[Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

[veejay]

27 minutes ago, JE7 said:

Ummm.... No.

His reaction was WAY over the top, but that was the point for comedy's sake. Most people dont have complete meltdowns when life throws them a curveball. Your average adult when faced with adversity dosent run away from home.

But that way over the top reaction is part of sheldons character as written, he dosent handel change like "most people"

Oh, come on.

(Well, I would take my marijuana at first.)

Edited September 18, 2017 by veejay
I forgot a small part.

[JE7]

14 minutes ago, Jonny said:

So your career is in tatters potentially and your roommate who came after you wants to boot you out of your own apartment? So you woukd be fine and dandy with that happening to you?

Ever heard the expression 'kicking a man when he's down?'

Look I get that Leonard wanted to move into a place with his fiancee but the timing was incredibly poor and I get why it was done because this episode was about making Sheldon reaching a point where he had to run away, so creating drama in both his work and home life was seen as a way of doing it.

Well lets see, i have lost my job while living paycheck to paycheck with a wife and baby to provide for if that counts good thing for them i picked myself up and delt with it instead of running away to ride the rails like a hobo. "most people" have times in their lives that make sheldons problems look ridiculously simple.

 

11 minutes ago, veejay said:

Oh, come on.

 

Edited September 18, 2017 by JE7

[Jonny]

6 minutes ago, JE7 said:

Well lets see, i have lost my job while living paycheck to paycheck with a wife and baby to provide for if that counts good thing for them i picked myself up and delt with it instead of running away to ride the rails like a hobo. "most people" have havr times in their lives that make sheldons problems look ridiculously simple.

 

Sorry to hear you have been through so much adversity and you genuinely have my respect as would anyone else who has been through similar life testing situations.

[JE7]

THE GOOD: There are now two shows worth watching to me on tv

THE BAD: They are both on Thursday at 8

Edited September 18, 2017 by JE7
Time for TPTB to break out the tank tops :)

[Jonny]

6 minutes ago, JE7 said:

THE GOOD: There are now two shows worth watching to me on tv

THE BAD: They are both on Thursday at 8

Still waiting for it to be shown in the UK!

[JE7]

11 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Still waiting for it to be shown in the UK!

I am excited about it luckily for TBBT as of now, I can watch one an dvr the other 

 

Edited September 18, 2017 by JE7
Its blasphemy i know

[joyceraye]

16 hours ago, Tensor said:

When you get a grade, for GPA purposes, it is assigned a value, usually. A= 4, B=3, C=2, D=1, F=0.  There's a formula where you multiply the grade value, by the number of credits for that class, then divide by the total number of credits.  If you get an "A" in a five credit class, and a B in a three credit class, you would have 5x4 plus 3x3 or, 20 + 9 or 29.  This would be divided by the eight total credits,  29/8 gives you a GPA of 3.62.

Thanks. is the  grade for an exam or for work in a class ? If it's a class, is it over all six years in high school, or just the last year ?

[Chrismo]

8 hours ago, vonmar said:

No, (IMO) Lenny's problems are their own.  We need to stop blaming Sheldon.

Some need to stop making excuses for Sheldon too. I think more people make excuses for him than blame him for things.

[HeWolf]

36 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Thanks. is the  grade for an exam or for work in a class ? If it's a class, is it over all six years in high school, or just the last year ?

Grades within a class all contribute for the final GPA in that class. There are varying systems for how a final class grade is computed, i.e.; the grade may be comprised of an average of class work/homework grades, test grades, and a mid-term and final exam grade. Each section is averaged, then the averages are added together and divided by three to give the final class grade. There are other systems where the test and exam grades are given more importance.

Each high school year (there are three or four in the US) all stand alone, but the final cumulative GPA encompasses the entire high school tenure. Same with college/university GPAs.

I went to an elementary school (grades 1-5), junior high (6-8) and high school (9-12). Only the high school years counted for GPA purposes. 

Edited September 18, 2017 by HeWolf

[Die Zimtzicke]

10 hours ago, Chrismo said:

JMO but it's time to wrap up the show.

I wanted them to wrap the show at the end of last year. I love a lot about the show but I think at this point they are going to be dragging into the ground just to keep making whatever money they can off of it. I would so much rather they had gone out on top.

10 hours ago, legacy99 said:

My guess is tptb will put on screen any character that they think will make sheldon in their opinion funny no matter what their role has been or how long they have been on the show

Stuart is on a lot and mostly relates to either Howardette or Raj, so I don't think your theory works with him. Bert maybe, but not Stuart.

9 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Really? I'm surprised.  Um... How much does Doris Day and Rock Hudson date me. Good counter argument I'd have thought.  Isn't it  what acting is all about. Y'know... playing a character. Well directed and good actors playing good material are convincing, no matter who they go out with off the job.

