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Thank you so much, @NotWonderland, for writing it all down. Sounds like a nice episode. 

I look forward to the Amy scene. Love me some weird sassy Amy! From your report sounds hilarious and I'm sure it'll be on the screen as well. I've always loved the scenes with Amy and Leonard, so I wish they would explore their friendship even more, without making it too weird.

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Is it basically inferred that Sheldon has now lost his license? So he spent presumably loads of time getting over his anxieties, spending hours learning to drive and then pass his test and it's now gone?

Kind of disappointing if the whole thing was just a setup gag in Season 10 which has now been finally used.

I kind of would have liked to see him actually start driving, would have been a nice character progression for his character and the relationships with both his future wife and his friends might have also benefited from that.

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1 minute ago, Jonny said:

Is it basically inferred that Sheldon has now lost his license? So he spent presumably loads of time getting over his anxieties, spending hours learning to drive and then pass his test and it's now gone?

Kind of disappointing if the whole thing was just a setup gag in Season 10 which has now been finally used.

I kind of would have liked to see him actually start driving, would have been a nice character progression for his character and the relationships with both his future wife and his friends might have also benefited from that.

I don't think he lost his license, he gave it willingly to the police-man, because he actually can't drive and\or he realized it's not his thing. You don't loose your driver's license for speeding. Well, at least you don't loose it permanently for speeding, especially if it's the first time you get a fine for it...I don't think we will see him drive regularly on the show, it was just a plot device to show that Howard is good in "fathering" a boy, in some sense. Nonetheless, it is canon he actually asked Howard to make him drive, so there's hope he can do it again in the future.

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6 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Is it basically inferred that Sheldon has now lost his license? So he spent presumably loads of time getting over his anxieties, spending hours learning to drive and then pass his test and it's now gone?

Kind of disappointing if the whole thing was just a setup gag in Season 10 which has now been finally used.

I kind of would have liked to see him actually start driving, would have been a nice character progression for his character and the relationships with both his future wife and his friends might have also benefited from that.

I think that was just for the joke. AFAIK California has a point system for traffic violations and Sheldon would only be fined and get a point or two on his licence. Since he usually doesn't drive it's unlikely he has accumulated enough points for his license to be suspended.

Personally I wouldn't hold my breath to see Sheldon become a regular driver. It's not for everyone and I rather see the show only use it for special occasions.

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3 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Is it basically inferred that Sheldon has now lost his license? So he spent presumably loads of time getting over his anxieties, spending hours learning to drive and then pass his test and it's now gone?

Kind of disappointing if the whole thing was just a setup gag in Season 10 which has now been finally used.

I kind of would have liked to see him actually start driving, would have been a nice character progression for his character and the relationships with both his future wife and his friends might have also benefited from that.

I think it is implied that he got his license by some lucky strike or maybe he annoyed the tester so much that they just gave it to him. Driving is not a simple task for everybody. Some people need much more training or are better not doing it. It is not surprising that someone with different brain functioning, different patterns if attention, is one of them. Maybe he could work on his driving in empty lots and with simulators. I don't think what happened is beyond repair, maybe he will have to take a course... I don't know how it works in the US. 

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1 hour ago, Jonny said:

Is it basically inferred that Sheldon has now lost his license? So he spent presumably loads of time getting over his anxieties, spending hours learning to drive and then pass his test and it's now gone?

Kind of disappointing if the whole thing was just a setup gag in Season 10 which has now been finally used.

I kind of would have liked to see him actually start driving, would have been a nice character progression for his character and the relationships with both his future wife and his friends might have also benefited from that.

Well I'm with you on this one @Jonny  I found it annoying myself.  

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Just now, Kathy2611 said:

Well I'm with you on this one @Jonny  I found it annoying myself.  

My guess is that this probably kills off any Sheldon driving in the future. Probably get some line in a conversation with Sheldon saying he has given his license up.

