[Spoilers] Season 12 Discussion Thread

[chucky]

45 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

I don’t get what point were trying to establish here. Was Leonard selfish in this particular instance? Yes. But he’s not a selfish character in cannon. Sheldon is. If we’re taking score. It’s Sheldon 10000, Leonard 10. Theirs more vast and broader evidence over the course of the past 12 seasons of Sheldon generally being a selfish character. That doesent mean I don’t think he has any redeeming qualities. He’s proove he cares about Leonard. But you can’t quantifie one selfish action from Leonard. Which can be argued as OOC. In the same volume as Sheldons pathological pattern of selfish behaviour.

Absolutely correct! Sheldon is not really a bad guy. Just the most selfish individual in the entire TV Land. If you looked up the word selfish in the dictionary, there is probably a picture of Sheldon as a reference!  😉😏😊

[bfm]

It's a good thing Leonard doesn't do too much physical work anyway, I guess they can work around a cast/brace. They will probably invent some weird accident, with Leonard suffering disproportionate damage.

[Zephon75]

On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 10:58 PM, luminous said:

Promotional photos for episode 12.08 "The Consummation Deviation" are up on CBS Press Express. (geo-blocked)

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Is it me or does the chair Leonard's sitting on look much further away from the cream chair than normal, or is it down to the angle?.

On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 8:43 PM, Babar said:

KOOTHRAPPALI AND ANU HAVE TROUBLE MAKING THINGS PHYSICAL, ON “THE BIG BANG THEORY,” THURSDAY, NOV. 8

Kathy Bates and Teller Return as Amy’s Parents, Mr. and Mrs. Fowler

“The Consummation Deviation” – Sheldon tries to bond with Amy’s father, but when Wolowitz lures Mr. Fowler (Teller) away with magic tricks, Sheldon has no choice but to bond with Mrs. Fowler (Kathy Bates). Also, Koothrappali and Anu try to get physical for the first time, on THE BIG BANG THEORY, Thursday, Nov. 8 (8:00-8:31 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Looks like a episode that I might as well just skip, does anyone know what Leonard/Penny/Bernadette  will be doing in this episode?.

Edited November 4, 2018 by Zephon75

[veejay]

11 minutes ago, Zephon75 said:

Is it me or does the chair Leonard's sitting on look much further away from the cream chair than normal, or is it down to the angle?.

Looks like a episode that I might as well just skip, does anyone know what Leonard/Penny/Bernadette  will be doing in this episode?.

When I look at the promo pictures, Lenny are again in their traditional role to carefully observe and comment on the events of the others.

(Again, pay attention to the subjunctive)  😉

[Jonny]

5 hours ago, bfm said:

It's a good thing Leonard doesn't do too much physical work anyway, I guess they can work around a cast/brace. They will probably invent some weird accident, with Leonard suffering disproportionate damage.

Maybe there was some new online game that the guys were hooked on, Leonard especially and he does some kind of repetitive strain injury or something hence his splint?

Overwatch was the last game you saw them playing online and that was ages ago and just a brief scene.

Edited November 4, 2018 by Jonny

[Carm6773]

31 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Maybe there was some new online game that the guys were hooked on, Leonard especially and he does some kind of repetitive strain injury or something hence his brace?

Overwatch was the last game you saw them playing online and that was ages ago and just a brief scene.

Maybe they get hooked on Fortnite.

[bfm]

5 minutes ago, Carm6773 said:

Maybe they get hooked on Fortnite.

Do adults play Fortnite? I got the impression that it was more a kids' thing, but I know nothing about video games adults play.

[Die Zimtzicke]

4 hours ago, bfm said:

It's a good thing Leonard doesn't do too much physical work anyway, I guess they can work around a cast/brace. They will probably invent some weird accident, with Leonard suffering disproportionate damage.

If they want to I think they can probably hide it. Many TV shows have been talented about hiding physical issues in the past.

[chucky]

18 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

If they want to I think they can probably hide it. Many TV shows have been talented about hiding physical issues in the past.

I think it would be hard hiding a hand cast. They should just come up with an injury and embrace the moment. There could be some nice story arcs about the injury and recovery!

[Jonny]

1 hour ago, bfm said:

Do adults play Fortnite? I got the impression that it was more a kids' thing, but I know nothing about video games adults play.

Yep they do, lot of adult players out there and streamers that make millions from it.

[legacy99]

Maybe the explanation would be he was tripped by a crow

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[chucky]

2 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Maybe the explanation would be he was tripped by a crow

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The crow woman striketh!

[SRAM]

41 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Maybe the explanation would be he was tripped by a crow

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It would be so awesome if they had him get hurt doing something to protect Penny and we just have Penny fawn all over him for an episode.  It would be very in character for him to put himself in front of Penny to protect her and getting hurt instead.

[chucky]

2 minutes ago, SRAM said:

It would be so awesome if they had him get hurt doing something to protect Penny and we just have Penny fawn all over him for an episode.  It would be very in character for him to put himself in front of Penny to protect her and getting hurt instead.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Strawberry PopTart Fan]

2 hours ago, SRAM said:

It would be so awesome if they had him get hurt doing something to protect Penny and we just have Penny fawn all over him for an episode.  It would be very in character for him to put himself in front of Penny to protect her and getting hurt instead.

I was thinking that or it was from an injury incurred when falling on his hand when the bed collapsed.

Edited November 4, 2018 by Strawberry PopTart Fan

[SRAM]

1 minute ago, Strawberry PopTart Fan said:

I was think that or an injury incurred when falling on his hand when the bed collapsed.

How about the bed collapsed and he put his hand and arm under Penny’s head to keep it from hitting the floor and got his hand hurt.  They could even make a joke about it being better it was his hand than her head since she already has a hard time keeping up with them when they talk their “sciency” stuff.  