This is why I try really hard to differentiate between the actors and their roles. I never say I don't like an actor if I can help it. A character, yes, I can dislike them. But it's really hard for me to dislike an actor. They're just doing their jobs.

9 hours ago, vonmar said:

No, (IMO) Lenny's problems are their own.  We need to stop blaming Sheldon.

Who decided Sheldon should keep living with them when Penny and Leonard got married? PENNY did. I can give tons of other examples of where they have knuckled under to him and he's gotten all the blame for it. I don't know why, either. It's one of the things that makes Leonard look whiny- when he complains about Sheldon but lets him have at it at the same time,

[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, HeWolf said:

Grades within a class all contribute for the final GPA in that class. There are varying systems for how a final class grade is computed, i.e.; the grade may be comprised of an average of class work/homework grades, test grades, and a mid-term and final exam grade. Each section is averaged, then the averages are added together and divided by three to give the final class grade. There are other systems where the test and exam grades are given more importance.

Each high school year (there are three or four in the US) all stand alone, but the final cumulative GPA encompasses the entire high school tenure. Same with college/university GPAs.

I went to an elementary school (grades 1-5), junior high (6-8) and high school (9-12). Only the high school years counted for GPA purposes. 

Sounds like a motive for keeping one's head down and working hard all the time, not deferring the hard study until the last minute. I don't know how I'd have dealt with that. Well, yes I do but I'm not admitting it

[bfm]

9 hours ago, serena_1995 said:

I am just listing all the episodes /examples where Lenny had some kind of conflict(although our personal interpretation may vary) . Whether it was pointlessly OOC or not (I thought Penny decorating the room with all shades of pink was a bit OOC) , it doesn't change that Sheldon was not really causing  any of those , especially not in the season 10 examples I gave.  So I kinda disagree with this claim that he is 24x7 causing issues with Lenny. especially since he moved out to 4B with Amy.  

You can see in my post that I disagree with that too. I just felt the need to reply to some things that for me felt a tad exaggerated or lacked context. 

[bfm]

5 hours ago, Jonny said:

So your career is in tatters potentially and your roommate who came after you wants to boot you out of your own apartment? So you woukd be fine and dandy with that happening to you?

Ever heard the expression 'kicking a man when he's down?'

Look I get that Leonard wanted to move into a place with his fiancee but the timing was incredibly poor and I get why it was done because this episode was about making Sheldon reaching a point where he had to run away, so creating drama in both his work and home life was seen as a way of doing it.

Umm... No one was kicking him out. Leonard was just raising options. For Sheldon this option was terrifying so his reaction was extreme because he is not your "average" person. (And I have no problem with this, it's a sitcom, these characters are flawed.)

[veejay]

20 minutes ago, bfm said:

Umm... No one was kicking him out. Leonard was just raising options. For Sheldon this option was terrifying so his reaction was extreme because he is not your "average" person. (And I have no problem with this, it's a sitcom, these characters are flawed.)

Exactly..

..what else? 

[Mario D.]

13 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Not really. Most of Lennys issues derive from Sheldon. Their first date ended badly. When Sheldon gave Penny conflicting information. And reassurance. "We need to stop blaming Sheldon" . Your kidding right. When has anyone around here ever blamed Sheldon for anything LOL.

Maybe Lennys problems are inflicted upon by themselves somewhat, but you cannot deny that Sheldon is an instigator whether he is conscious about it or not. One example that really sticks in my mind was when P&L got engaged. Shouldn't Leonard's mother have received this news from Leonard himself and not from Sheldon?  I thought this was just disgraceful of Sheldon to tell Beverly this and her reaction was just as disgraceful when she stated "that if Penny is good enough for Sheldon than she is good enough for me" If I was Leonard I would have told Sheldon where to go and move in with Penny right then.

[veejay]

23 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

Maybe Lennys problems are inflicted upon by themselves somewhat, but you cannot deny that Sheldon is an instigator whether he is conscious about it or not. One example that really sticks in my mind was when P&L got engaged. Shouldn't Leonard's mother have received this news from Leonard himself and not from Sheldon?  I thought this was just disgraceful of Sheldon to tell Beverly this and her reaction was just as disgraceful when she stated "that if Penny is good enough for Sheldon than she is good enough for me" If I was Leonard I would have told Sheldon where to go and move in with Penny right then.

Full approval from my side.

That's why I am also very curious about a future development of the argument between the two ladies in the future (see the last taping report).

[Mario D.]

1 hour ago, veejay said:

Full approval from my side.

That's why I am also very curious about a future development of the argument between the two ladies in the future (see the last taping report).

