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5 hours ago, luminous said:

Admitably the shows writing has really taken a nose dive over the years. But these characters have been in my life since I Was 19. I remember coming home after a tough year in 2008, studying away. And being in my room, and this show The Big Bang Theory came on for the very first time in NZ. I Was like Bridgett! LOL. I fell in love with the shows refreshing breakdown of sitcom tropes. So be bittersweet when the show ends. Its funny I grew up with Friends in the 90s, when I was still in Primary School lol. Never thought another Generational Sitcom would come along like TBBT did. 

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On ‎3‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 10:04 AM, Die Zimtzicke said:

I don't know that she will need a lot of support raising children. Just the normal amount most women get. She seems to have it together more a lot of the time than she used to. As for Beverly, Beverly loves Sheldon and he loves her. Amy can't see that as a bad thing, I would hope. She may be puzzled by how Beverly treats Leonard, but that has nothing to do with how Beverly treats Sheldon. She treats Sheldon very well.

In earlier canon Amy was shown as having a really bad relationship with her mother (sin closet I believe) so it's reasonable to assume she has some unresolved issues as far as mothering goes.

In regards to Beverly she is , IMO, a piece of shit of a mother, so I don't know what Amy, or anybody else for that matter, could ever learn from her.

On ‎3‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 1:37 PM, Sah said:

I disagree with the concept of having a child solely because your spouse wants a child. This could lead to resentment, anger and divorce. Children are not a requirement for a successful, happy, life together.

I agree with you on this one. However, not having a child because ONE of the couple doesn't want to, can lead to resentment as well.

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1 hour ago, Carlos said:

n regards to Beverly she is , IMO, a piece of shit of a mother, so I don't know what Amy, or anybody else for that matter, could ever learn from her.

I agree with your description of Beverly. The only thing to be learned from her is how not to be a mother!

6 hours ago, luminous said:

All I can say is Thank God for Syndication!

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1 hour ago, Carlos said:

In earlier canon Amy was shown as having a really bad relationship with her mother (sin closet I believe) so it's reasonable to assume she has some unresolved issues as far as mothering goes.

In regards to Beverly she is , IMO, a piece of shit of a mother, so I don't know what Amy, or anybody else for that matter, could ever learn from her.

I agree with you on this one. However, not having a child because ONE of the couple doesn't want to, can lead to resentment as well.

So what should they do if Penny does NOT change her mind? Should Leonard stay or go? Is keeping Penny worth not having kids? If they stayed together could they both be happy with the outcome without resentment or anger? Who would you have give in. Penny or Leonard. Both have different feelings about kids. Either way someone loses and must give in. Are you obligated to have a child because your spouse wants one?

Perhaps Leonard should walk away from the marriage and find someone who really wants kids. He may not love the new woman as much as Penny, but he gets children in the end.

Amy will be a great mom. She has never displayed any reason to believe she would be abusive or uncaring. 

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1 hour ago, Sah said:

So what should they do if Penny does NOT change her mind? Should Leonard stay or go? Is keeping Penny worth not having kids? If they stayed together could they both be happy with the outcome without resentment or anger? Who would you have give in. Penny or Leonard. Both have different feelings about kids. Either way someone loses and must give in. Are you obligated to have a child because your spouse wants one?

Perhaps Leonard should walk away from the marriage and find someone who really wants kids. He may not love the new woman as much as Penny, but he gets children in the end.

Amy will be a great mom. She has never displayed any reason to believe she would be abusive or uncaring. 

It happens in real life, people who do love each other and in loving relationships have split over kids.

It’s a tricky situation, something that might change over time on either side (Penny may want kids at some point, Leonard may come to the conclusion he can live without having them). Or they may just carry on as they are sort of in between but never really discuss the subject which could lead to resentment.

I still think they will ultimately have children.

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4 hours ago, Sah said:

Perhaps Leonard should walk away from the marriage and find someone who really wants kids. He may not love the new woman as much as Penny, but he gets children in the end.

Except he's nearly 40. He might find someone compatible in her mid-thirties who had no children already and was willing and capable. On the other hand he might not. It would be a big gamble.

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21 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Except he's nearly 40. He might find someone compatible in her mid-thirties who had no children already and was willing and capable. On the other hand he might not. It would be a big gamble.

It all depends on how badly he wants his own kids on whether the gamble is worth taking or not!

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I find it sad that so much time is spent discussing such a serious issue as leaving someone because you want kids and they don’t and the crushing pressure brought on by this conflict on a much loved couple on a sitcom fan forum. Where did the laughter go?

