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2 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I've always associated that practice if there is some religious element to it, for example either the ceremony is a religious one or conducted in a place of worship say like a church.

Of course in other venues and with a particular couple they made decide to still do it, but some of the weddings I have been to that aren't in those aforementioned places quite often you get none of that.

The Athenaeum room looks more like a church than some churches I know. :) Very smart, with  wooden lectern for the officiant and everything. I wonder if they had music and if so, whether it was 'The Way You Look Tonight' ?

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9 minutes ago, GivesAWhit said:

Hahaha, oh lord, it sounds like several people powered through the big night (and/or day). It will be the zombie apocalypse at various homes, schools and places of work today!

The world is a safe place what is Tbbt fans concerned because we are multitask  people, lol! So the lack of sleep is not a big deal as our show is still on and rocking on! :icon_cheesygrin:

 

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13 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Well, maybe her father got up from his seat to accompany Amy when she was ready to go. As far as I understood, Amy was getting ready in a room in the same facility the wedding took place, not at her apartment, so her father was going to meet her there. Probably he sat down because Shamy were so late he was tired to wait for them, ahah! Or...Shamy were so late at their wedding that they entered the room together even if that wasn't the original plan.

Good points. They make sense. If he wasn't going to give her away there'd have been no point in creating him last year.

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6 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

The Athenaeum room looks more like a church than some churches I know. :) Very smart, with  wooden lectern for the officiant and everything. I wonder if they had music and if so, whether it was 'The Way You Look Tonight' ?

Doesn't look like at all like a church to me (wasn't advocating Shamy get married in a church either btw). It sounds rushed because they were distracted from their big day by their 'beautiful equation', I suspect if music was planned it probably wasn't played or any other parts of the actual bride and groom entrance.

Though we will learn more about the actual ceremony either if we are lucky enough for more things to come out from the kind and generous people who went (again thanks for everything we have received it is always appreciated!) or when the episode actually airs in just over a couple of weeks.

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1 minute ago, spidergirl said:

The world is a safe place what is Tbbt fans concerned because we are multitask  people, lol! So the lack of sleep is not a big deal as our show is still on and rocking on! :icon_cheesygrin:

 

Well I for one had a good sleep, so if anyone needs a clear head, I can rent mine out.  $$$ >>ka-ching<<

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Just now, joyceraye said:

Good points. They make sense. If he wasn't going to give her away there'd have been no point in creating him last year.

Often the father escorts his daughter up the aisle, kisses her, shakes the groom's hand and joins his wife in the congregation. Later the minister might ask "Who gives this woman to be wed?" and the father will stand up and say "Her mother and I." At most weddings.

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9 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Good points. They make sense. If he wasn't going to give her away there'd have been no point in creating him last year.

Some women prefer not to have the "giving the bride away" feature because it is symbolic of the time when women were considered property, first of their fathers, then of their husbands.

As chattel, they served to further the interests of their families by being married off to a man who could enhance the family's wealth and status.

Happily, it is now considered by many to simply be a sign of bidding farewell to the role of daughter only and embracing that of partner.

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6 minutes ago, GivesAWhit said:

Well I for one had a good sleep, so if anyone needs a clear head, I can rent mine out.  $$$ >>ka-ching<<

Thanks but I for one is used to not sleep much. My head works nicely, hehe! Former student/worker habits die hard! :icon_cheesygrin:

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1 minute ago, spidergirl said:

Thanks but I for one is used to not sleep much. My head works nicely, hehe! Former student/worker habits die hard! :icon_cheesygrin:

That's the spirit, spidergirl! Clap on a pair of sunnies and soldier on! :sungum:

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29 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I've always associated that practice if there is some religious element to it, for example either the ceremony is a religious one or conducted in a place of worship say like a church.

Of course in other venues and with a particular couple they may decide to still do it, but some of the weddings I have been to that aren't in those aforementioned places quite often you get none of that.

I personally escorted both my daughters down the aisle. Neither was held in a church or a religious area. Both were in back yards decorated with beautiful flowers. Me walking them is what they personally chose. I guess it could have gone either way and been alright with my wife and I.

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4 minutes ago, chucky said:

I personally escorted both my daughters down the aisle. Neither was held in a church or a religious area. Both were in back yards decorated with beautiful flowers. Me walking them is what they personally chose. I guess it could have gone either way and been alright with my wife and I.

Yeah like I said it does happen in other places, but if you are getting married in a place of worship it's pretty much standard practice or convention for that sort of thing. It's down to each couple and what they want at the end of the day.

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RAj is not my favorite but I surely don’t see him as unredemable (or even requiring redemption).  To me Howard is still creepy and he has a marriage of sorts.  Probably the most realistic thing is that everyone is not going to find love within a given timeframe (even 11 years).  Of course if the story followed real life, a mid/late  30s Indian guy who had not married (even by matchmaking here) would go home and come back with a wife that he barely knows.

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2 minutes ago, GivesAWhit said:

Some women prefer not to have the "giving the bride away" feature because it is symbolic of the time when women were considered property, first of their fathers, then of their husbands.

As chattel, they served to further the interests of their families by being married off to a man who could enhance the family's wealth and status.

Happily, it is now considered by many to simply be a sign of bidding farewell to the role of daughter only and embracing that of partner.

When Harriet Vane married Lord Peter Wimsey she had one of the dons from her old (women's ) college to give her away. It doesn't have to be a man, not even a relative. In the Church of England and some other denominations, the giver-away doesn't have to speak: he/she just hands her over by way of answer to the question and holds her flowers unless the bridesmaid takes them. (Camilla's father messed that up.) However, many do choose to say 'I do'. There's no legal rule that anyone has to give her away, it's just considered a nice thing to do, like having a best man. The person feels it's an honour to be asked to do it if her father can't/won't/ is dead/unwanted.

