[Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

[Chrismo]

 

43 minutes ago, vonmar said:

This is a close knit group that has been working together for many years. I don't think that anyone "freaked out" about anything.  I think that they simply rolled with the punches and made adjustments.

Just like they did when Kaley shattered her leg.

 

There is  no way of knowing their a close knit group. As to freak out probably not. Was making a decision to have two straight pregnancies a bad idea. I think acknowledging that they can't have another baby story in season 12 kind of does. 'I don't think Holland is not going  to publicly throw anyone under the bus for that decision.

Edited April 16, 2018 by Chrismo

[Die Zimtzicke]

47 minutes ago, Kev0821 said:

If they recast Amy's mom, I think Valerie Harper or Rhea Perlman would be good choices.

Oh, God, no. I can't stand either of them.

[Kev0821]

It's fun to speculate... Could they try and pull a Beaches reunion? Maybe Bette Midler will appear.

[Mario D.]

2 hours ago, chucky said:

I totally agree. The wasted first pregnancy for Bernadette killed any earlier pregnancy arcs for Lenny. That and the writers inability to come up with a plausible reason for Bernadette's absence from the episodes for her actual pregnancy. The writers just freaked out when Melissa got pregnant for real.

So, so true.  As I have mentioned before the writers painted themselves into a corner by showing Melissa giving birth a second time even though it was a real pregnancy. I firmly believe that by doing that they took away any pregnancy arc for Lenny. There must have been many ways they could have gone but in their " brilliance" the writers thought this would be hilarious.  Not to me

[chucky]

9 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

So, so true.  As I have mentioned before the writers painted themselves into a corner by showing Melissa giving birth a second time even though it was a real pregnancy. I firmly believe that by doing that they took away any pregnancy arc for Lenny. There must have been many ways they could have gone but in their " brilliance" the writers thought this would be hilarious.  Not to me

They could have easily sent her on a work related project and have her skype Howard or another member of the gang every episode, But no, she had to be pregnant and placed on bed rest. That took a lot of thought and foresight. These are smart writers on the show. YES, I am down on the writers and have been for a while now.

Edited April 16, 2018 by chucky

[djsurrey]

3 hours ago, Kev0821 said:

It's fun to speculate... Could they try and pull a Beaches reunion? Maybe Bette Midler will appear.

My head would be blown.

[ajond]

7 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

My head would be blown.

What about actress that played Amy's mother when they Skyped. can't remember which season.

[djsurrey]

1 minute ago, ajond said:

What about actress that played Amy's mother when they Skyped. can't remember which season.

My head would stay intact. 

[chucky]

5 minutes ago, ajond said:

What about actress that played Amy's mother when they Skyped. can't remember which season.

I think it was late season 4 or early season 5.

[chucky]

Well, Happy Day before Taping Day. Speculations are amok about what is expected to ensue at the taping of Episode 11/23. Can't wait to find out about George Jr. Enquiring  minds want to know.

Edited April 16, 2018 by chucky

[joyceraye]

12 hours ago, chucky said:

Fear the writers. If they think it's funny, it will happen. I don't see him running away from Pasadena, but running to 4B or his old room in 4A is very much possible. Penny, Leonard, Amy, or all three may have to talk to him.

Just thinking out loud at the possibilities. 

I think wherever he stays the night before  the wedding he'll be missing Amy and run away to see her.

[April]

25 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

I think wherever he stays the night before  the wedding he'll be missing Amy and run away to see her.

If he even stays away. Apparently he's already seen her in her dress so they are not exactly following traditions.

[joyceraye]

8 hours ago, chucky said:

They could have easily sent her on a work related project and have her skype Howard or another member of the gang every episode, But no, she had to be pregnant and placed on bed rest. That took a lot of thought and foresight. These are smart writers on the show. YES, I am down on the writers and have been for a while now.

 

What's wrong with married people of a similar age  having babies at the same time ? In my first main job I was working in reception on my first day when three men from the same office popped in to say they were going out together to the registrar's to register births and wouldn't be back until after lunch. (One could only speculate where they'd be in the meantime.  ) Nobody thought it was funny or out of  the ordinary. I don't get why we can't have another pregnancy storyline in TBBT. Why would anybody mind ? 

