[Spoilers] Season 12 Discussion Thread

[Tensor]

Scene 11 Sheldon barges into Siebert's office, telling him what the other scientists are doing, and objecting to them trying to get rid of Amy.  Siebert says he agrees and Caltech will fight to get Amy on the Nobel committee.  Sheldon stops short, says he was expecting more pushback.  Siebert says his job is to take care of Sheldon's academic and personal needs.  "Huh," says Sheldon.  What do I do with all this nervous energy.   Siebert says they have a brand new weight center, go there to work it off.    Sheldon asks, where is it?   Siebert says it's in the new gymnasium center.  Sheldon goes, Where's that?"  Siebert gets up to take him to the 

Scene 12 . Penny is walking up the stairs and she finds Bernadette sitting on the step on the second floor.  Penny asks if she's been there long, and Bernadette says, "Long enough for two of your neighbors to ask if I was lost  and needed my mommy."   Penny says she isn't going to do the job.   Bernadette says no problem, she found another salesperson  (I don't remember the name, lets call her Peggy) to do the job.  Penny is upset, because that woman has been stealing her yogurt.  Bernadette says she had to pick her, since Penny didn't want to do the job and besides Peggy is smart because she has a masters. Penny says that she is smarter than Peggy, because she can read Penny on the yogurt.   Bernadette says she needed someone who could handle the job, be tough and she didn't want to press Penny, since she didn't want to do it.  Penny says it's not that she doesn't want to do it, she's just nervous about doing it....Hey, wait a minute, I know what you're doing.  Bernadette goes "Is it working?"  Penny goes "Yessssss" and then turned to go up the steps.  Bernadette says " does this mean I'll see you Monday?"  penny says "Yesssssss" as she turns the corner of the staircase.   Bernadette snickers, and says, "I could get her pregnant if I wanted to."  

 

Tag Scene Pre taped . Penny has just completed her presentation to the salespeople working for her.  As she passed out the folders with all the information in them.  She says they have to learn all the information by tomorrow, and one salesman, Peggy, says no one can learn all of the info overnight, besides, do you know everything that's in there?  Penny give her a withering look and says, "Do you want to go head to head on this, the winner get the yogurt in the fridge."  The other woman looks away, with Bernadette smiling.  Then Penny says go ahead and go, learn it.  They are still milling around and Penny yells, "I said go learn this, now and everyone be back her in the morning."  The other salesmen run off and Bernadette walks up to congratulate Penny and ask, "do you really know all the data in the packet?"  Penny start talking to Bernadette in the same tone of voice she yelled at the other salesman.  Bernadette says, stop, that tone doesn't work on me."  Penny goes, "yeah, I know, sorry."  

 

Ok, that's it for the taping.  I may wait until tomorrow to give you the rest of the BTS info, I'm tired.  

[margarete]

great, thanks! actually much more than great!!!

were there any pretaped scenes, or all live?

 

btw, I didn't know these complete episode spoilers are alowed 😀

Edited January 9, 2019 by margarete
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[veejay]

@Tensor, I'm sure you had a fun time. Thank you for describing your experience report comprehensibly with all these interesting details. Unbelievable, I really appreciate that!

Cheers to Mr and Mrs Tensor with a well-deserved nightcap.

[Tensor]

Oh, yeah.  the sperm episode.    At the end, Penny comes back into the apartment.  She had talked to Amy and Bernadette and realized that Leonard may want to supply his sperm, because, as Amy says, he's a mammal and wired that way.   Penny comes back  and finds Leonard thinking about it.   She goes into the bathroom and gets the cap of a mouthwash bottle.   She says to him, "I'm giving you a sample cup."  Leonard says "That's just the top off the mouthwash."   Penny says, "I'm making a gesture, are you going to give me problems over it.   

Leonard says, are you sure you're OK with this?"  Penny doesn't say yes or no, just (paraphrased)  "You weren't included  in the decision I made about not wanting children, so I'm in no position to be included in the decision on whether or not you are going to be a donorI.   It goes to black at that point, so it's left unresolved, and we know they actors for Zack and Marisa will be back.  They'll resolve it, but just not tonight.   