I like character growth and I think Sheldon himself would have benefited perhaps if he had explored it more. Maybe he isn't a driving person but I would have liked to have seen this explored rather than just a one time gag (we shall see if it is or not).

But that's my personal bugbear, just another one to add to the list lol!

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1 hour ago, April said:

I think that was just for the joke. AFAIK California has a point system for traffic violations and Sheldon would only be fined and get a point or two on his licence. Since he usually doesn't drive it's unlikely he has accumulated enough points for his license to be suspended.

Personally I wouldn't hold my breath to see Sheldon become a regular driver. It's not for everyone and I rather see the show only use it for special occasions.

Oh yes. Just to remind...

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"S: Yeah, wait, no, I'm not gonna so far as to say that I represent a distinct new stage in humankind. You know, a Homo novus, if you will…
...But I am convinced that the reason I cannot master the plebeian task of driving is because I'm not meant to."
S2 - The Euclid Alternative

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2 hours ago, bfm said:

I think it is implied that he got his license by some lucky strike or maybe he annoyed the tester so much that they just gave it to him. Driving is not a simple task for everybody. Some people need much more training or are better not doing it. It is not surprising that someone with different brain functioning, different patterns if attention, is one of them. Maybe he could work on his driving in empty lots and with simulators. I don't think what happened is beyond repair, maybe he will have to take a course... I don't know how it works in the US. 

In most U.S. states there is a point system in play. One speeding violation would not cost him his license unless the charge was not speeding, but reckless driving. However, people charged with reckless driving are typically arrested, and not just ticketed. I live in Georgia, and someone going 112 miles per hours would be ticketed as a 'super speeder' and fined an absurd amount of money. That speed in a city, or residential area, would probably get him charged with reckless driving. On an open highway, interstate (Motor Way or Autobahn), or freeway it would just get him ticketed.

While it may be possible that he received his license from an exasperated examiner, there would not be anything to note that in his driving record or DMV file. His license would be identical to all other motorists with full driving privileges. The fly in this ointment is that while Sheldon might have a license to drive, he would likely not have insurance since he does not own a car. It is possible to get insurance but he would probably see that as an unnecessary expense as he usually has no interest in driving. Driving without insurance would get him arrested.

The idea of Sheldon and Howard bonding is interesting. While it has been tried before there is a lot of potential humor in this pairing. I do find it a bit implausible that Howard and Sheldon cannot launch a model rocket. It does, however, fit into the TBBT theme of rarely letting these characters succeed at anything.

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9 minutes ago, HeWolf said:

In most U.S. states there is a point system in play. One speeding violation would not cost him his license unless the charge was not speeding, but reckless driving. However, people charged with reckless driving are typically arrested, and not just ticketed. I live in Georgia, and someone going 112 miles per hours would be ticketed as a 'super speeder' and fined an absurd amount of money. That speed in a city, or residential area, would probably get him charged with reckless driving. On an open highway, interstate (Motor Way or Autobahn), or freeway it would just get him ticketed.

While it may be possible that he received his license from an exasperated examiner, there would not be anything to note that in his driving record or DMV file. His license would be identical to all other motorists with full driving privileges. The fly in this ointment is that while Sheldon might have a license to drive, he would likely not have insurance since he does not own a car. It is possible to get insurance but he would probably see that as an unnecessary expense as he usually has no interest in driving. Driving without insurance would get him arrested.

The idea of Sheldon and Howard bonding is interesting. While it has been tried before there is a lot of potential humor in this pairing. I do find it a bit implausible that Howard and Sheldon cannot launch a model rocket. It does, however, fit into the TBBT theme of rarely letting these characters succeed at anything.

Rare storylines involved certain character pairings always interest me. The Sheldon and Howard interactions and storylines are rare, but I have liked the ones where they aren't arguing or bickering over the years. I like Simon and Jim interacting.

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1 hour ago, Jonny said:

Rare storylines involved certain character pairings always interest me. The Sheldon and Howard interactions and storylines are rare, but I have liked the ones where they aren't arguing or bickering over the years. I like Simon and Jim interacting.

