SRAM Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Chrismo said: Even if it's her just finding out she will have difficulty having kids it isn't funny. Zack shooting blanks is funny. Totally agree with your definition of ‘funny’. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfm Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, hokie3457 said: It will be a huge disservice. The only thing that will save them if she reveals that she has a medical problem that makes it difficult to conceive and that she had been trying. Otherwise, it will be a slap in the face to those who choose differently. They really dropped the ball on this one. Big time. Big. Huge (channeling Julia Roberts) I think it's a disservice whether she changes her mind back without much of an explanation or she doesn't. Bringing this ridiculous Zack plot after this, to me, is showing disrespect to this topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, Chrismo said: Even if it's her just finding out she will have difficulty having kids it isn't funny. Zack shooting blanks is funny. Superman shooting blanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, bfm said: I think it's a disservice whether she changes her mind back without much of an explanation or she doesn't. Bringing this ridiculous Zack plot after this, to me, is showing disrespect to this topic. Well it was never established as cannon Either wanted kids. I understand you feel strongly about this subject. I just don't. That is why in 12x03 when Penny told Leonard she doesent want kids. What previous cannon am I Going off to think hmmm that is not right. The show has always sucked at continuity. But I just never saw enough evidence kids was a real option for them. Apart from anything they had a rush wedding. And never properly discussed these things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nogravitasatall Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, chucky said: Superman shooting blanks A must read - the essay “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex”. Larry Niven, 1969. Even the blanks would be dangerous. Google finds it. It’s funny serious. One for Sheldon’s salon-style discussion. Also, I’m on the side of the late arrival of the no kids declaration as being devastating. Up front it would have been fine, but being a one-sided decision delivered so long after even their ridiculously long engagement and prior dalliance , pretty sucky. Not good form. Life changing for Leonard. Major bummer for the character. Sure it’s choice, but it wasn’t made mutually. Bad creatives, bad. And... Happy New Year to all! It’s 2019 now here. cheers Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, luminous said: Sorry, can't go that far saying it was an amazing year! 6 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said: Also, I’m on the side of the late arrival of the no kids declaration as being devastating. Up front it would have been fine, but being a one-sided decision delivered so long after even their ridiculously long engagement and prior dalliance , pretty sucky. Not good form. Life changing for Leonard. Major bummer for the character. Sure it’s choice, but it wasn’t made mutually. Bad creatives, bad. Totally agree!! 8 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said: A must read - the essay “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex”. Larry Niven, 1969. Even the blanks would be dangerous. Google finds it. It’s funny serious. One for Sheldon’s salon-style discussion. Superman shooting blanks was a half shot at Zack since he was superman of the gang! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 51 minutes ago, 3ku11 said: Please tell me when Penny ever gave the impression she seriously wanted the kids? im not convinced. And its something Leonard half wanted most of the series. In any case this idea of Penny having a medical problem. And being deceitful in not telling Leonard. IS Spurvulus, as that does not seem the case. If that was always the plan. Putting Penny under a bus. But does not seem the case. SO its a pointless discussion really. But Bernadette and Sheldon stated they didn’t want kids. They waited till season 12 to tell the viewer that Penny didn’t want kids. Seems to me to be even worse than Penny sleeping with Raj and Leonard kissing Mandy. It seems obvious to me that Zack shooting blanks is a way of bringing the subject back up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfm Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 50 minutes ago, luminous said: How sad that two of these pictures were posted on honor of people who died this year 1 minute ago, Chrismo said: But Bernadette and Sheldon stated they didn’t want kids. They waited till season 12 to tell the viewer that Penny didn’t want kids. Seems to me to be even worse than Penny sleeping with Raj and Leonard kissing Mandy. It seems obvious to me that Zack shooting blanks is a way of bringing the subject back up. Actually Sheldon has been wanting kids for a long time now. Perhaps not for the "right" reasons, but the character wants to have kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, bfm said: How sad that two of these pictures were posted on honor of people who died this year Actually Sheldon has been wanting kids for a long time now. Perhaps not for the "right" reasons, but the character wants to have kids. His characters has flipped on this although I can’t take seriously him wanting 15 kids. At best he wanted them after having coitus for the first time which wasn’t that long ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, Chrismo said: His characters has flipped on this although I can’t take seriously him wanting 15 kids. At best he wanted them after having coitus for the first time which wasn’t that long ago I don't think Sheldon knows what he wants! The writers haven't made up their minds yet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Chrismo said: But Bernadette and Sheldon stated they didn’t want kids. They waited till season 12 to tell the viewer that Penny didn’t want kids. Seems to me to be even worse than Penny sleeping with Raj and Leonard kissing Mandy. It seems obvious to me that Zack shooting blanks is a way of bringing the subject back up. Bernadette