[bfm]

28 minutes ago, SRAM said:

It would be so awesome if they had him get hurt doing something to protect Penny and we just have Penny fawn all over him for an episode.  It would be very in character for him to put himself in front of Penny to protect her and getting hurt instead.

That would mean a totally different story than what they had planned, so I don't think they'd do that.

10 minutes ago, SRAM said:

How about the bed collapsed and he put his hand and arm under Penny’s head to keep it from hitting the floor and got his hand hurt.  They could even make a joke about it being better it was his hand than her head since she already has a hard time keeping up with them when they talk their “sciency” stuff.  

Hmm I don't like this kind of jokes.

Edited November 4, 2018 by bfm

[SRAM]

26 minutes ago, bfm said:

That would mean a totally different story than what they had planned, so I don't think they'd do that.

Hmm I don't like this kind of jokes.

The writers will probably never write a story with Penny fawning over Leonard, it is just not what they see in Lenny, so that was only a wish by this Lenny shipper.  I agree, but the writers love those kind of jokes.

[chucky]

51 minutes ago, SRAM said:

The writers will probably never write a story with Penny fawning over Leonard, it is just not what they see in Lenny, so that was only a wish by this Lenny shipper.  I agree, but the writers love those kind of jokes.

Agreed!

1 hour ago, bfm said:

Hmm I don't like this kind of jokes.

 I do!

[djsurrey]

On 11/2/2018 at 2:02 AM, bfm said:

I think Leonard was being selfish, with this decision. Would I use the word selfish to describe his character? No. But this action was selfish. I think they shouldn't have done that. They could have had almost the same jokes with him choosing the telescope.

This is just the way TBBT rolls with twists and turns. It has never been a morality story.

[djsurrey]

9 hours ago, bfm said:

It's a good thing Leonard doesn't do too much physical work anyway, I guess they can work around a cast/brace. They will probably invent some weird accident, with Leonard suffering disproportionate damage.

Perhaps they will have him break his finger unpacking his new laser.

9 hours ago, veejay said:

When I look at the promo pictures, Lenny are again in their traditional role to carefully observe and comment on the events of the others.

(Again, pay attention to the subjunctive)  😉

With this sitting arrangement we get to see Penny's expressive face when she turns to Leonard. It seems to me the only one who is always in the same spot is Sheldon.

Edited November 4, 2018 by djsurrey
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[bfm]

3 hours ago, djsurrey said:

This is just the way TBBT rolls with twists and turns. It has never been a morality story.

Oh definitely not a morality story! It just felt unnecessary in this case.

[Carlos]

On ‎11‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 4:07 PM, Jonny said:

There was a 'get out.'

He could have simply gone to Siebert and said that he weighed up all the options all three are doing great work and funding would help that further but he ultimately couldn't decide so he was giving up the responsibility.  Siebert would have then passed the decision on to somebody else as he revealed to Leonard. He did go to Siebert, the thing is he didn't give it up.

If it was me in that position the one thing I wouldn't do is allocate the funding to myself, from the outset that could not have been an option.  If I felt strongly that the funding would have helped me and that my case for funding was just as strong as the other candidates then I would have submitted my proposal to whoever was going to take charge of the decision after I gave it up.

Doesn't matter how he came to that outcome even if he had noble intentions from the outset, he made a decision that ultimately benefited himself.

I'm not comparing or ranking selfishness moments on the show between the characters, nor do I see the argument 'Well he's not as selfish as so and so so we can let him off just this time' as a valid one.

Leonard was selfish and I have no problem with it, none of the characters are saints on this show and it would be kind of boring if they were truth be told.

I don't share your opinion even if I understand your reasoning behind it. I wholeheartedly disagree with the part of your post I bolded, specially because intentions do matter, not just results. So much so that they are taken into consideration even when legal matters are concerned. For me it is OK to give him a pass on this one precisely because it is a rare occurrence and (to me at least) context matters. I am willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt when his/her actions merit it.

On ‎11‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 4:20 PM, Capt. Hilts said:

He could have called all three to his lab, had them write their name on small pieces of paper and drawn one out of a beaker.

In other words, he didn't have to actively make a choice and certainly shouldn't have chosen himself.

Well...he could and he did.

23 hours ago, vonmar said:

If he went to the ER, that brace may be temporary until he can see a specialist. A specialist might actually put him in a cast for a period of time.  I can't imagine that he can take that brace off for filming.

I broke my left arm a few years ago and the ER put me in a brace.  3 days later (after the swelling went down) I went to the specialist who set the break back in place and then put a cast on my arm.

Uuuggggghhhhh! I feel so sorry for you. Even if you are mentioning it matter of factly it sounds so excruciatingly painful.

[3ku11]

7 hours ago, SRAM said:

The writers will probably never write a story with Penny fawning over Leonard, it is just not what they see in Lenny, so that was only a wish by this Lenny shipper.  I agree, but the writers love those kind of jokes.

They did an episode like that, last episode. Penny was effectively fawning over Leonard. I think it would be weird if they did a whole episode of it anyway. Be OOC. They continue to make jokes. Like they make jokes like Amy is Sheldons mother. They think it works. 

Edited November 5, 2018 by 3ku11

[3ku11]

I thought this was an interesting article ova here in NZ. Makes some good points about the show ending. 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/106567097/the-big-bang-theory-after-floundering-last-season-top-sitcom-is-wise-to-wrap-up

"Creatively, however, Bang is showing its age. Although long defying the decline that eventually afflicts long-running comedies, it started to flounder last season."

Financially it makes no sense, but creatively it does. 

Edited November 5, 2018 by 3ku11