It was a bit of a bash Leonard type of episode, with everyone pointing out Leonard's faults, as reasons for wondering why Zack would want Leonard as the donor.  Only Zack (and Penny once) pointing out his good qualities. (smart, kind, a really good guy).  I have to admit there was a really funny line.  Zack points out Leonard doesn't get to have sex with his wife.  Penny says, "we should stop there."  and then Zack says, "just because I slept with your wife, doesn't mean you get to sleep with mine."  and Penny says "and yet you went ahead and said it."    Zack's wife is not the smartest thing, but looks like she's a bit ahead of Zack.  

9 minutes ago, margarete said:

great, thanks! actually much more than great!!!

were there any pretaped scenes, or all live?

Yes, I put Pre taped in all the scenes that were pre taped.  

9 minutes ago, margarete said:

 

btw, I didn't know these complete episode spoilers are alowed 😀

Yep.  If you can remember, you can type it up.  

[3ku11]

13 minutes ago, Tensor said:

Oh, yeah.  the sperm episode.    At the end, Penny comes back into the apartment.  She had talked to Amy and Bernadette and realized that Leonard may want to supply his sperm, because, as Amy says, he's a mammal and wired that way.   Penny comes back  and finds Leonard thinking about it.   She goes into the bathroom and gets the cap of a mouthwash bottle.   She says to him, "I'm giving you a sample cup."  Leonard says "That's just the top off the mouthwash."   Penny says, "I'm making a gesture, are you going to give me problems over it.   

Leonard says, are you sure you're OK with this?"  Penny doesn't say yes or no, just (paraphrased)  "You weren't included  in the decision I made about not wanting children, so I'm in no position to be included in the decision on whether or not you are going to be a donorI.   It goes to black at that point, so it's left unresolved, and we know they actors for Zack and Marisa will be back.  They'll resolve it, but just not tonight.   

It was a bit of a bash Leonard type of episode, with everyone pointing out Leonard's faults, as reasons for wondering why Zack would want Leonard as the donor.  Only Zack (and Penny once) pointing out his good qualities. (smart, kind, a really good guy).  I have to admit there was a really funny line.  Zack points out Leonard doesn't get to have sex with his wife.  Penny says, "we should stop there."  and then Zack says, "just because I slept with your wife, doesn't mean you get to sleep with mine."  and Penny says "and yet you went ahead and said it."    Zack's wife is not the smartest thing, but looks like she's a bit ahead of Zack.  

Yes, I put Pre taped in all the scenes that were pre taped.  

Yep.  If you can remember, you can type it up.  

Glad they made Penny point that out.

[Tensor]

11 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Glad they made Penny point that out.

Skull, there was someone from New Zealand there tonight.  He sung a song in Maori. 

[smartandbeautiful]

1 hour ago, Tensor said:

Scene 12 Pre taped. Penny is walking up the stairs and she finds Bernadette sitting on the step on the second floor.  Penny asks if she's been there long, and Bernadette says, "Long enough for two of your neighbors to ask if I was lost  and needed my mommy."   Penny says she isn't going to do the job.   Bernadette says no problem, she found another salesperson  (I don't remember the name, lets call her Peggy) to do the job.  Penny is upset, because that woman has been stealing her yogurt.  Bernadette says she had to pick her, since Penny didn't want to do the job and besides Peggy is smart because she has a masters. Penny says that she is smarter than Peggy, because she can read Penny on the yogurt.   Bernadette says she needed someone who could handle the job, be tough and she didn't want to press Penny, since she didn't want to do it.  Penny says it's not that she doesn't want to do it, she's just nervous about doing it....Hey, wait a minute, I know what you're doing.  Bernadette goes "Is it working?"  Penny goes "Yessssss" and then turned to go up the steps.  Bernadette says " does this mean I'll see you Monday?"  penny says "Yesssssss" as she turns the corner of the staircase.   Bernadette snickers, and says, "I could get her pregnant if I wanted to."  

 

I like that a lot 😂 could that be a hint that Penny nervous about having kids, but deep down inside actually wants to have them? 

Tensor, thank you so much for the TR!! 