 

 

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6 hours ago, Sah said:

So what should they do if Penny does NOT change her mind? Should Leonard stay or go? Is keeping Penny worth not having kids? If they stayed together could they both be happy with the outcome without resentment or anger? Who would you have give in. Penny or Leonard. Both have different feelings about kids. Either way someone loses and must give in. Are you obligated to have a child because your spouse wants one?

This reminds me of a friend, a guy my age, so he was in his 50's back when all this went down. He married again after his first wife died, a much younger woman, and made it clear from the get go (Unlike Penny) that he didn't want kids. She was much younger and agreed to this but after a couple of years she got the idea he was probably going to go first and she wanted to have a family. She didn't want to wind up alone. He was furious that she was stirring up an issue that he thought had already been settled, and her resentment manifested itself in every part of their lives from the bedroom to their social life. The marriage did not survive. It is not the same thing as the TV situation obviously, but it just goes to show resentment CAN fester. Now, I think the showrunners think Leonard and Penny are fine the way they are and will continue to be fine the way they are. I don't think they give a lot of thought to anything ever changing for them. I think they just pulled this no kids thing out so they wouldn't have to deal with questions about kids, but in doing so sparked even more speculation about kids. This may well surprise them.

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27 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

I find it sad that so much time is spent discussing such a serious issue as leaving someone because you want kids and they don’t and the crushing pressure brought on by this conflict on a much loved couple on a sitcom fan forum. Where did the laughter go?

A valid question!
The writers could have developed the characters and made them way more compatible and interesting. But they're more after cheap laughs.

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3 hours ago, chucky said:

It all depends on how badly he wants his own kids on whether the gamble is worth taking or not!

JMO where Leonard should of taken the gamble was when Penny was trying to sabotage his donation. To me the story shouldn’t of ended with the call to Zack telling him he changed his mind and saying no to donating. JMO he should got to the point of actually donating. What would Penny have done at that point?

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19 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

JMO where Leonard should of taken the gamble was when Penny was trying to sabotage his donation. To me the story shouldn’t of ended with the call to Zack telling him he changed his mind and saying no to donating. JMO he should got to the point of actually donating. What would Penny have done at that point?

Yeah, he should have waited til he left to donate to get her reaction.

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On 3/10/2019 at 1:26 PM, chucky said:

Leonard doesn't need to grow up. Sheldon needs to grow up. He's been the baby since episode 1/Season 1!

True and the baby always wins!!

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1 minute ago, Mario D. said:

True and the baby always wins!!

The baby should have had his butt kicked several times!

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15 hours ago, luminous said:

they're obviously keeping it very short between taping and air dates of the last episode ... to prevent spoilers? 🤪

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3 hours ago, Itwasdestined said:

I find it sad that so much time is spent discussing such a serious issue as leaving someone because you want kids and they don’t and the crushing pressure brought on by this conflict on a much loved couple on a sitcom fan forum. Where did the laughter go?

 

 

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Exactly how I feel.  Writing that no-baby episode and then adding to it with the sperm donation has truly created an uneasy situation for the Hofstadters. I really am anxious to see how they get themselves out of this predicament. Penny's explanation of why she does not want children has IMO become a very crucial step in their story ending. 

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41 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

True and the baby always wins!!

Not always. He sure didn't win in the Bill Gates episode or the episode when Bert won that Mc Arthur Grant Award!  :sungum:

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Happy Taping Day Everyone.

I will be buying that TVGuide for sure. First one I will be buying in a long time. I wonder if the people at TV Guide are Lenny Fans?

I would have thought that they would have gone with the whole cast? But nevertheless I like the cover!

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14 minutes ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Happy Taping Day Everyone.

I will be buying that TVGuide for sure. First one I will be buying in a long time. I wonder if the people at TV Guide are Lenny Fans?

I would have thought that they would have gone with the whole cast? But nevertheless I like the cover!

In my younger years, I used to save the TVGuide, much to my mother's (and later my wife's) dismay.  We no longer receive it or pick it up at the store, but I will probably make an exception here!  (oh, and I got rid of all the old "Guides"!!!)

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2 hours ago, chucky said:

Not always. He sure didn't win in the Bill Gates episode or the episode when Bert won that Mc Arthur Grant Award!  :sungum:

If Sheldon gets a Nobel prize, then I'm guessing that he doesn't cares about Bert's award anymore.

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12 minutes ago, Swedish Chef said:

If Sheldon gets a Nobel prize, then I'm guessing that he doesn't cares about Bert's award anymore.

Maybe so, but he probably still has the internal scars from slipping and falling head first into the water cooler. If he doesn't remember, I'm betting Leonard will show him the pictures of the aftermath! But, with Sheldon's fancy dancy memory, I believe deep down he will always remember that!

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