Adopting stray child-geniuses having a hard time in the care system might be more interesting but would take up a lot of air time.

[chucky]

3 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

 

What's wrong with married people of a similar age  having babies at the same time ? In my first main job I was working in reception on my first day when three men from the same office popped in to say they were going out together to the registrar's to register births and wouldn't be back until after lunch. (One could only speculate where they'd be in the meantime.  ) Nobody thought it was funny or out of  the ordinary. I don't get why we can't have another pregnancy storyline in TBBT. Why would anybody mind ? 

Adopting stray child-geniuses having a hard time in the care system might be more interesting but would take up a lot of air time.

That's a good point. I'm saying if they follow their normal M.O., then they won't get pregnant for 2 or 3 years. But, seeing that the show may have only have one year left, all bets are off. Plus throw in Amy's age, who knows. Maybe next year both Amy and Penny get pregnant. That would be a trip, Lenny finally having those smart and beautiful kids and Shamy having smart and interesting kids.

[Jonny]

50 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

 

What's wrong with married people of a similar age  having babies at the same time ? In my first main job I was working in reception on my first day when three men from the same office popped in to say they were going out together to the registrar's to register births and wouldn't be back until after lunch. (One could only speculate where they'd be in the meantime.  ) Nobody thought it was funny or out of  the ordinary. I don't get why we can't have another pregnancy storyline in TBBT. Why would anybody mind ? 

Adopting stray child-geniuses having a hard time in the care system might be more interesting but would take up a lot of air time.

I'm torn over this because in real life yes it would happen, they are all married couples (well about to be) and some of them are heading towards their late 30's the age when people do think about having children.

But I think they are stretching the limits on what they can do storyline wise considering it's a sitcom and the fact the children are invisible so that already rules out a lot of potential stories they can tell. I can only give my view in that I loved the Halley pregnancy storyline, it felt fresh and Simon and Melissa were great as prospective parents. I don't think the quality of writing was anywhere near as good when the baby actually arrived though. The second pregnancy storyline just wasn't as well written or crafted either, but there were external factors obviously out of their control involved in that.

If they wanted to do another baby storyline then fine, but I can't see myself getting too invested into it.

Edited April 16, 2018 by Jonny

[chucky]

5 minutes ago, chucky said:

 I don't get why we can't have another pregnancy storyline in TBBT. Why would anybody mind ? 

From what I understand TPTB are a bit hesitant to have another pregnancy so soon. Maybe middle next year. Who knows what goes thru the mind of Mr Holland, only the shadow knows.

3 minutes ago, Jonny said:

The second pregnancy storyline just wasn't as well written or crafted either.

If they wanted to do another baby storyline then fine, but I can't see myself getting invested into it.

Totally agree, but, I would like to start those smart and beautiful babies.

[joyceraye]

5 minutes ago, chucky said:

That's a good point. I'm saying if they follow their normal M.O., then they won't get pregnant for 2 or 3 years. But, seeing that the show may have only have one year left, all bets are off. Plus throw in Amy's age, who knows. Maybe next year both Amy and Penny get pregnant. That would be a trip, Lenny finally having those smart and beautiful kids and Shamy having smart and interesting kids.

I can foresee an episode in which Sheldon makes some rude remark about someone less bright than he thinks he is and Amy starts to worry if Sheldon would be disdainful of a future child who wasn't exceptionally gifted. 

[chucky]

6 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

I can foresee an episode in which Sheldon makes some rude remark about someone less bright than he thinks he is and Amy starts to worry if Sheldon would be disdainful of a future child who wasn't exceptionally gifted. 

Too bad TPTB and writers wasted so much time, Lenny could have been married in season 7 and Shamy on Season 8. That would given them adequate time fora pregnancy for Lenny and Shamy, seeing as Bernadette was dead set against having kids. Oh well, that's just speculation on my part.

I, too can see Amy worrying about Sheldon's attitude if his child turned out like Missy and George Jr, "dumber than a box of rocks".

I'm wondering what Sheldon's reaction would to his child having an I.Q. of 125 and Leonard and Penny's child with an I.Q. of say 170. That would be interesting to see. The other way around wouldn't be as interesting as that is what Sheldon expects to happen. 

