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51 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

I still think she owed it to Leonard that she was having doubts about children

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And if Penny can decide about not having children Leonard should have told her it’s not your  effing business if I donate my sperm. 

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30 minutes ago, veejay said:

As a wise man yelled it loud and clear...
"I want grandkids before I die, and I want them to grow up in a house without wheels."

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Besides telling Penny about the demise of "Moon dance", that was my favorite line from Wyatt!

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52 minutes ago, veejay said:

As a wise man yelled it loud and clear...
"I want grandkids before I die, and I want them to grow up in a house without wheels."

😉

Although he does have at least one grandchild, perhaps Penny's sister got a normal house before she disappeared into the BerBanga Triangle, you know, the place where Stephanie and Alex went.

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16 minutes ago, Swedish Chef said:

I'm guessing that Leonard's siblings has gone to the same place.

Well at least they've been mentioned, have we heard about Penny's sister since, IDK, season 7? 8? 

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3 hours ago, veejay said:

As a wise man yelled it loud and clear...
"I want grandkids before I die, and I want them to grow up in a house without wheels."

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I think parents should stay out of decisions such as this...up to Leonard and Penny. No one else.

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1 hour ago, Mario D. said:

Maybe her father is giving her advice to make her own decision and not pushing her in any direction

I agree, but we won't know for sure til we watch the finished episode!

1 hour ago, Sah said:

I think parents should stay out of decisions such as this...up to Leonard and Penny. No one else.

I believe parents should be allowed to express their opinion. No pressuring, just opinion!

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5 hours ago, Chrismo said:

And if Penny can decide about not having children Leonard should have told her it’s not your  effing business if I donate my sperm. 

Umm. She gave him a cup. She had already said she didn't care. I believe her.

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4 minutes ago, Sah said:

Umm. She gave him a cup. She had already said she didn't care. I believe her.

She gave him the cup after they had a big argument (off screen) about him donating. That was mentioned in the episode. So it wasn’t like you suggest that Leonard said he’s donating sperm and she right away said okay

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36 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

She gave him the cup after they had a big argument (off screen) about him donating. That was mentioned in the episode. So it wasn’t like you suggest that Leonard said he’s donating sperm and she right away said okay

So, so very true!

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4 hours ago, Chrismo said:

She gave him the cup after they had a big argument (off screen) about him donating. That was mentioned in the episode. So it wasn’t like you suggest that Leonard said he’s donating sperm and she right away said okay

Did she give him a cup? Yes. Did she say she didn't care? Yes. I was not wrong. And secondly, when did I mention any sort of timeline when she did this?

7 hours ago, Chrismo said:

Where was Leonard's input? Kind of sad really

Having kids is ultimately Penny's decision. Her body. She probably didn't know how to break the news to him that she didn't want kids. 

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Having kids is ultimately Penny's decision. Her body. She probably didn't know how to break the news to him that she didn't want kids. 
So that makes it ok for her not to tell Leonard she should have told him before they got married about her doubts

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45 minutes ago, Sah said:

Did she give him a cup? Yes. Did she say she didn't care? Yes. I was not wrong. And secondly, when did I mention any sort of timeline when she did this?

Having kids is ultimately Penny's decision. Her body. She probably didn't know how to break the news to him that she didn't want kids. 

You are correct on those two questions. The thing was she didn’t come to that conclusion right away. She tried talking to the girls about it but by the discussion they had they didn’t take her side. If she had taken that point of view at the beginning there would of been no discussion at the end. Ultimately she did.. And if its ultimately her decision to have a baby it seems to me Leonard could hook up with any woman to have his baby. Donating sperm or the ultimate sexual act

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1 hour ago, legacy99 said:

So that makes it ok for her not to tell Leonard she should have told him before they got married about her doubts

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She may not have realized what she wanted yet...

47 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

You are correct on those two questions. The thing was she didn’t come to that conclusion right away. She tried talking to the girls about it but by the discussion they had they didn’t take her side. If she had taken that point of view at the beginning there would of been no discussion at the end. Ultimately she did.. And if its ultimately her decision to have a baby it seems to me Leonard could hook up with any woman to have his baby. Donating sperm or the ultimate sexual act

Up to him...

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8 hours ago, Sah said:

Umm. She gave him a cup. She had already said she didn't care. I believe her.

Actually she didn't say she didn't care. She said she doesn't know if she's okay with it, but she gave up being part of the decision because, as she said, she didn't include Leonard in her decision not to have kids. 

I think she has every right no to be okay with this. Come on! She may not want kids but her husband having a biological child with someone else (and that child being her ex's), it makes absolute sense it will bother her! Is she allowed to prevent him from doing that? Hmm not really, ultimately it's his sperm. But is she alllowed to be upset or at least uncomfortable about it? IMO, absolutely.

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2 hours ago, Chrismo said:

You are correct on those two questions. The thing was she didn’t come to that conclusion right away. She tried talking to the girls about it but by the discussion they had they didn’t take her side. If she had taken that point of view at the beginning there would of been no discussion at the end. Ultimately she did.. And if its ultimately her decision to have a baby it seems to me Leonard could hook up with any woman to have his baby. Donating sperm or the ultimate sexual act

Intriguing. Leonard wants a child (that will have his DNA),  so bad that he decides to cheat on Penny and  father child out of wedlock.   I sure Penny would be very understanding. 

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7 hours ago, Chrismo said:

You are correct on those two questions. The thing was she didn’t come to that conclusion right away. She tried talking to the girls about it but by the discussion they had they didn’t take her side. If she had taken that point of view at the beginning there would of been no discussion at the end. Ultimately she did.. And if its ultimately her decision to have a baby it seems to me Leonard could hook up with any woman to have his baby. Donating sperm or the ultimate sexual act

I wouldn't go that far, especially if they are married! Donating is his decision as having kids is hers. She should have told him about her doubts in having kids before marriage, instead of saying she wanted them someday! Saying she wants them someday is the complete opposite of don't want kids!

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