[Spoilers] Season 12 Discussion Thread

[joyceraye]

2 hours ago, Mario D. said:

You know you are making me think back now on the episode "Locomotion Reverberation" when the girls went out and were talking in the car and Penny I think felt a little jealous of Bernadette having a career, a house, and a baby while she thought that "Leonard and I have been married two years and we are no further along than when we were dating"   Wasn't she thinking family then?  Why didn't they pursue this theory?

I'm pretty sure she was thinking family. Now she's thought and she's decided.

[ShamyScience]

I won't be surprised if Shamy ends up living close to Howardette. Maybe their neighbour is still selling their home?

[joyceraye]

1 hour ago, ShamyScience said:

I won't be surprised if Shamy ends up living close to Howardette. Maybe their neighbour is still selling their home?

They sold it and the new occupants were a nuisance. Perhaps they decided to move elsewhere since Sheldon reported them.

[chucky]

56 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

They sold it and the new occupants were a nuisance. Perhaps they decided to move elsewhere since Sheldon reported them.

I believe he has his eyes on going back to 4A!

[Sah]

3 hours ago, ShamyScience said:

I won't be surprised if Shamy ends up living close to Howardette. Maybe their neighbour is still selling their home?

That would be wonderful! But didn't new neighbors build that deck over looking Howard's hot tub? Or is that a different neighbor?

Wouldn't it be great of Howard has been secretly taking classes and now has a doctorate? That could be a cool ending for him...

[MTBigBangTheoryFan]

3 hours ago, ShamyScience said:

I won't be surprised if Shamy ends up living close to Howardette. Maybe their neighbour is still selling their home?

Bad news for Howard and Bernadette lol I rather see LEnny move next door to Howardette 

Edited March 9, 2019 by MTBigBangTheoryFan

[chucky]

1 hour ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Bad news for Howard and Bernadette lol I rather see LEnny move next door to Howardette 

If shamy moved next door, Howard and Bernadette would put their house up for sale!

[MsGreentea]

1 P&L two potentially good parents who will not have a child because Penny has  suddenly decided she doesn’t want to  - even though she knows Leonard really does want a child.  

2  H&B a woman who adamently did not want a child but agreed to have them only if her husband would agree to be the primary caregiver - she had two children and he provides little help and they seem to have forgotten the agreement   

3. Amy &Sheldon a socially awkward woman who will need a lot of support raising children —yet will parent a child with a man who is a male  Beverly Hofstedter.  

 

[joyceraye]

On 3/9/2019 at 12:49 AM, Itwasdestined said:

I know a lot don’t watch Young Sheldon and some refuse to accept it as part of BBT canon but it’s interesting that Holland ( my interpretation ) in the Radloff interview intimated that the episode of YS that revealed he and Amy had kids in the future influenced their thinking for the BBT ending
“I can't answer this exactly, but I will say that having that revealed on Young Sheldon was a big moment for our series. I think it's part of our journey to end Sheldon in a spot where that future is possible."

With that in my mind, I find it interesting to compare the Dad Sheldon Cooper describes throughout BBT and the Dad he is recalling in YS as the Narrator of that show. We focus on how much Beverley inspires his ideas on parenting and how important Mary has been seen in BBT but in YS George Cooper is an underrated influence in Sheldons life and may be more of a role model for how Sheldon sees fatherhood in the future than we think. The BBT writers even tried to convince us about George in the crossover episode when Sheldon sort of realised when he saw the video that Dad wasn’t all bad. He’s actually a decent dad in YS and since Sheldon is telling the story it is basically rewriting the canon of Sheldon’s past through his own storytelling.

Now for those who hate YS and refuse to accept its rewriting of history, this will mean absolutely nothing but for me, who quite enjoys the show, I’ll be interested now that Holland has made that comment whether Sheldon talks about his dad in a different light as he considers fatherhood at the end of Big Bang Theory. Food for thought.