Edited April 16, 2018 by chucky

[bfm]

1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

 

What's wrong with married people of a similar age  having babies at the same time ? In my first main job I was working in reception on my first day when three men from the same office popped in to say they were going out together to the registrar's to register births and wouldn't be back until after lunch. (One could only speculate where they'd be in the meantime.  ) Nobody thought it was funny or out of  the ordinary. I don't get why we can't have another pregnancy storyline in TBBT. Why would anybody mind ? 

Adopting stray child-geniuses having a hard time in the care system might be more interesting but would take up a lot of air time.

 

46 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I'm torn over this because in real life yes it would happen, they are all married couples (well about to be) and some of them are heading towards their late 30's the age when people do think about having children.

But I think they are stretching the limits on what they can do storyline wise considering it's a sitcom and the fact the children are invisible so that already rules out a lot of potential stories they can tell. I can only give my view in that I loved the Halley pregnancy storyline, it felt fresh and Simon and Melissa were great as prospective parents. I don't think the quality of writing was anywhere near as good when the baby actually arrived though. The second pregnancy storyline just wasn't as well written or crafted either, but there were external factors obviously out of their control involved in that.

If they wanted to do another baby storyline then fine, but I can't see myself getting too invested into it.

I am actually bothered by Lenny not having kids yet, because it just seems so unrealistic to me. I would understand if they had something major their preoccupied with right now or if they were not ready, but it really doesn't feel like it.  It just feels like they live in a cartoon this way. Penny is probably the youngest in the group but she will be 33 next season, women's fertility drops around 35. If they want more than one kids they should get started or talk about freezing eggs. The excuses the writers keep giving feel just like that - excuses, made due to production considerations. The whole thing hinders my suspension of disbelief.

Edited April 16, 2018 by bfm

[MsGreentea]

I wish they would do a Penny pregnancy: I think real life will force some decisions.  if they go a thirteenth season they almost for sure will be dealing with a real Kaley pregnancy (and maybe even in the 12th.  And another Melissa pregnancy is likely.  

[chucky]

34 minutes ago, MsGreentea said:

I wish they would do a Penny pregnancy: I think real life will force some decisions.  if they go a thirteenth season they almost for sure will be dealing with a real Kaley pregnancy (and maybe even in the 12th.  And another Melissa pregnancy is likely.  

A Penny and or Amy pregnancy would be acceptable. I'm done with Bernadette having another one. As someone else wrote, the first pregnancy was well thought out and written. The second one, not so much. I'm over Bernadette bitching, moaning about being pregnant. Time for some new players in the pregnancy game.

[MsGreentea]

21 minutes ago, chucky said:

A Penny and or Amy pregnancy would be acceptable. I'm done with Bernadette having another one. As someone else wrote, the first pregnancy was well thought out and written. The second one, not so much. I'm over Bernadette bitching, moaning about being pregnant. Time for some new players in the pregnancy game.

Well I am not looking forward to a Bernadette pregnancy either but they  may need to build some kind of story around another Melissa pregnancy.  

[chucky]

Just now, MsGreentea said:

Well I am not looking forward to a Bernadette pregnancy either but they  may need to build some kind of story around another Melissa pregnancy.  

Send her off on a work place project and let her skype each episode.

[Sah]

No more babies please. Even the cast isn't interested in this idea. I for one have zero interest in more pregnancy plots. The stories have been done to death. I don't care to have anymore stories about clothes not fitting, swollen feet, baby names, poopy diaper jokes, waiting at the hospital. One was good. Two was overkill. More then that is a totally different show. The first worked as a homage to Howards mom as you never have to see her. I say they can make a pregnancy announcement the very last episode of the show. I do not need to see everyones kids to be satisfied. Perhaps a reunion show years from now.

Edited April 16, 2018 by Sah

[chucky]

11 minutes ago, Sah said:

No more babies please. Even the cast isn't interested in this idea. I for one have zero interest in more pregnancy plots. The stories have been done to death. I don't care to have anymore stories about clothes not fitting, swollen feet, baby names, poopy diaper jokes, waiting at the hospital. One was good. Two was overkill. More then that is a totally different show. The first worked as a homage to Howards mom as you never have to see her. I say they can make a pregnancy announcement the very last episode of the show. I do not need to see everyones kids to be satisfied. Perhaps a reunion show years from now.

I can easily agree to this.