 4, 2018 by Chrismo

[3ku11]

Shamy as individuals are pretty unique individuals. But I Don't see anything non conventional about their relationship. Ever since they had sex. But that is jmo. Lenny been together since season 3 broke up, got back together two years later. Got married three years later. Thats pretty natural progression too. 

[djsurrey]

1 hour ago, Chrismo said:

But I thought there relationship was unique. Now there just like any other couple?

Unique and yet still human (although that was debated early in the series). 

[Sah]

5 hours ago, serena_1995 said:

I think it is a good thing they are not completely conventional, though they  keep a balance and somethings need to be "normalized"  .  They are  unconventional , but my point was, they are  still more conventional now (empirically)  compared to when Amy was introduced. Also, I think the "scientific wedding planning"  has more potential for humor/plots than something a typical couple would do on a sitcom. So , on the contrary, it is actually less boring to me.  

Agree!

 

[veejay]

1 hour ago, April said:

Having more sex won't help shortening a pregnancy so either way it only will be a couple of kids in total.

Or, since Amy is a fictional character, the writers decide on a ludicrous number of, say, two pregnancies with octuplets and there you go: 16 kids in two years! lol

Or they go the surrogate route which, again, isn't influenced by the frequency of them having sex.

Bobblehead invasion.

   

Edited March 4, 2018 by veejay

[Jonny]

7 hours ago, Chrismo said:

But I thought there relationship was unique. Now there just like any other couple?

It is still unique, they are a couple of weirdos with a brain/intellect fetish lol. I say that with respect and admiration of their relationship because I love how they have that 'allure of the brain' thing going on.

But again I don't see how getting married makes them less unique, it's what people do as they become closer and they feel the time is right to make the ultimate commitment. I guess they could not get married and in a lot of moments it feels like they already are, but they are both into marriage and believe in the status of Marriage and see it as a progression of 'relationship status' (Friends ---> BF/GF ---> Fiance/Fiancee---> Husband and Wife) so why not?

Now if they get married and they suddenly turn into a stereotypical sitcom marriage then I will agree with you. I guess it is a possibility that you may see some shift or stories that indicate that, but I am kind of hopeful because of how quirky they are individually and together. Because with them you can do a weird or nerdy take on some husband and wife common stories or challenges that can be a fresh take on what has been before.

Edited March 4, 2018 by Jonny

[mirs1]

2 hours ago, Jonny said:

It is still unique, they are a couple of weirdos with a brain/intellect fetish lol. I say that with respect and admiration of their relationship because I love how they have that 'allure of the brain' thing going on.

But again I don't see how getting married makes them less unique, it's what people do as they become closer and they feel the time is right to make the ultimate commitment. I guess they could not get married and in a lot of moments it feels like they already are, but they are both into marriage and believe in the status of Marriage and see it as a progression of 'relationship status' (Friends ---> BF/GF ---> Fiance/Fiancee---> Husband and Wife) so why not?

Now if they get married and they suddenly turn into a stereotypical sitcom marriage then I will agree with you. I guess it is a possibility that you may see some shift or stories that indicate that, but I am kind of hopeful because of how quirky they are individually and together. Because with them you can do a weird or nerdy take on some husband and wife common stories or challenges that can be a fresh take on what has been before.

Uniqueness doesn't necessariIy mean doing unconventional things, it might aIso mean doing "conventionaI" things in an "unconventional" way, and that's preciseIy what Shamy have been doing in the Iast 7 seasons

Edited March 4, 2018 by mirs1

[Jonny]

I think the promo looks great and I am looking forward to this episode.

B99 did a similar story earlier this year and I loved it, hoping this one is just as good  

[April]

32 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Uniqueness doesn't necessariIy means doing unconventional things, it might aIso mean doing "conventionaI" things in an "unconventional" way, and that's preciseIy what Shamy have been doing in the Iast 7 seasons

This.

It's like arguing "Sheldon is a normal guy cause he eats oatmeal and nothing more outlandish!" But what makes him weird is that he has a designated oatmeal day and his favourite kind is "plain" with "no taste". LOL

[chucky]

15 hours ago, djsurrey said:

H/B are were not primary characters.

I beg to differ. Howard is one of the original 5 cast members and Bernadette was the 6th person added to the cast. They are both definitely primary characters.

11 hours ago, djsurrey said:

Unique and yet still human 

Amy is human, as she has grown out of her robotic being. Sheldon on the other is still "Shelbot". You can see flashes of his attempting to be human, but he is fighting the change constantly! (I know "Shelbot" was what Penny called his robot replacement at work.)

4 hours ago, April said:

This.

It's like arguing "Sheldon is a normal guy cause he eats oatmeal and nothing more outlandish!" But what makes him weird is that he has a designated oatmeal day and his favourite kind is "plain" with "no taste". LOL

What makes him weird is his complete eating schedule as to what to eat each day, be it Breakfast, lunch or dinner. Also his insane toilet schedule and his keeping track of the size, shape and consistency of his "stool" (poop)!

Edited March 4, 2018 by chucky

[joyceraye]

15 hours ago, djsurrey said:

  15 hours ago, chucky said:

Then why were we cheated out of Lenny's and Howardette's wedding planning?

When Leonard wanted to set a date, Penny said they had to put it off for up to two years depending on her brother's incarceration. Hence little or no preparation, then a rush job. He didn't get away with not having a stag party, even though it was all done post-event and went wrong.

The preparation for Howardette's wedding was lengthy enough, I'd say. We saw the stag party, heard about cakes and table-allocation, saw some presents and saw the women sending out the invitations and goodie-bags, not to mention dress shopping and the men's suit-hire. There was practically a whole episode about Amy's angst over her role in it. The marriage ceremony itself was done as an emergency,yes, but they did say the reception etc was only postponed.

