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Liked the episode....Sheldon in the new fancy school reminded me of Harry Potter when he entered Hogwarts for the first time, and the principal (before she went in hippie mode) looked like Minerva McGonagall, LOL! The only thing that bothered me was Sheldon in the voice over calling Tam his friend, even if it seemed clear from the scene Tam wasn't being very friendly. If the show lasts long enough, it will be interesting to see in which university Sheldon is going in a couple of years, Mary doesn't seem ready to let him go very far...

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I thought it was nice, Zoe and Reagen were awesome. There were funny and touching moments. The thing is, at the end of the day the episodes are quite banal and predictable, JMO. 

5 hours ago, mirs1 said:

Liked the episode....Sheldon in the new fancy school reminded me of Harry Potter when he entered Hogwarts for the first time, and the principal (before she went in hippie mode) looked like Minerva McGonagall, LOL! The only thing that bothered me was Sheldon in the voice over calling Tam his friend, even if it seemed clear from the scene Tam wasn't being very friendly. If the show lasts long enough, it will be interesting to see in which university Sheldon is going in a couple of years, Mary doesn't seem ready to let him go very far...

I thought Sheldon's misperception of Tam was more IC than many things on YS.

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8 hours ago, mirs1 said:

Liked the episode....Sheldon in the new fancy school reminded me of Harry Potter when he entered Hogwarts for the first time, and the principal (before she went in hippie mode) looked like Minerva McGonagall, LOL! The only thing that bothered me was Sheldon in the voice over calling Tam his friend, even if it seemed clear from the scene Tam wasn't being very friendly. If the show lasts long enough, it will be interesting to see in which university Sheldon is going in a couple of years, Mary doesn't seem ready to let him go very far...

Don't they usually have to have a parent or similar with them if they go to university that young ? It'll be interesting to see how the family deals with that if the series is going to continue after Sheldon's eleven.

I've always thought Tam was a genuine friend, or at least as much of a friend as a boy four or five years older could be. I'd like him to turn up in TBBT some time. He certainly wasn't as grief-stricken as Sheldon thought he ought to be, but it would be strange if he were. It's not the biggest hardship Tam's been through in his life.

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3 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Don't they usually have to have a parent or similar with them if they go to university that young ? It'll be interesting to see how the family deals with that if the series is going to continue after Sheldon's eleven.

I'm no expert, but Mary has two more children, one the same age as Sheldon, I don't think she can leave everything for following him at the university. I guess Sheldon will have a sort of tutor (maybe a professor like it was going to happen in this episode) and will live with them. Or, we'll find out he went in a college nearby, maybe at Huston.

9 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

 

I've always thought Tam was a genuine friend, or at least as much of a friend as a boy four or five years older could be. I'd like him to turn up in TBBT some time. He certainly wasn't as grief-stricken as Sheldon thought he ought to be, but it would be strange if he were. It's not the biggest hardship Tam's been through in his life.

In  the main show Sheldon has said so many times he didn't have any friend that I found inconsistent to hear from his own "adult" voice that Tam was a friend. I know that there have to be some differences with TBBT, otherwise Sheldon's childhood wouldn't be comedy material, and I'm more than willing to close an eye (or two) on not very serious canon breaks, so it's not the existence of Tam per se that bothers me, it's the "acknowledgement" of his friend status, LOL!

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3 hours ago, mirs1 said:

In  the main show Sheldon has said so many times he didn't have any friend that I found inconsistent to hear from his own "adult" voice that Tam was a friend. I know that there have to be some differences with TBBT, otherwise Sheldon's childhood wouldn't be comedy material, and I'm more than willing to close an eye (or two) on not very serious canon breaks, so it's not the existence of Tam per se that bothers me, it's the "acknowledgement" of his friend status, LOL!

While I'm enjoying the series overall, I'm also bothered by Sheldon's classification of Tam as a "friend." As you said, his existence isn't the problem. We all have people in our lives with whom we interact, but they're better classified as acquaintances than anything else. The parent series hasn't mentioned Tam for 11 seasons now. It makes you wonder if they'll be casting an adult Tam to attend Shamy's wedding. If that happens, I feel like it's more pandering to the existence of the spin-off than being consistent with canon. If I'm not mistaken, they even referred to Billy Sparks as one of Sheldon's friends in the promo for next week's episode.

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I don't understand the title of the episode.  I know where the references to the Eagle feather and the string bean are, but how does the Eskimo fit in?  Watched the episode twice. I'm not as smart as Sheldon but....

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1 hour ago, Porky said:

I don't understand the title of the episode.  I know where the references to the Eagle feather and the string bean are, but how does the Eskimo fit in?  Watched the episode twice. I'm not as smart as Sheldon but....

I just watched it again, looking for the Eskimo. There's a scene in which Sheldon's new host emerges from a room surrounded by an ice cloud. Other than that, I have no suggestion to make. What I don't understand is why they were eating what looked like scrambled egg with their meat and carrots. Is that a Texas thing ?

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I have finally watched this episode and I thought it was a boring one. There is imo something odd going on about the dynamic of the character's  interactions and about the dialogues, they are getting poor recently. The jokes were weak too comparing with earlier episodes.

Btw, the best friend thing also bored me a bit as it is not consistent with adult Sheldon had told us for years.

Hoping the upcoming episodes could be more interisting though.

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13 hours ago, Porky said:

I don't understand the title of the episode.  I know where the references to the Eagle feather and the string bean are, but how does the Eskimo fit in?  Watched the episode twice. I'm not as smart as Sheldon but....

