[Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

[hokie3457]

1 minute ago, chucky said:

Don't forget spending their wedding night in separate apartments.

Here's what we Lennys got.  1. A confession in 8.24 as they were driving toward the happiest day of their lives;    2. An argument and being apart soon after the ceremony

That's what I meant here.....

[chucky]

1 minute ago, Swedish Chef said:

When you compare the two couples and their weddings, it's pretty clear which couple the writers prioritize.

Don't forget Howard and Bernadette's wedding where Sheldon tried to make that about him as well. Trying to give his speech in Klingon when he was told by Bernadette "No Klingon".

[Die Zimtzicke]

2 hours ago, legacy99 said:

I guess tptb didn't think they had to put to much effort in the lenny wedding

Are you just figuring that out now?

 

2 hours ago, Chrismo said:

Exclusive? LOL

Yeah, right. This wedding is everywhere.

[veejay]

I can imagine, at the end of the last performance of Season 11 I'll refuse to take Howard's suggestion seriously.

[legacy99]

I never expected them to come out and say one couple was more important than the rest and that their fams were more important

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[chucky]

Just now, hokie3457 said:

Here's what we Lennys got.  1. A confession in 8.24 as they were driving toward the happiest day of their lives;    2. An argument and being apart soon after the ceremony

That's what I meant here.....

Point taken. Touche'. Touche' is my new favorite word these days.

[Die Zimtzicke]

2 hours ago, chucky said:

Well actually, this is not a highly anticipated moment for me. Both Lenny weddings were highly anticipated to me and what did I get? A sorry inconsiderate, jerk ruining both ceremonies for me. 

The showrunners are not Lenny fans and never really have been. Which is why I am not hopeful for some of the things Lenny fans seem to expect.

[chucky]

1 minute ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

The showrunners are not Lenny fans and never really have been. Which is why I am not hopeful for some of the things Lenny fans seem to expect.

Since it's become the Sheldon Cooper/Shamy show. we don't expect much anymore.

[Die Zimtzicke]

36 minutes ago, Sah said:

As soon as he told Penny about the kiss I checked out of the wedding and was surprised that Penny went through with it. I would have held off getting married at that time. To me that killed the wedding. Penny wasn't even happy during the episode.

I totally agree. Who has a huge problem on the way to their wedding and goes through with it? It didn't make sense to me.

[Swedish Chef]

1 minute ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I totally agree. Who has a huge problem on the way to their wedding and goes through with it? It didn't make sense to me.

The writers wanted it that way, after all it is just Lenny getting married.

[Die Zimtzicke]

2 minutes ago, chucky said:

Since it's become the Sheldon Cooper/Shamy show. we don't expect much anymore.

it always was the Sheldon show as I saw it. It's always been about the other characters reacting to Sheldon. Or him reacting to them. It's not like this is anything new. So i never I know why this surprises anyone. Fans can say over and over that it was Lenny from the start, and maybe it was for them, but I've never seen any evidence of that from the showrunners.

[legacy99]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

it always was the Sheldon show as I saw it. It's always been about the other characters reacting to Sheldon. Or him reacting to them. It's not like this is anything new. So i never I know why this surprises anyone. Fans can say over and over that it was Lenny from the start, and maybe it was for them, but I've never seen any evidence of that from the showrunners.

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[chucky]

1 minute ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I totally agree. Who has a huge problem on the way to their wedding and goes through with it? It didn't make sense to me.

Penny loves Leonard and even though upset she still wanted to get married. As Mario D pointed out, she was OK until learning that Leonard worked with her and saw her everyday. That's when she got mad.

[veejay]

4 minutes ago, Swedish Chef said:

The writers wanted it that way, after all it is just Lenny getting married.

[chucky]

3 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

it always was the Sheldon show as I saw it. It's always been about the other characters reacting to Sheldon. Or him reacting to them. It's not like this is anything new. So i never I know why this surprises anyone. Fans can say over and over that it was Lenny from the start, and maybe it was for them, but I've never seen any evidence of that from the showrunners.

It started being the Sheldon Cooper show in Season 7.

[Chrismo]

3 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

it always was the Sheldon show as I saw it. It's always been about the other characters reacting to Sheldon. Or him reacting to them. It's not like this is anything new. So i never I know why this surprises anyone. Fans can say over and over that it was Lenny from the start, and maybe it was for them, but I've never seen any evidence of that from the showrunners.

I wouldn't say it was a Sheldon show at the beginning or a Lenny show. I think the story at the beginning was from Leonard's perspective.

[chucky]

3 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I wouldn't say it was a Sheldon show at the beginning or a Lenny show. I think the story at the beginning was from Leonard's perspective.