Agree mostly, but at this point the Sheldon/Howard interactions are becoming an annual event.  Would like to see more of the Leonard/Amy interaction as they have the close link with each of their significant others.  We have had only two Leonard/Bernadette interactions (I'm counting when she was new and was interested in Leonard's work, even though they were one-on-one) so I would like to see that as well.......

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6 hours ago, NotWonderland said:

Ok here we go this is crazy long because i typed up everything i could possibly remember, most of it in the uber on the way back lol but if something doesnt make sense feel free to let me know.

First scene howard and bernie she's getting scanned, the nurse asks if they want a boy or girl they say their first baby they really wanted a girl this time they just want it to be healthy, its a boy... turns out they did want a girl. 

Goes straight to the gang on the couch howard stressing he doesn't know how to raise a boy, eventually the convo goes to model rockets sheldon is happy. 
Amy asks if they've thought of names sheldon gets annoyed cause it took such a long time to get off the baby topic (essentially lol)

Next it goes to penny and leonard hes complaining his star trek uniform has green paint on it penny says "well if you didn't make me wear the paint in bed" and he replies its worth it, as he leaves his skype goes off its beverly, penny answers they have a awkward conversation about what Beverly did the night before.
Next it goes to howard, raj and sheldon in howards garage going through his model rockets. Howard and sheldon bond over their fathers but raj can't relate, his father gave him a car and holidays, so he goes in to see Bernadette. 
Howard suggests him and sheldon build a rocket together(its one his father gave him) sheldon says like a bonding experience and howard seems happy but sheldon says oh you think that's a good thing ( they did this scene so many times i dont think rajs joke was really getting the right reactions, they kept changing it, but jims facial expressions at the end had everyone losing it laughing)
next it went inside to raj and Bernadette, shes sorting out Halleys old baby clothes to get rid of. Raj asks why they cant keep them for the new baby and Bernadette holds up a onsie that says daddys little girl on it raj says add magnet to the end and its good to use, next she holds up a red dress, he says take the tutu off and put a lightning bolt on it and it's baby flash and add another shirt underneath and its baby sheldon. Bernie says hes good at that (making the clothes suitable) and asked did he used to get his sisters hand me downs and raj looks all shifty eyed and agrees. 
Im a bit rough on the rest so i dont think its in order but it goes to sheldon and howard in the car talking about peanuts, then them in the desert ready for their rocket launch sheldon bickering during the countdown, the rocket explodes. 
Goes back to penny and beverly talking penny says they need a third girl to diss and beverly says isnt sheldons fiancé dower, penny says oooh dower meow. 
Then you see the boys in the desert trying to collect the pieces of the model rocket sheldon is listing reasons for something (i cant remember what sorry)
Over to penny and leonard penny texting beverly she said beverly enjoys talking to her she thinks she reaching out to someone, leonard asks did she get tired of talking to the mirror on the wall, then penny says Beverly also told her that shes proud of her, leonard is upset cause shes never said that to him.
Then we go to Bernadette and raj again, raj is on the sewing machine and they're chatting about her pregnancy, bernie says she had all brothers so thought it would be better if halley had a sister.Theres a line about a boy being either sensitive or rough but i cant really remember it but kunal was hilarious when he said it. 
Next is amy on the computer leonard walks in and complains that penny is talking to his mother, amy isnt really bothered until leonard asks if shes ok with penny having a new best friend. Amy says you can only have one best friend and its her, they both start talking about their problems with it, Amy thinks she's been neglecting penny because of work and wedding planning, it ends with Amy yelling why cant she just let me have my life (or something similar), this whole exchange was funny reminded me of early seasons Amy, she says good talk and leonard leaves.