I am curious as well. But i thought that their conversation was not so much an argument as an approval or validation of their marriage I could be wrong as you don't get much from the taping report.

[veejay]

51 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

I am curious as well. But i thought that their conversation was not so much an argument as an approval or validation of their marriage I could be wrong as you don't get much from the taping report.

Correct, therefore I am very curious about a possible new orientation of Beverly's "psychological state" in relation of Penny and Leonard.

[3ku11]

 I'm not saying he's purely responsible for Lennys issues. I agree a lot of them are their own doing. But you can't deny he has been an instigator in a ton of them.

I mean no One kicked Sheldon out. Leonard just simply gave him an option. And he choose to react badly. I do agree their current living arrangement before Sheldon moved out. Was Pennys Fault. Which made her blaming Leonard for their situation in S9 even more inexplicable. 

And yes I think the most interesting thing to come out of the tapings this season so far. Is Beverlys changed psychological state to Lenny. Not sure how that we'll develop. I guess it depends on Christine Baranskis availability. But in any case it's been great to see another side to her. I think you first saw that 9.24-10.01. 

[Nogravitasatall]

11 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Snip A.

This is why I try really hard to differentiate between the actors and their roles. I never say I don't like an actor if I can help it. A character, yes, I can dislike them. But it's really hard for me to dislike an actor. They're just doing their jobs.

Snip B 

Who decided Sheldon should keep living with them when Penny and Leonard got married? PENNY did. I can give tons of other examples of where they have knuckled under to him and he's gotten all the blame for it. I don't know why, either. It's one of the things that makes Leonard look whiny- when he complains about Sheldon but lets him have at it at the same time,

A. 100%. But people blur the lines between fiction and reality. It's not just in the direction of hate. Sometimes the love spills across the border too.

B. They knuckle under because Sheldon provokes them to knuckle under. He generates the impetus. If he didn't ask for or need whatever it is, why would they voluntarily give or allow it. The premise requires they give in and cede him primacy. The alternative is they flee and save themselves. No 12 seasons there. And the pair, who once stood up for themselves against an ogre and a lunatic just fold like Saturday nights laundry. But it's the Sheldon and Amy show now. Huzzah. 

Australia still hasn't finished season 10. No urgency apparently. No idea of the ratings but I guess there is no popular demand for new episodes. Drawing a long bow, maybe we've had enough. They peaked. 

Edited September 19, 2017 by Nogravitasatall

[legacy99]

Has anyone lost any wallpaper?

I was thinking curtains

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[3ku11]

47 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

A. 100%. But people blur the lines between fiction and reality. It's not just in the direction of hate. Sometimes the love spills across the border too.

B. They knuckle under because Sheldon provokes them to knuckle under. He generates the impetus. If he didn't ask for or need whatever it is, why would they voluntarily give or allow it. The premise requires they give in and cede him primacy. The alternative is they flee and save themselves. No 12 seasons there. And the pair, who once stood up for themselves against an ogre and a lunatic just fold like Saturday nights laundry. But it's the Sheldon and Amy show now. Huzzah. 

Australia still hasn't finished season 10. No urgency apparently. No idea of the ratings but I guess there is no popular demand for new episodes. Drawing a long bow, maybe we've had enough. They peaked. 

. Pretty much the status of the show over here. Tbbt is played here even in hiatus. 6 times a week. Over Saturation is a real factor. Their also doesent seem to be any real popular demand for new episodes. 

Edited September 19, 2017 by 3ku11

[ajond]

51 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

A. 100%. But people blur the lines between fiction and reality. It's not just in the direction of hate. Sometimes the love spills across the border too.

B. They knuckle under because Sheldon provokes them to knuckle under. He generates the impetus. If he didn't ask for or need whatever it is, why would they voluntarily give or allow it. The premise requires they give in and cede him primacy. The alternative is they flee and save themselves. No 12 seasons there. And the pair, who once stood up for themselves against an ogre and a lunatic just fold like Saturday nights laundry. But it's the Sheldon and Amy show now. Huzzah. 

Australia still hasn't finished season 10. No urgency apparently. No idea of the ratings but I guess there is no popular demand for new episodes. Drawing a long bow, maybe we've had enough. They peaked. 

same in Melbourne. Not missed at all.

[djsurrey]

14 hours ago, JE7 said:

THE GOOD: There are now two shows worth watching to me on tv

THE BAD: They are both on Thursday at 8

Googles search for photo is handy as I had not idea what that was a few seconds ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orville

[hokie3457]

1 hour ago, ajond said:

Has anyone lost any wallpaper?

In 1969 I was going into the 7th grade (12 yrs old) and I had a shirt similar to this!