I'm at a loss, too. There may have been a line about an eskimo that got removed in the final edit. Sometimes titles of episodes of "Mom," which also feature wacky things mentioned in the episodes, change from their previously announced titles. Someone may have dropped the ball on this title.

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48 minutes ago, spidergirl said:

I have finally watched this episode and I thought it was a boring one. There is imo something odd going on about the dynamic of the character's  interactions and about the dialogues, they are getting poor recently. The jokes were weak too comparing with earlier episodes.

Btw, the best friend thing also bored me a bit as it is not consistent with adult Sheldon had told us for years.

Hoping the upcoming episodes could be more interesting though.

Just goes to show, what an adult says about his childhood is not necessarily correct. At the same time, how a child sees things is not necessarily correct either. We have yet to see how the relationship with Tam worked out. Since we've not heard about him from adult Sheldon, they probably lost touch when Sheldon went off to college at eleven and Tam got into girlfriends. Billy we know, or at least have heard from adult Sheldon, later turned out not to be a friend. Even adult Sheldon changes  on a whim from friend to enemy to acquaintance and back again.

I didn't even notice there were jokes in this episode.

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5 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Just goes to show, what an adult says about his childhood is not necessarily correct. At the same time, how a child sees things is not necessarily correct either. We have yet to see how the relationship with Tam worked out. Since we've not heard about him from adult Sheldon, they probably lost touch when Sheldon went off to college at eleven and Tam got into girlfriends. Billy we know, or at least have heard from adult Sheldon, later turned out not to be a friend. Even adult Sheldon changes  on a whim from friend to enemy to acquaintance and back again.

I didn't even notice there were jokes in this episode.

It was adult Sheldon in the voice-over who described Tam as a friend. But you are right about his quick changes of mind regarding friends.

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2 hours ago, bfm said:

It was adult Sheldon in the voice-over who described Tam as a friend. But you are right about his quick changes of mind regarding friends.

Yes, you're right. That's why I said, 'Just goes to show, what an adult says about his childhood is not necessarily correct.' :) So it might or might not be. Sheldon thought Tam was heartbroken at his going to Dallas, but we saw Tam didn't care. They probably mainly hung out at weekends anyway so Tam knew he'd hardly notice. Whether adult Sheldon still believed Tam was sad that day, or whether he was relating what went through his head at the time, I don't know.

According to what he told Leonard when Mrs Wolowitz died, Sheldon had no friends at the time his father died. He told Beverly he had no friends when his mother related how he tried to buy uranium,but he'd only just met Tam then, so he wouldn't  regard him quite as a friend at that point, So, some of Sheldon's recollections might have been right. Tam must have been out of his life by 1994/95. I'm not sure that as a child Sheldon really understood what a friend was, so what he remembers as an adult is possibly a bit muddled.

A criticism I'd make is about the way they make an adventure or milestone out of each episode. It's hard for me to suspend disbelief when writers do outrageous things twice. In the pilot when Sheldon was taken to the High School on the first day of term, apparently never having even been to visit the place before, I realised they did that for the sake of comedy. The way he was taken this week to the host family's home 'cold' and left there with no gradual familiarisation was awful and unlikely to happen in the real world.  If they'd spread it over two or three episodes it would have been more acceptable. I didn't think the way Sheldon was frightened lying in a strange bed was funny at all. Fancy Missy having to send out a twin mayday. Any normal family would have had a chat after dinner and she could have gone to bed reassured. I know it was before computer video chats, smartphones, and all the ways boarders keep in daily touch with home now, but they did have phones in the eighties. I don't think George's fetching Sheldon after not giving the situation a chance was realistic anyway.

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On 1/6/2018 at 11:36 AM, Kev0821 said:

I'm at a loss, too. There may have been a line about an eskimo that got removed in the final edit. Sometimes titles of episodes of "Mom," which also feature wacky things mentioned in the episodes, change from their previously announced titles. Someone may have dropped the ball on this title.

 

The titles for "Mom" always feature 2 things , usually mentioned in the episode in an obscure manner. It annoys me  because I literally can't always remember the episode story from the title. YS has 3 things  in the title. I wonder if that has to do with Sheldon's triple knock . 

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On 1/5/2018 at 8:38 PM, Porky said:

I don't understand the title of the episode.  I know where the references to the Eagle feather and the string bean are, but how does the Eskimo fit in?  Watched the episode twice. I'm not as smart as Sheldon but....

The song featured near the end of the episode is "Quinn the Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)" originally written by Bob Dylan, with the most popular version being a cover by Manfred Mann (the version played on the radio at the end).

The song was inspired by a movie Dylan saw (The Savage Innocents) in which Anthony Quinn played an Eskimo:

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I was thinking about this whole thing where Sheldon calls Tam his "friend." Adult Sheldon has come a long way in TBBT and for all we know, this narration could be in the future, when Adult Sheldon has evolved even further in his emotions. It could be that Sheldon now or future narrator Sheldon looks back and now recognizes that Tam was a friend, even if he hadn't recognized it before. 

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On 1/13/2018 at 4:28 PM, EggCoriander said:

I was thinking about this whole thing where Sheldon calls Tam his "friend." Adult Sheldon has come a long way in TBBT and for all we know, this narration could be in the future, when Adult Sheldon has evolved even further in his emotions. It could be that Sheldon now or future narrator Sheldon looks back and now recognizes that Tam was a friend, even if he hadn't recognized it before. 

A 9 year old kid all by himself would also not make for as interesting television.

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