Edited January 9, 2019 by smartandbeautiful

[hokie3457]

1 hour ago, Tensor said:

Scene 11 Sheldon barges into Siebert's office, telling him what the other scientists are doing, and objecting to them trying to get rid of Amy.  Siebert says he agrees and Caltech will fight to get Amy on the Nobel committee.  Sheldon stops short, says he was expecting more pushback.  Siebert says his job is to take care of Sheldon's academic and personal needs.  "Huh," says Sheldon.  What do I do with all this nervous energy.   Siebert says they have a brand new weight center, go there to work it off.    Sheldon asks, where is it?   Siebert says it's in the new gymnasium center.  Sheldon goes, Where's that?"  Siebert gets up to take him to the 

Scene 12 Pre taped. Penny is walking up the stairs and she finds Bernadette sitting on the step on the second floor.  Penny asks if she's been there long, and Bernadette says, "Long enough for two of your neighbors to ask if I was lost  and needed my mommy."   Penny says she isn't going to do the job.   Bernadette says no problem, she found another salesperson  (I don't remember the name, lets call her Peggy) to do the job.  Penny is upset, because that woman has been stealing her yogurt.  Bernadette says she had to pick her, since Penny didn't want to do the job and besides Peggy is smart because she has a masters. Penny says that she is smarter than Peggy, because she can read Penny on the yogurt.   Bernadette says she needed someone who could handle the job, be tough and she didn't want to press Penny, since she didn't want to do it.  Penny says it's not that she doesn't want to do it, she's just nervous about doing it....Hey, wait a minute, I know what you're doing.  Bernadette goes "Is it working?"  Penny goes "Yessssss" and then turned to go up the steps.  Bernadette says " does this mean I'll see you Monday?"  penny says "Yesssssss" as she turns the corner of the staircase.   Bernadette snickers, and says, "I could get her pregnant if I wanted to."  

 

Tag Scene Pre taped . Penny has just completed her presentation to the salespeople working for her.  As she passed out the folders with all the information in them.  She says they have to learn all the information by tomorrow, and one salesman, Peggy, says no one can learn all of the info overnight, besides, do you know everything that's in there?  Penny give her a withering look and says, "Do you want to go head to head on this, the winner get the yogurt in the fridge."  The other woman looks away, with Bernadette smiling.  Then Penny says go ahead and go, learn it.  They are still milling around and Penny yells, "I said go learn this, now and everyone be back her in the morning."  The other salesmen run off and Bernadette walks up to congratulate Penny and ask, "do you really know all the data in the packet?"  Penny start talking to Bernadette in the same tone of voice she yelled at the other salesman.  Bernadette says, stop, that tone doesn't work on me."  Penny goes, "yeah, I know, sorry."  

 

Ok, that's it for the taping.  I may wait until tomorrow to give you the rest of the BTS info, I'm tired.  

Amazing reporting sir!

1 hour ago, veejay said:

@Tensor, I'm sure you had a fun time. Thank you for describing your experience report comprehensibly with all these interesting details. Unbelievable, I really appreciate that!

Cheers to Mr and Mrs Tensor with a well-deserved nightcap.

Cheers and salutations!!!

[Kev0821]

Thanks, @Tensor, for the very detailed report! Much appreciated! I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip and have a safe travel back home.

[margarete]

@Tensor, seems only scenes in Bernadettes office and one scene on the stairs were pretaped. Was the Bernadettes office set there at all? My last two visits it was at the right side.

My favorite stage is stairway btw.  Strange they did not record stairs scene live because both girls were there ❓

[Chrismo]

Nice report tensor. So good that I feel no need to watch the episode.

[luminous]

On 1/6/2019 at 12:36 AM, vonmar said:

On 1/7/2019 at 1:10 AM, vonmar said:

 

 

[chucky]

4 hours ago, Tensor said:

Scene 11 Sheldon barges into Siebert's office, telling him what the other scientists are doing, and objecting to them trying to get rid of Amy.  Siebert says he agrees and Caltech will fight to get Amy on the Nobel committee.  Sheldon stops short, says he was expecting more pushback.  Siebert says his job is to take care of Sheldon's academic and personal needs.  "Huh," says Sheldon.  What do I do with all this nervous energy.   Siebert says they have a brand new weight center, go there to work it off.    Sheldon asks, where is it?   Siebert says it's in the new gymnasium center.  Sheldon goes, Where's that?"  Siebert gets up to take him to the 