 

When Sheldon is narrating his childhood we don't know how old he is, but I'd guess in his fifties since his youngest child would have to be old enough to read and understand a contract, or in his sixties if they're adults. He's obviously older when he's narrating than his father was when he died. Age gives anybody a different perspective. Once or twice he's mentioned that with hindsight he sees his father differently. He's even said he wishes he could have told him so. So far he's never mentioned how difficult a child to raise he was. 'I was a handful' said proudly when Mary visited him when he was in 4A  is the most he'll admit to. 

In TBBT, what he's never suggested  is that although they were not Beverly, either of his parents ever did anything to hold him back and what we see in YS  is them doing the best they could for all three with the resources available. Driving him all over the place to hear lectures and so on isn't something a child would appreciate or even register. If it's your own parents or godparents doing things, you don't even think of thanking them for doing what they do to encourage you. You take it for granted as your right because that's what they are for.  For many years I only remembered the one time my father wouldn't take me somewhere. Elderly and unthanked himself, Sheldon looks back on the only fatherhood model he had and is perhaps a little more appreciative.

George Senior has five more years to go, however, in which to turn to the drunkenness, thievery and adultery that twenty-something and thirty-something Sheldon will recall most.

[veejay]

3 hours ago, MsGreentea said:

1 P&L two potentially good parents who will not have a child because Penny has  suddenly decided she doesn’t want to  - even though she knows Leonard really does want a child.  

2  H&B a woman who adamently did not want a child but agreed to have them only if her husband would agree to be the primary caregiver - she had two children and he provides little help and they seem to have forgotten the agreement   

3. Amy &Sheldon a socially awkward woman who will need a lot of support raising children —yet will parent a child with a man who is a male  Beverly Hofstedter. 

Thank you!

[veejay]

Big Bang Theory: (SPOILER) May Already Be Pregnant

screenrant.com

"...It's no secret that a big chunk of The Big Bang Theory fan community isn't sold on Young Sheldon just yet, as they feel like it's rewriting much of the established canon pertaining to the titular character. However, if they're able to further establish that the two shows inhabit the same reality, perhaps they can win the doubters over.

Assuming that Amy is indeed pregnant, this makes it even more interesting to see how The Big Bang Theory will resolve Penny and Howard's (Johnny Galecki) baby-dilemma. The show finally put the Hofstadters on the same page about having kids a couple of episodes ago, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that they'll pull a surprise reveal that Penny might also be pregnant."

Edited March 10, 2019 by veejay

[3ku11]

4 minutes ago, veejay said:

Big Bang Theory:

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May Already Be Pregnant

screenrant.com

"...It's no secret that a big chunk of The Big Bang Theory fan community isn't sold on Young Sheldon just yet, as they feel like it's rewriting much of the established canon pertaining to the titular character. However, if they're able to further establish that the two shows inhabit the same reality, perhaps they can win the doubters over.

Assuming that Amy is indeed pregnant, this makes it even more interesting to see how The Big Bang Theory will resolve Penny and Howard's (Johnny Galecki) baby-dilemma. The show finally put the Hofstadters on the same page about having kids a couple of episodes ago, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that they'll pull a surprise reveal that Penny might also be pregnant."

Penny and Howard are endgame I knew it. 

[veejay]

7 minutes ago, 3ku11 said:

Penny and Howard are endgame I knew it. 

Oh! Is he pregnant too? 😁

[chucky]

8 hours ago, MsGreentea said:

et will parent a child with a man who is a male  Beverly Hofstadter.  

I've thought that very same thing over the years. That thought was enforced by this past episode. Beverly running experiments on a young Leonard and Sheldon enjoying doing experiments on kids as well.

Edited March 10, 2019 by chucky

[Die Zimtzicke]

21 hours ago, Mario D. said:

Wasn't she thinking family then?  Why didn't they pursue this theory?

We don't know what she was thinking because she didn't specify. It could well have been a house or career. Both have been mentioned just as many times as kids.

11 hours ago, MsGreentea said:

Amy &Sheldon a socially awkward woman who will need a lot of support raising children —yet will parent a child with a man who is a male  Beverly Hofstedter.

I don't know that she will need a lot of support raising children. Just the normal amount most women get. She seems to have it together more a lot of the time than she used to. As for Beverly, Beverly loves Sheldon and he loves her. Amy can't see that as a bad thing, I would hope. She may be puzzled by how Beverly treats Leonard, but that has nothing to do with how Beverly treats Sheldon. She treats Sheldon very well.

