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10 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

While true that doesn’t make exciting tv. Would there be any reason to be in the last couple episodes?

Don't understand the question, sorry. Do you mean in episodes with Raj and Anu, if they are the last couple ?

2 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Yep pin this lol. Particularly on the baby thing. 

If Shamy get pregnant and a Nobel prize. I think that would be just overkill. 

I'm sure many Nobel prizewinners  have children. I wouldn't call that overkill. Pierre and Marie Curie shared a Nobel prize as a couple and had a baby who grew up and won a Nobel prize herself.

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15 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Don't understand the question, sorry. Do you mean in episodes with Raj and Anu, if they are the last couple ?

I'm sure many Nobel prizewinners  have children. I wouldn't call that overkill. Pierre and Marie Curie shared a Nobel prize as a couple and had a baby who grew up and won a Nobel prize herself.

I think I can answer both questions. Shamy has a Nobel Prize/possible Pregnancy storyline. Raj has the possible wedding/ non wedding storylines. I think the Howard/Bernadette story is over. House babies there done. As I said earlier what’s Lennies ending. Penny getting a job? Nice but as a couple not a big deal. I think 3kull point that two storylines for Shamy and nothing for Lenny is overkill in the eyes of a Lenny fan.

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6 hours ago, Itwasdestined said:

I’m not gonna lose sleep over it or complaining incessantly but I just find it overkill ( not that either is confirmed yet ) to have Shamy ending with BOTH the Nobel AND the baby IN THE SHOW.

And my feelings just go back the beginning of each character’s journey in the show. It’s got nothing to do with Ship Jealousy cos that’s just not me.

I look at it this way.

The 5 principal characters from day one
Sheldon ( the original recipe) - it was all about winning a Nobel or being an incredibly successful scientist with all the accolades. To be fair the polarising guy, he’s been pulled through the ringer from go to whoa on this front. The monopole experiment that he thought was a winner found to be a hoax caused by his buddies, the new element that was much celebrated briefly before being found out as a fluke and not legit, losing hope in string theory then not getting anywhere with dark matter, the Shelnard paper and gyroscope that got killed of by military..... and now his last chance with the Super asymmetry in the balance with the two other physicists....... Fake science or not, I don’t begrudge him finally achieving his Nobel goal to complete his scientist journey on the show.

Leonard - from day one he wanted Penny and with some misfires and restarts he got her. Mission accomplished there for that part of his journey that was arrived at a long time ago ( contributing factor to him being downgraded in recent scenes - his main journey ended 4 years ago). Now his other goal was probably to be respected in his field. Despite the constant belittling by his buddy, he’s had small wins but they too have been cut short. That part of his journey is unfinished and doesn’t seem to be in the writers’ minds unless something happens out of the blue. I guess his other part of the journey is gaining the respect of Beverly. There’s been tiny wins there last couple of years, wondering if that will be achieved with Beranski saying she’s in the finale. Controversially I’m not counting smart and beautiful babies as a series long goal. It might have been day one and a few passing references but it wasn’t massive IMHO.

Penny - came to LA for a successful career - in acting. Ends with a successful career - in sales and marketing ( sort of actingemoji16.png). Count that as a win. Others won’t.
Wanted a man that would finally treat her well. Got him in Leonard ( ignoring boat kiss BS and the odd bad episode). Journey two complete. We might see her as an underdeveloped character even after 12 years but in the writers mind when they talk about giving each character a happy ending for their journey, they’re going to justify Penny as a success.

Howard - at the start, he just wanted to “get laid” then loved. He got his girl early and it kept getting better. He also wanted kids before his marriage and got them. He wanted to be successful in his job. He got his work on the space station and went there as an astronaut on top of working for Hawking. Despite it ending badly, his gyroscope project was just a bonus add on to his journey completed. Like Leonard he reached his goal so early in the twelve years the writers started to mess around with him by reverting him back to a man child dominated by the woman in his life, Mrs W replaced by Bernie. Deserved better; one of my favourites.

Raj - just a shambles. Failed. Gone backwards. From leading astrophysicist to planetarium presenter. Destroys every relationship he’s in, never learning. Sad cos I find him funny as comic relief but it’s all he’s ever been.