Scene 12 Pre taped. Penny is walking up the stairs and she finds Bernadette sitting on the step on the second floor.  Penny asks if she's been there long, and Bernadette says, "Long enough for two of your neighbors to ask if I was lost  and needed my mommy."   Penny says she isn't going to do the job.   Bernadette says no problem, she found another salesperson  (I don't remember the name, lets call her Peggy) to do the job.  Penny is upset, because that woman has been stealing her yogurt.  Bernadette says she had to pick her, since Penny didn't want to do the job and besides Peggy is smart because she has a masters. Penny says that she is smarter than Peggy, because she can read Penny on the yogurt.   Bernadette says she needed someone who could handle the job, be tough and she didn't want to press Penny, since she didn't want to do it.  Penny says it's not that she doesn't want to do it, she's just nervous about doing it....Hey, wait a minute, I know what you're doing.  Bernadette goes "Is it working?"  Penny goes "Yessssss" and then turned to go up the steps.  Bernadette says " does this mean I'll see you Monday?"  penny says "Yesssssss" as she turns the corner of the staircase.   Bernadette snickers, and says, "I could get her pregnant if I wanted to."  

 

Tag Scene Pre taped . Penny has just completed her presentation to the salespeople working for her.  As she passed out the folders with all the information in them.  She says they have to learn all the information by tomorrow, and one salesman, Peggy, says no one can learn all of the info overnight, besides, do you know everything that's in there?  Penny give her a withering look and says, "Do you want to go head to head on this, the winner get the yogurt in the fridge."  The other woman looks away, with Bernadette smiling.  Then Penny says go ahead and go, learn it.  They are still milling around and Penny yells, "I said go learn this, now and everyone be back her in the morning."  The other salesmen run off and Bernadette walks up to congratulate Penny and ask, "do you really know all the data in the packet?"  Penny start talking to Bernadette in the same tone of voice she yelled at the other salesman.  Bernadette says, stop, that tone doesn't work on me."  Penny goes, "yeah, I know, sorry."  

 

Ok, that's it for the taping.  I may wait until tomorrow to give you the rest of the BTS info, I'm tired.  

Thanks so much for the wonderful, informative taping report!  

Edited January 9, 2019 by chucky

[SRAM]

Thanks @Tensor great report.

It would be nice if they followed this up with Penny doing a fantastic job running her sales team and gets promoted to something like district manager, where she doesn’t have to go sell personally to doctors anymore, so she loves her job again.  Penny doing extremely well at work and now liking her job would be a good thing when the show ends, it would be also funny if she makes more money than Bernadette.

[chucky]

Just now, SRAM said:

Thanks @Tensor great report.

It would be nice if they followed this up with Penny doing a fantastic job running her sales team and gets promoted to something like district manager, where she doesn’t have to go sell personally to doctors anymore, so she loves her job again.  Penny doing extremely well at work and now liking her job would be a good thing when the show ends, it would be also funny if she makes more money than Bernadette.

I definitely could dig that!

[Chrismo]

4 hours ago, smartandbeautiful said:

I like that a lot 😂 could that be a hint that Penny nervous about having kids, but deep down inside actually wants to have them? 

Tensor, thank you so much for the TR!! 

I don’t think the storyline was about Bernadette’s success. I also don’t think it’s about Penny’s career. More about Penny’s fears.

[margarete]

52 minutes ago, SRAM said:

Thanks @Tensor great report.

It would be nice if they followed this up with Penny doing a fantastic job running her sales team and gets promoted to something like district manager, where she doesn’t have to go sell personally to doctors anymore, so she loves her job again.  Penny doing extremely well at work and now liking her job would be a good thing when the show ends, it would be also funny if she makes more money than Bernadette.

I think the whole point behind Pennys successful sales career is that she's a good loking blonde in the first place, or at least that is how they presented it to us.

[Chrismo]

7 minutes ago, margarete said:

I think the whole point behind Pennys successful sales career is that she's a good loking blonde in the first place, or at least that is how they presented it to us.

But that has nothing to do with this episode.

[bfm]

@Tensor your phenomenal memory never ceases to amaze me. Thank you so so much!!!

 

The episode sounds nice and funny

But is it true that only three people can be nominated for a Nobel?