[Mario D.]

1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

We don't know what she was thinking because she didn't specify. It could well have been a house or career. Both have been mentioned just as many times as kids.

I don't know that she will need a lot of support raising children. Just the normal amount most women get. She seems to have it together more a lot of the time than she used to. As for Beverly, Beverly loves Sheldon and he loves her. Amy can't see that as a bad thing, I would hope. She may be puzzled by how Beverly treats Leonard, but that has nothing to do with how Beverly treats Sheldon. She treats Sheldon very well.

Yes Beverly treats Sheldon better than her own son........a very poor example of what a mother should be

[Mario D.]

9 hours ago, veejay said:

Big Bang Theory: (SPOILER) May Already Be Pregnant

screenrant.com

"...It's no secret that a big chunk of The Big Bang Theory fan community isn't sold on Young Sheldon just yet, as they feel like it's rewriting much of the established canon pertaining to the titular character. However, if they're able to further establish that the two shows inhabit the same reality, perhaps they can win the doubters over.

Assuming that Amy is indeed pregnant, this makes it even more interesting to see how The Big Bang Theory will resolve Penny and Howard's (Johnny Galecki) baby-dilemma. The show finally put the Hofstadters on the same page about having kids a couple of episodes ago, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that they'll pull a surprise reveal that Penny might also be pregnant."

If TBBT ends this way with both Amy and Penny pregnant would be ok with me.  But if they write it as only Amy being pregnant how would Penny and Leonard feel about not having kids?  To have someone like Sheldon be a father first when he never considered a woman in his realm of worldly things would just be a decisive kick in the gut for Leonard and I imagine Penny would feel even guiltier than she already does.

[Jonny]

45 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

If TBBT ends this way with both Amy and Penny pregnant would be ok with me.  But if they write it as only Amy being pregnant how would Penny and Leonard feel about not having kids?  To have someone like Sheldon be a father first when he never considered a woman in his realm of worldly things would just be a decisive kick in the gut for Leonard and I imagine Penny would feel even guiltier than she already does.

Leonard and Penny will be happy for them, if Leonard becomes jealous then he needs to grow the f up or have a heart-to-heart discussion with his wife about their future/future plans.

Does every character or relationship based milestone need to be a contest on who got their first? Or in this case second?

Edited March 10, 2019 by Jonny

[chucky]

34 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

If TBBT ends this way with both Amy and Penny pregnant would be ok with me.  But if they write it as only Amy being pregnant how would Penny and Leonard feel about not having kids?  To have someone like Sheldon be a father first when he never considered a woman in his realm of worldly things would just be a decisive kick in the gut for Leonard and I imagine Penny would feel even guiltier than she already does.

It would be a kick in the gut and a slap in the face!

[joyceraye]

1 minute ago, chucky said:

It would be a kick in the gut and a slap in the face!

Yes he does get jealous doesn't he.

[chucky]

8 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Leonard is jealous then he needs to grow the f up

Leonard doesn't need to grow up. Sheldon needs to grow up. He's been the baby since episode 1/Season 1!

Edited March 10, 2019 by chucky

[Chrismo]

1 minute ago, joyceraye said:

Yes he does get jealous doesn't he.

And his ex roommate never did?

9 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Leonard and Penny will be happy for them, if Leonard is jealous then he needs to grow the f up or have a heart-to-heart discussion with his wife about their future/future plans.

Does every character or relationship based milestone need to be a contest on who got their first? Or in this case second?

That’s easy to say from the perspective of a non Lenny fan.

[chucky]

2 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Yes he does get jealous doesn't he.

Not since he's been with Penny.

[joyceraye]

2 minutes ago, chucky said:

Not since he's been with Penny.

You must have missed or dismissed episode 1203.

[Sah]

6 hours ago, chucky said:

I've thought that very same thing over the years. That thought was enforced by this past episode. Beverly running experiments on a young Leonard and Sheldon enjoying doing experiments on kids as well.

Leonard participated as well. Raj and Howard participated.