never wanted kids. And changed her mind. So I dont think its that implausible to suggest Penny won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 3ku11 said: Bernadette never wanted kids. And changed her mind. So I dont think its that implausible to suggest Penny won't. She could change her mind. Though many people liked the idea of her stating she didn’t want kids. It was relatable to couples who chose to be childless. I imagine some backlash if that changes. Bernadette immediately stated she didn’t want kids. Penny on the other hand and plenty of chances to state she didn’t want kids. She never did until this season. I think that is a major reason people are now upset. Edited January 1, 2019 by Chrismo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Chrismo said: Penny on the other hand and plenty of chances to state she didn’t want kids. She never did until this season. I think that is a major reason people are now upset. I agree that she had plenty of time to tell Leonard this important bit of information! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 28 minutes ago, chucky said: 1 hour ago, Chrismo said: Penny on the other hand and plenty of chances to state she didn’t want kids. She never did until this season. I think that is a major reason people are now upset. I agree that she had plenty of time to tell Leonard this important bit of information! It seems to take Penny a long time to decide what she wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, djsurrey said: It seems to take Penny a long time to decide what she wants. It takes longer time for her to share those decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, chucky said: It takes longer time for her to share those decisions. Based on what? I think it took a long time to agree to marry Leonard. Not a long time to let him know. I'm thinking it is the same regarding having children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, djsurrey said: Based on what? I think it took a long time to agree to marry Leonard. Not a long time to let him know. I'm thinking it is the same regarding having children. Based on how I see it. You can agree or disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sah Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Jonny said: Just like this perception by some on here of Leonard being tough and not at all Whiney I never saw Penny having this strong maternal instinct, a shrug and ‘Yeah Sure’ someday wasn’t a black and white indicator to me that Penny was really into the idea of having children. It’s why her decision earlier in the season wasn’t all that shocking to me IMO because I hadn’t seen enough to form an opinion previously. I guess some might say it’s PC, but it’s a real life thing and becoming increasingly common. In this day and age having children isn’t the only natural life progression for a woman (it used to be for thousands of years). We have moved on as a culture, women get a lot more career opportunities and other things and interests that might be more appealing to them personally. In this modern age women who don’t want all that ago that women were criticised for having that position and it’s a sign of how far we have come and advanced as a society that has now changed and for the better. My Christmas dinner with my family suggests otherwise lol...but I agree completely. 12 hours ago, Mario D. said: What I am interested to see is her explanation of suddenly not wanting children and obviously to see how she reveals that she may be pregnant I am not sure she ever wanted kids but was afraid to tell Leonard. On 12/30/2018 at 7:27 PM, Die Zimtzicke said: Not at all. There were less in 3-7 but there were still some there so I would not call it out of character. I agree it got worse after seven and I like how you worded your post. The fact is there is no in or out of character with these writers as I see it because they are so inconsistent, so I try never to use the term in character at all. If I am remembering correctly, it was Penny who told Sheldon he could stay in the apartment when Leonard talked about him first leaving. So since she wanted him to stay why would Leonard think it bothers her to have him around? And Amy after, as stated by Penny, is Penny's best friend. It bothers some of the fans to see them walking in, but I really don't see a ton of evidence that it bothers Penny. Occasionally, something is flippantly said, but she does not complain about it nearly as much as some people apparently think she should. Other characters have done it. Just not regulars. Leslie and Barry have done it well, and I can think of a few other instances. It happens in every sitcom... 5 hours ago, chucky said: I don't think Sheldon knows what he wants! The writers haven't made up their minds yet! Yes. He does want kids...he has always wanted them and will have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 9 hours ago, hokie3457 said: Yes! The two characters you would least imagine having kids (Bernadette having repeatedly said she did not care for children; Sheldon being repulsed by anything having to do with them--noisy, messy, loud) ar Yea Sheldon always wanted kids. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sah Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chrismo said: Yea Sheldon always wanted kids. LOL You need to go back and rewatch seasons 4 through current. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sah said: You need to go back and rewatch seasons 4 through current. So ignore season 1-3. Oh I forgot the show didn’t exist then apparently Edited January 1, 2019 by Chrismo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 Sheldon has always given the impression he wants kids. His dislike of changed schedules, change in general, his dislike of germs and messes, loud noises, etc, gives the impression he wouldn't want to take care of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) Happy New Years to you all! Edited January 1, 2019 by vonmar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, vonmar said: Happy New Years to you all! And to you vonmar. Hope you have a happy and healthy 2019. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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