THE LATER ARRIVALS
Bernie was driven from the start to be a success in her field and has been for a long time. Didn’t see enough early on but plenty in recent series. Linked to Howard from start, fell in love and despite hiatus got her man. Her journey has ended well although that whole baby thing went against her plansemoji15.png

Amy - started as a female Sheldon clone totally about the science of biology. We got to see her do a lot of her science over the years and she was celebrated. Strange that the biology was suddenly cut off and she suddenly becomes obsessed with physics with Sheldon. Find that a weird end to her science journey.

Then her emotional journey. Didn’t take too long for the robot to yearn for being a real girl. That’s been a long journey and she got her girlfriends and her boyfriend/husband. I feel that was the journey and enough. She got there.

Which is why the sudden episode of Amy manipulating Sheldon into liking kids, considering the writers constantly downplaying more kid stories, just seems like an unnecessary optional extra to the Shamy journey. Sure they have had the odd discussion about kids and yes unlike Lenny agree on having them but when I look at as part of their total journey I just don’t see it as a big enough part of it over the total run of the series that it’s so important that Amy is pregnant by the end. Knowing it will happen should be enough. Let’s focus on the science part - for me that is more important since that was what was most important to both Sheldon and Amy at the start. Leave enough space in the remaining episodes for others to shine instead of adding babies when the Nobel story has dominated so much already and isn’t over.

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3 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Don't understand the question, sorry. Do you mean in episodes with Raj and Anu, if they are the last couple ?

I'm sure many Nobel prizewinners  have children. I wouldn't call that overkill. Pierre and Marie Curie shared a Nobel prize as a couple and had a baby who grew up and won a Nobel prize herself.

It's definitely overkill!

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How Howard and Bernie's story ends could be interesting with rumours that if there was to be a spinoff show from TBBT it could be around them.

I would watch a Howard and Bernie sitcom, I think both are fantastic especially Simon.

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14 minutes ago, chucky said:

It's definitely overkill!

It’s overkill when one couple has two possible storylines and the couple you follow has none. jMO I could of explain it better so Joyce May have understood what I meant.

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8 hours ago, margarete said:

for me penny developed strongest, from good looking loser type into a better looking bit successful sales women. and leonard developed the least, still more or less the same nerd as 12 years ago, only married to a good looking sales woman. honestly, in real life, that wouldn't hold long!

someone said raj digressed .. well he at least can talk to women now. I do not see that as step back. Yes he hasn't found true love, but who did? Out of all characters in TBBT noone is even close to true love.

I agree with you about Leonard. He was kind of wussy and whiny at the start and he still is.

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49 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I agree with you about Leonard. He was kind of wussy and whiny at the start and he still is.

Yes...I agree with this as well.

5 hours ago, Jonny said:

How Howard and Bernie's story ends could be interesting with rumours that if there was to be a spinoff show from TBBT it could be around them.

I would watch a Howard and Bernie sitcom, I think both are fantastic especially Simon.

Yes!!

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1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I agree with you about Leonard. He was kind of wussy and whiny at the start and he still is.

 

5 hours ago, Jonny said:

How Howard and Bernie's story ends could be interesting with rumours that if there was to be a spinoff show from TBBT it could be around them.

I would watch a Howard and Bernie sitcom, I think both are fantastic especially Simon.

I heard Melissa has a job with another show

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AMY AND SHELDON TRY TO WIN OVER NOBEL LAUREATES, ON “THE BIG BANG THEORY,” THURSDAY, APRIL 4

“The Laureate Accumulation” – When competitors Pemberton (Sean Astin) and Campbell (Kal Penn) charm America on a publicity tour, Sheldon and Amy try to bring Nobel laureates Kip Thorne, George Smoot and Frances Arnold to their side. Also, Halley’s fear of the dark leads to opportunity and conflict for Howard, Bernadette and Stuart, on THE BIG BANG THEORY, Thursday, April 4 (8:00-8:31 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

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I totally disagree! 
Second that. I lol how Leonard is called wussy and whiny because of his upbringing, but stands tall when it matters, while the biggest whinger of all time. Sheldon is given a pass. Sheldon the wimp who runs away when the going get tough. Still laughing.

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