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7 minutes ago, chucky said:

I personally escorted both my daughters down the aisle. Neither was held in a church or a religious area. Both were in back yards decorated with beautiful flowers. Me walking them is what they personally chose. I guess it could have gone either way and been alright with my wife and I.

I was escorted down the aisle by both my parents (in a church).  My daughter did the same thing (also in a church).  I don’t remember the exact wording but we did not “give her away”.  She could have easily chosen to walk down by herself or go with her dad only.  

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5 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Yeah like I said it does happen in other places, but if you are getting married in a place of worship it's pretty much standard practice or convention for that sort of thing. It's down to each couple and what they want at the end of the day.

Yes ! We were married in a hotel. 

I chose my Mum to give me away as my Dad left us when I was 8 and re married, we invited him to our wedding but in my eyes my Mum brought me up so I wanted her to give me away :) 

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Just now, MsGreentea said:

I was escorted down the aisle by both my parents (in a church).  My daughter did the same thing (also in a church).  I don’t remember the exact wording but we did not “give her away”.  She could have easily chosen to walk down by herself or go with her dad only.  

Yeah, it always comes down to the individual choices. :icon_wink:

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18 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

When Harriet Vane married Lord Peter Wimsey she had one of the dons from her old (women's ) college to give her away. It doesn't have to be a man, not even a relative. In the Church of England and some other denominations, the giver-away doesn't have to speak: he/she just hands her over by way of answer to the question and holds her flowers unless the bridesmaid takes them. (Camilla's father messed that up.) However, many do choose to say 'I do'. There's no legal rule that anyone has to give her away, it's just considered a nice thing to do, like having a best man. The person feels it's an honour to be asked to do it if her father can't/won't/ is dead/unwanted.

AAAHHHH! >flailing excitedly<< The stubbornly modern and independent Harriet, Peter's dogged devotion and utterly appropriate proposal in Latin, the incomparable and indispensable Bunter, the dons, the punting excursion...Oh my dear girl, you have cited one of my favourite romances in all of literature. "Placetne, magistra?" "Placet." Smooth Wimsey. Very smooth. I myself went with Mozart.

Not only that, but there is a tie-in (no pun intended) with the matter of Sheldon's imperfect bow tie.

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Lord Peter Wimsey: This bowtie is a mess. 
Bunter: Yes, too perfect. Quite like a made-up affair. 
[Wimsey pulls off the tie and begins to re-tie it
 
[Wimsey finishes re-tying
Lord Peter Wimsey: Bunter, how's that? 
Bunter: Perfect. That is to say, slightly flawed. The mark of a true gentleman

 

Oh blast. This is like my Coraline opera post, isn't it? Total blather except to me. >>retiring to the naughty corner<<
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Appreciated all the information from the taping report. Put a lot of effort into letting know what happened. I personally knowing beforehand that the wedding was going to happen wasn't concerned  about the "phony drama" that it wasn't.  A little disappointed the wedding wasn't themed to peak my interest. And I'm not particularily a Star Wars fan. Though I guess the trivia did pay homage. Quite interested in seeing Missy ( okay maybe it's a guy thing). Happiest over the win for Stuart in regards to Denise but not sure what that's going to lead to. I'm not sure how they are going to fit this all into a 20 minute episode. Being at the taping may be better than seeing the episode. My question still is what's the point of next season? There is nothing in this episode, as good as it may be, that gives any sort of excitement for next season.

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3 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

Appreciated all the information from the taping report. Put a lot of effort into letting know what happened. I personally knowing beforehand that the wedding was going to happen wasn't concerned  about the "phony drama" that it wasn't.  A little disappointed the wedding wasn't themed to peak my interest. And I'm not particularily a Star Wars fan. Though I guess the trivia did pay homage. Quite interested in seeing Missy ( okay maybe it's a guy thing). Happiest over the win for Stuart in regards to Denise but not sure what that's going to lead to. I'm not sure how they are going to fit this all into a 20 minute episode. Being at the taping may be better than seeing the episode. My question still is what's the point of next season? There is nothing in this episode, as good as it may be, that gives any sort of excitement for next season.

I have to agree. This episode, which sounds like it will be a good one, does nothing to lead to season 12. Oh well, hopefully they (writers) will tie up some loose ends from previous years and episodes.

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Just now, chucky said:

I have to agree. This episode, which sounds like it will be a good one, does nothing to lead to season 12. Oh well, hopefully they (writers) will tie up some loose ends from previous years and episodes.

Since they are not especially good at writing a happily married couple, I think a season of slice-of-life and tying up loose ends episodes could be a satisfying way to end the run.

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I don’t think anyone is very good at writing a happily married couple for comedy.  Either they have to bitch incessantly  to make it humorous, one has to be spectacularly stupid(Lucy), or the humor has to come from challenges like being pregnant or having annoying friends.

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2 minutes ago, MsGreentea said:

I don’t think anyone is very good at writing a happily married couple for comedy.  Either they have to bitch incessantly  to make it humorous, one has to be spectacularly stupid(Lucy), or the humor has to come from challenges like being pregnant or having annoying friends.

This is true. If most real life marriages were anything like those in sitcoms I've seen, the divorce rate would be astronomical.

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The thing is, considering TBBT's track record about "the cliffhangers of the season finales", I for one am VERY happy that this episode has NO cliffhangers. 

I don't need any "excitements", as long as the show still has these characters, I'm gonna keep watching.  

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