Back to sheldon and howard in the car, they're talking, sheldon asks to drive howard says he doesn't even have a license, sheldon says he does, hes had it for 3 years and was on a licence kick he is also a commercial fisherman, howard asks him why doesn't he drive and why he wants to now, i can't remember the first answer (i think it was barely passed) but the second was the road was straight there was little traffic and howard didn't want to live. Howard says he does and sheldon says your making this harder (or something).

Back to leonard he skypes his mother she thinks its penny but talks to him he ends up crying because she tells him shes proud of him and likes penny (to sum up the convo)

Sheldon is now driving, hes smiling and having fun howard tells him to change lanes and sheldon asks why, howard says because this street only has 2 lanes and theyre not in either of them. Sheldon says howard is a good father or teacher i cant remember which. Howard gently punches him in the shoulder and sheldon goes ow and gives him a look. Sheldon asks if he can go faster and then basically floors it lol hes having a great time he says he doesn't know why he was ever scared. 
Tag scene is sheldon pulled over with a police car behind him, he leans over to howard and says heres the plan howard says no before he can start. The police officer asks if he knew how fast he was going to which sheldon replies 112 then he hands his license over and says you can keep that.

Bts: jim was super friendly all night with everyone he smiled and waved at the audience a couple times and was laughing watching the playback while waiting for his scene. He was also talking to simon in between takes i heard him saying stuff was broken and things like that. Looked like mayim had her boys there she bought them out during the taping to see one of the people in the front row, after the show simon, kunal and mayim were out taking pics with some people. Kaley and Johnny came and did their chat to the audience but other then chatting to each other with kaley swearing at him when he made her mess up we didn't see them much.
 

Thanks for the detailed taping report. Unfortunately it looks like a mediocre episode. Another baby storyline including Raj. meh. Beverly caring and liking Penny (and Leonard). meh. Kind of a 180 for Beverly. Leonard and Amy jealous .Again. The model rocket. I don't care.

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1 hour ago, HeWolf said:

While it may be possible that he received his license from an exasperated examiner, there would not be anything to note that in his driving record or DMV file. His license would be identical to all other motorists with full driving privileges. 

Of course not, my intention was to say that he may have gotten a license even though he is still a horrible driver and knowing how bad he is made him avoid driving while having a license (and lie that it is because he likes having others drive him).

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3 minutes ago, bfm said:

Of course not, my intention was to say that he may have gotten a license even though he is still a horrible driver and knowing how bad he is made him avoid driving while having a license (and lie that it is because he likes having others drive him).

To me it makes perfect sense that Sheldon is a horrible driver, we have seen him drive badly when he took Penny to the hospital, we have seen him crash on Howard's simulator, he has told Leonard he mixes up the pedals and now we will see him drive badly with Howard.  Actually him not being able to drive is some of the best continuity I think we have on the show across all the seasons, so I like this plot in the episode.

Also, @NotWonderland thank you so much for the taping report.

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7 hours ago, NotWonderland said:

Ok here we go this is crazy long because i typed up everything i could possibly remember, most of it in the uber on the way back lol but if something doesnt make sense feel free to let me know.

First scene howard and bernie she's getting scanned, the nurse asks if they want a boy or girl they say their first baby they really wanted a girl this time they just want it to be healthy, its a boy... turns out they did want a girl. 

Goes straight to the gang on the couch howard stressing he doesn't know how to raise a boy, eventually the convo goes to model rockets sheldon is happy. 
Amy asks if they've thought of names sheldon gets annoyed cause it took such a long time to get off the baby topic (essentially lol)