I think that season 1 - 6, even though Sheldon made his presence known, he wasn't in 60% or more in each of the episode. That pretty much changed in Season 7

[Mario D.]

14 minutes ago, chucky said:

Penny loves Leonard and even though upset she still wanted to get married. As Mario D pointed out, she was OK until learning that Leonard worked with her and saw her everyday. That's when she got mad.

EXACTLY!!

[chucky]

29 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Are you just figuring that out now?

We've known that since season 8, when there was no planning of the wedding and with the needling of "The Sheldon Cooper" pushing them to elope. Then coming up with that last minute kiss to screw up any kind of happiness they could get in getting married,

Edited May 8, 2018 by chucky

[Chrismo]

13 minutes ago, chucky said:

I think that season 1 - 6, even though Sheldon made his presence known, he wasn't in 60% or more in each of the episode. That pretty much changed in Season 7

I don't the exact season but I do know in season 4 when Leonard was with Priya and the group started going to Raj Amy told Sheldon the group revolved around Leonard.

[chucky]

14 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

I don't the exact season but I do know in season 4 when Leonard was with Priya and the group started going to Raj Amy told Sheldon the group revolved around Leonard.

I think that season 1 & 2 it was even. Seasons 3 & 4 it was more Leonard/Lenny. That was due to in  season 3, it was about Lenny and season 4 is was about Leonard. Season 5 & 6 it was about Lenny. Season 7 and on it's been all about Sheldon and or Shamy. 

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[3ku11]

1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

it always was the Sheldon show as I saw it. It's always been about the other characters reacting to Sheldon. Or him reacting to them. It's not like this is anything new. So i never I know why this surprises anyone. Fans can say over and over that it was Lenny from the start, and maybe it was for them, but I've never seen any evidence of that from the showrunners.

 

I think you need to rewatch even the first three seasons. While Sheldon was the breakout star. Most of the major story archs the first twos,seasons was dominated by Lenny. As was the first two,season finalie. No ones saying the show revolved around Lenny Fromm the start. But to,say theirs no evidence Lenny was not a central,focus from the pilot. Sorry I disagree. They were a major focal point. They've been one of the major themes of the sseries wrist since the pilot.

I am presuming this topic arose again from Lennys wedding. While we can argue they should of dealt with it with more detail and care, obviously. Or why did Penny go through with it e.t.c. Why not? By the second episode of s10. She had all of the information. But she is clearly not perfect herself. Leonard loves her despite all her flaws. Vice Versa for Leonard. Marriage is all about compromise. And that's what they both did. 

As for Sheldon. Look he could be marrying a rock. And the show would make it out as the biggest milestone ever lol. It was always going to be like that. 

Edited May 8, 2018 by 3ku11

[chucky]

27 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

As for Sheldon. Look he couldn't be marrying a rock. And the show would make it out as the biggest milestone ever lol.

That is by far the funniest, most truest line ever written.

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[Chrismo]

59 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

 

I think you need to rewatch even the first three seasons. While Sheldon was the breakout star. Most of the major story archs the first twos,seasons was dominated by Lenny. As was the first two,season finalie. No ones saying the show revolved around Lenny Fromm the start. But to,say theirs no evidence Lenny was not a central,focus from the pilot. Sorry I disagree. They were a major focal point. They've been one of the major themes of the sseries wrist since the pilot.

I am presuming this topic arose again from Lennys wedding. While we can argue they should of dealt with it with more detail and care, obviously. Or why did Penny go through with it e.t.c. Why not? By the second episode of s10. She had all of the information. But she is clearly not perfect herself. Leonard loves her despite all her flaws. Vice Versa for Leonard. Marriage is all about compromise. And that's what they both did. 

As for Sheldon. Look he could be marrying a rock. And the show would make it out as the biggest milestone ever lol. It was always going to be like that. 

The season 1 finale wasn’t about Sheldon learning A new language or season 2 finale wasn’t about the North Pole. They were B plots to Lenny A plots.

As to your rock comment proof of that is in the wedding dress.

[Sah]

2 hours ago, Chrismo said:

I wouldn't say it was a Sheldon show at the beginning or a Lenny show. I think the story at the beginning was from Leonard's perspective.

Disagree. It is from Leonard, Sheldon, Penny, Amy, Howard, Bernie and  Raj POV.

thescriptlab.com/features/main/7575-screenwriting-101-comedic-point-view/

It is how each character views what is going on. 

Young Sheldon uses a narrater so that is specific to his POV. How he percieves it through his characters eyes.

Edited May 8, 2018 by Sah