And the stairs scenes has me very confused. One possible interpretation is the writers are revealing their cards, hinting Penny is nervous about having kids but it's not that she doesn't want them, and will confess when another woman is about to be having Leonard's biological child. On the other hand... when another woman having Leonard's biological child became a possibility she ended up allowing this to happen if Leonard wanted that, and repeated the decision she had made not to have children, so...maybe this is different and she really doesn't want to have kids? 

I also did not like at all the joke about manipulating Penny to get pregnant. It is wayyyyyy over the line IMO, even somewhat sinister. And now if they do the same trick to have Penny decide to have children there may be this "bitter taste" to it - did she really want it or was she manipulated into wanting it? Not a good look. I hope they edit this line out.

Edited January 9, 2019 by bfm

[smartandbeautiful]

3 minutes ago, bfm said:

@Tensor your phenomenal memory never ceases to amaze me. Thank you so so much!!!

 

The episode sounds nice and funny

But is it true that only three people can be nominated for a Nobel?

And the stairs scenes has me very confused. One possible interpretation is the writers are revealing their cards, hinting Penny is nervous about having kids but it's not that she doesn't want them, and will confess when another woman is about to be having Leonard's biological child. On the other hand... when another woman having Leonard's biological child became a possibility she ended up allowing this to happen if Leonard wanted that, and repeated the decision she had made not to have children, so...maybe this is different and she really doesn't want to have kids? 

I also did not like at all the joke about manipulating Penny to get pregnant. It is wayyyyyy over the line IMO, even somewhat sinister. And now if they do the same trick to have Penny decide to have children there may be this bitter end to it - did she really want it or was she manipulated into wanting it? Not a good look. I hope they edit this line out.

I think it's just a joke about pregnancy and no way anyone would manipulate Penny to have kids  (and I liked that joke somehow)

As for the all that sperm donor plot, I have the same doubts - it seems to me that they cemented Penny's decision about NOT having children there, so it's gonna be really hard to turn it other way round... (but I hope they will!) 

[Chrismo]

It seems to me Leonard saying are you okay with this suggests he is going to say yes to Zack and Marissa. It doesn’t appear at this point Penny’s changed her mind about kids. Lenny are in no position to have input in each other positions. As to Bernadette’s line I could get her pregnant to me that meant Penny really doesn’t know exactly what she wants. Bernadette knew she had doubts  about leading the team, it didn’t mean she wasn’t capable of doing it. Bernadette’s pregnancy line suggests Penny’s no kids line isn’t final

[bfm]

35 minutes ago, smartandbeautiful said:

I think it's just a joke about pregnancy and no way anyone would manipulate Penny to have kids  (and I liked that joke somehow)

As for the all that sperm donor plot, I have the same doubts - it seems to me that they cemented Penny's decision about NOT having children there, so it's gonna be really hard to turn it other way round... (but I hope they will!) 

I know it is a joke, I just think it is over the line...

[joyceraye]

2 hours ago, Chrismo said:

Nice report tensor. So good that I feel no need to watch the episode.

Sometimes the episodes, once they are edited, are not as funny as the taping reports. I love TRs. 

[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, margarete said:

I think the whole point behind Penny's successful sales career is that she's a good looking blonde in the first place, or at least that is how they presented it to us.

Yes, that's how they had Penny presenting it, as if she was still serving cheesecake and getting tips because of drinks spilled on her blouse. She used tricks such as putting her engagement ring on the other hand and turning it round. Later she disliked that side of the job and started to take it a little more seriously, such as being proud of getting a better area and then wanting a promotion. It's time for her to use her acting ability to keep her team in order. Some other younger, blonde can fill her old,dizzy shoes.

[Chrismo]

48 minutes ago, smartandbeautiful said:

I think it's just a joke about pregnancy and no way anyone would manipulate Penny to have kids  (and I liked that joke somehow)

As for the all that sperm donor plot, I have the same doubts - it seems to me that they cemented Penny's decision about NOT having children there, so it's gonna be really hard to turn it other way round... (but I hope they will!) 

I took it as a joke too. This episode itself was showing Penny changing her mind. I don’t buy that she’s okay with Leonard donating his sperm. She didn’t answer his question about that. To me it didn’t cement no kids. If it was cemented, like in the 3rd episode, there would be no point for this storyline. JMO but Zack and Marissa’s next appearance(s) will be the key to what happens in this storyline.