Next it goes to penny and leonard hes complaining his star trek uniform has green paint on it penny says "well if you didn't make me wear the paint in bed" and he replies its worth it, as he leaves his skype goes off its beverly, penny answers they have a awkward conversation about what Beverly did the night before.
Next it goes to howard, raj and sheldon in howards garage going through his model rockets. Howard and sheldon bond over their fathers but raj can't relate, his father gave him a car and holidays, so he goes in to see Bernadette. 
Howard suggests him and sheldon build a rocket together(its one his father gave him) sheldon says like a bonding experience and howard seems happy but sheldon says oh you think that's a good thing ( they did this scene so many times i dont think rajs joke was really getting the right reactions, they kept changing it, but jims facial expressions at the end had everyone losing it laughing)
next it went inside to raj and Bernadette, shes sorting out Halleys old baby clothes to get rid of. Raj asks why they cant keep them for the new baby and Bernadette holds up a onsie that says daddys little girl on it raj says add magnet to the end and its good to use, next she holds up a red dress, he says take the tutu off and put a lightning bolt on it and it's baby flash and add another shirt underneath and its baby sheldon. Bernie says hes good at that (making the clothes suitable) and asked did he used to get his sisters hand me downs and raj looks all shifty eyed and agrees. 
Im a bit rough on the rest so i dont think its in order but it goes to sheldon and howard in the car talking about peanuts, then them in the desert ready for their rocket launch sheldon bickering during the countdown, the rocket explodes. 
Goes back to penny and beverly talking penny says they need a third girl to diss and beverly says isnt sheldons fiancé dower, penny says oooh dower meow. 
Then you see the boys in the desert trying to collect the pieces of the model rocket sheldon is listing reasons for something (i cant remember what sorry)
Over to penny and leonard penny texting beverly she said beverly enjoys talking to her she thinks she reaching out to someone, leonard asks did she get tired of talking to the mirror on the wall, then penny says Beverly also told her that shes proud of her, leonard is upset cause shes never said that to him.
Then we go to Bernadette and raj again, raj is on the sewing machine and they're chatting about her pregnancy, bernie says she had all brothers so thought it would be better if halley had a sister.Theres a line about a boy being either sensitive or rough but i cant really remember it but kunal was hilarious when he said it. 
Next is amy on the computer leonard walks in and complains that penny is talking to his mother, amy isnt really bothered until leonard asks if shes ok with penny having a new best friend. Amy says you can only have one best friend and its her, they both start talking about their problems with it, Amy thinks she's been neglecting penny because of work and wedding planning, it ends with Amy yelling why cant she just let me have my life (or something similar), this whole exchange was funny reminded me of early seasons Amy, she says good talk and leonard leaves.

Back to sheldon and howard in the car, they're talking, sheldon asks to drive howard says he doesn't even have a license, sheldon says he does, hes had it for 3 years and was on a licence kick he is also a commercial fisherman, howard asks him why doesn't he drive and why he wants to now, i can't remember the first answer (i think it was barely passed) but the second was the road was straight there was little traffic and howard didn't want to live. Howard says he does and sheldon says your making this harder (or something).

Back to leonard he skypes his mother she thinks its penny but talks to him he ends up crying because she tells him shes proud of him and likes penny (to sum up the convo)

Sheldon is now driving, hes smiling and having fun howard tells him to change lanes and sheldon asks why, howard says because this street only has 2 lanes and theyre not in either of them. Sheldon says howard is a good father or teacher i cant remember which. Howard gently punches him in the shoulder and sheldon goes ow and gives him a look. Sheldon asks if he can go faster and then basically floors it lol hes having a great time he says he doesn't know why he was ever scared. 
Tag scene is sheldon pulled over with a police car behind him, he leans over to howard and says heres the plan howard says no before he can start. The police officer asks if he knew how fast he was going to which sheldon replies 112 then he hands his license over and says you can keep that.

Bts: jim was super friendly all night with everyone he smiled and waved at the audience a couple times and was laughing watching the playback while waiting for his scene. He was also talking to simon in between takes i heard him saying stuff was broken and things like that. Looked like mayim had her boys there she bought them out during the taping to see one of the people in the front row, after the show simon, kunal and mayim were out taking pics with some people. Kaley and Johnny came and did their chat to the audience but other then chatting to each other with kaley swearing at him when he made her mess up we didn't see them much.
 

Thanks for the TR. Do you remember the title of the episode?

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