All we've seen so far with Shamy is discussion, apart from the group dynamics over who was going to do what. I found the way the others felt about it surprisingly sweet. I'd expected an episode in which they'd all be trying to get out of being involved. I'm looking forward to Amy's hen party, with her and Penny drinking wine and Bernie insisting she can have Guinness. ( They were serving it on the post-natal ward last time I visited one.) 

If we're going to be swamped with guest stars I'm hoping for a double or triple episode, or an arc, rather than everything and everybody  crammed into eighteen minutes. If they could beam or stream the ceremony and reception to England and have Stephen Hawking on a big screen make one of the speeches I'd love that. I want Nathaniel Parker for Amy's father. How about Betty White or June Whitfield for her grandma and Tom Baker for her grandad ?

[Die Zimtzicke]

7 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Tom Baker for her grandad

I'd love Tom Baker but he doesn't fly much anymore. He used to go to all the Doctor Who cons and he's given them all up as far as I know.

[joyceraye]

9 hours ago, Carlos said:

I am.

I just thought of something: If Sheldon and Amy have sex once a year on Amy's birthday and some very special occasions how long would it take them to have even more than a handful of kids?

I think when they're married their sex life will be the same as anyone else's. Whatever he says about being a non-believer, he's still conscious of living with Amy out of wedlock. However, if they did decide to stay with the status quo ante  they could still give birth every September, so  a small quiverful is still technically possible. If Sheldon sits down with a calculator he'll see how many they can afford.

[chucky]

1 minute ago, joyceraye said:

I think when they're married their sex life will be the same as anyone else's. Whatever he says about being a non-believer, he's still conscious of living with Amy out of wedlock. However, if they did decide to stay with the status quo ante  they could still give birth every September, so  a small quiverful is still technically possible. If Sheldon sits down with a calculator he'll see how many they can afford.

Sheldon is ever the over eager planner and agreement writer. Wonder if he will have an offspring agreement.It's probably already been completed and waiting on the perfect time to spring it on poor, unsuspecting Amy.

[joyceraye]

10 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I'd love Tom Baker but he doesn't fly much anymore. He used to go to all the Doctor Who cons and he's given them all up as far as I know.

Yes, he's only done radio and audio episodes for a while, and Elisabeth Sladen's death knocked him for six. I'd forgotten that. Perhaps they could pretape his part with June Whitfield or Julie Walters as his doddery wife. The latter would be brilliant with her Mrs Overall posture and a few extra wrinkles.

Edited March 4, 2018 by joyceraye

[Swedish Chef]

25 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

When Leonard wanted to set a date, Penny said they had to put it off for up to two years depending on her brother's incarceration. Hence little or no preparation, then a rush job. He didn't get away with not having a stag party, even though it was all done post-event and went wrong.

The preparation for Howardette's wedding was lengthy enough, I'd say. We saw the stag party, heard about cakes and table-allocation, saw some presents and saw the women sending out the invitations and goodie-bags, not to mention dress shopping and the men's suit-hire. There was practically a whole episode about Amy's angst over her role in it. The marriage ceremony itself was done as an emergency,yes, but they did say the reception etc was only postponed.

All we've seen so far with Shamy is discussion, apart from the group dynamics over who was going to do what. I found the way the others felt about it surprisingly sweet. I'd expected an episode in which they'd all be trying to get out of being involved. I'm looking forward to Amy's hen party, with her and Penny drinking wine and Bernie insisting she can have Guinness. ( They were serving it on the post-natal ward last time I visited one.) 

If we're going to be swamped with guest stars I'm hoping for a double or triple episode, or an arc, rather than everything and everybody  crammed into eighteen minutes. If they could beam or stream the ceremony and reception to England and have Stephen Hawking on a big screen make one of the speeches I'd love that. I want Nathaniel Parker for Amy's father. How about Betty White or June Whitfield for her grandma and Tom Baker for her grandad ?

I think it would be difficult to book guest stars for several episodes, they have probably more on their schedule than just TBBT. 

Edited March 4, 2018 by Lagernisse

[Die Zimtzicke]

5 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Elisabeth Sladen's death knocked him for six

His tribute to Elisabeth made me tear up. I wish TBBT would do more with Doctor Who. Although they did have Sheldon mention them having a female doctor coming up. Which was a joke Tom Baker started when he left the role. He said in interviews that he wished the next Doctor, whoever he or she might be the best or something like that. I remember how hysterical everyone got when he said it. Even Peter Davidson thought it was a keen bit of play. Who knew how long it would actually take?

[legacy99]

For me i would hate that they would take 3 episodes for the shamy wedding

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[joyceraye]

7 minutes ago, Lagernisse said:

I think it would be difficult to book guest stars for several episodes, they have probably more on their schedule than just TBBT. 

Well-known young to middle-aged ones yes, it would be difficult because they are likely to be booked already. If they could get them they perhaps would have to be written so they weren't in all three episodes. If they had semi-retired ones for the grandparents it might be easier to get them. The fact that the episode(s) is/are not written yet bothers me as to the quality that would be available.

[Swedish Chef]

4 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Well-known young to middle-aged ones yes, it would be difficult because they are likely to be booked already. If they could get them they perhaps would have to be written so they weren't in all three episodes. If they had semi-retired ones for the grandparents it might be easier to get them. The fact that the episode(s) is/are not written yet bothers me as to the quality that would be available.

Wouldn't it be strange to have three episodes for a wedding and some of the wedding guests you only see in two episodes.