[Spoilers] Season 12 Discussion Thread

[Die Zimtzicke]

3 hours ago, Sah said:

Yeah! The return of Kripke, I was hoping he would be back before it ends! 

Me, too.

 

58 minutes ago, vonmar said:

Oscar-winning actress Regina King returns as Janine

That could be good. I really like her.

[joyceraye]

22 minutes ago, chucky said:

Have you been doing research on "Redneckese "? For those who don't know, that's redneck speech!

British necks don't often get the chance to turn red. We had some sunshine today though.

3 hours ago, Sah said:

Yeah! The return of Kripke, I was hoping he would be back before it ends! 

I hope he won't be trying to steal the Nobel nomination from under Shamy's nose. OTOH  he could try to oust the other two.

[chucky]

23 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

British necks don't often get the chance to turn red. We had some sunshine today though.

Southern Redneck isn't a "red" neck, but a way of life with it's own language!  😏

[Capt. Hilts]

1 hour ago, chucky said:

Southern Redneck isn't a "red" neck, but a way of life with it's own language!  😏

 

[3ku11]

4 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Does that mean they made Last of the Summer Wine with only one camera ? Who'da thunk it !

I think that was A Single Shot Camera show. Not alot of Multi Camera Sitcoms these days. Funny when Friends ended. People speculated the future of the MCS. Then TBBT came along. I guess with TBBT ending. The future is bleak. 

[djsurrey]

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

The future is bleak. 

Bleak for “appointment television” on network tv. I kind of prefer binge on a several episodes  at a time on a streaming service. 

[Jonny]

I used to think the guidance system project was one of the most boring and creatively unimaginative story arcs the show ever did. I could never really get into it, was bored to death.

But then the Nobel project came along...

Even as a someone who enjoys Shamy more than any other couple on this show and it’s by a country mile I just can’t get interested in this story.

[hokie3457]

4 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I used to think the guidance system project was one of the most boring and creatively unimaginative story arcs the show ever did. I could never really get into it, was bored to death.

But then the Nobel project came along...

Even as a someone who enjoys Shamy more than any other couple on this show and it’s by a country mile I just can’t get interested in this story.

It is forced and rushed. If this were not the final season, the super asymmetry plot may have had a chance to develop a bit more naturally without the pressure to give Sheldon & Amy a closing story line with a big win either professionally or emotionally/relationship centered. It is a shame that the most recent renewal did not have a “close the door” facet in which all knew things were going to end in two seasons and not have to rush to tie things up after having written c amount of episodes. (Despite TPTB bragging point of being able to wrap things up quickly!).

[ShamyScience]

The Super asymmetry storyline should have been done 3 episodes ago. I pray to every god that they wrap it up with this weeks taping.

[hokie3457]

5 minutes ago, ShamyScience said:

The Super asymmetry storyline should have been done 3 episodes ago. I pray to every god that they wrap it up with this weeks taping.

My take? It won’t be completed until the final.

[Carm6773]

9 hours ago, chucky said:

Southern Redneck isn't a "red" neck, but a way of life with it's own language!  😏

 

[bfm]

37 minutes ago, Jonny said:

I used to think the guidance system project was one of the most boring and creatively unimaginative story arcs the show ever did. I could never really get into it, was bored to death.

But then the Nobel project came along...

Even as a someone who enjoys Shamy more than any other couple on this show and it’s by a country mile I just can’t get interested in this story.

I am so bored of this story and so much that is related to it is just too far off from the way things work IRL and IMO too fairytaley that it feels like a Disney/Nickelodeon show. I would rather see Shamy go to a flag convention and/or create an FwF Twitter/Instagram account*...

 

 

*Dang it, now I'll have to find a way to integrate that into my fic

Edited March 29, 2019 by bfm

[Jonny]

30 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

It is forced and rushed. If this were not the final season, the super asymmetry plot may have had a chance to develop a bit more naturally without the pressure to give Sheldon & Amy a closing story line with a big win either professionally or emotionally/relationship centered. It is a shame that the most recent renewal did not have a “close the door” facet in which all knew things were going to end in two seasons and not have to rush to tie things up after having written c amount of episodes. (Despite TPTB bragging point of being able to wrap things up quickly!).

I would 100% agree it feels too rushed and that probably also has led to a lot of inaccuracies in the story.

IMO they should have developed this arc probably back in season 10. Hell maybe they should have stuck with the previous project they were working on and fleshed it out?

Of course you would have lost those scenes at the wedding, truth be told I thought they weren’t that good anyway.

I guess it might have resulted in no Nobel story (the other project) but there are other awards out there.

It just feels not fleshed out enough, a story so you can bring back guest stars repeatedly and just boring.

I would take Shamy going to a flag convention over seeing more of this. 

[bfm]

1 hour ago, Jonny said:

I guess it might have resulted in no Nobel story (the other project) but there are other awards out there.

Yeah I think going this big actually hurt the story because it makes it both too far from IRL and fairytaley. They could have had the paper published in a top journal e.g. Science or some fictional equivalent, have them win other awards (maybe fictional) and gain respect from other scientists, no need for a Nobel nomination.

[Die Zimtzicke]

2 hours ago, Jonny said:

IMO they should have developed this arc probably back in season 10. Hell maybe they should have stuck with the previous project they were working on and fleshed it out?

I would have liked that.

 

1 hour ago, bfm said:

Yeah I think going this big actually hurt the story because it makes it both too far from IRL and fairytaley. They could have had the paper published in a top journal e.g. Science or some fictional equivalent, have them win other awards (maybe fictional) and gain respect from other scientists, no need for a Nobel nomination.

I agree.

[hokie3457]

2 hours ago, bfm said:

Yeah I think going this big actually hurt the story because it makes it both too far from IRL and fairytaley. They could have had the paper published in a top journal e.g. Science or some fictional equivalent, have them win other awards (maybe fictional) and gain respect from other scientists, no need for a Nobel nomination.

There has always been a few things in TBBT-land that were thought of as "have to be's".  I may be talking out of my hat (and maybe some or all of them will not ending up happening...).  One was meeting Howard's father.  That seems to be on the extreme back burner, but is the sort of thing that can be done as a quick "B" or even "C" plotline.  Another is of course the "smart and beautiful babies". That is seemingly not going anywhere, but you never know what that last episode; that last minute of the series will bring.  Finally, it has always seemed to me that Sheldon would, in the end, receive the Nobel Prize.  It has been the thing he has pointed to the most.  Although, not everything happens the way you think or hope they will.  My favorite series ender ever was The Wonder Years.  In a sort of The World According to Garp (the book, not the movie) way, we found out the future of all involved and it DID NOT include a romantic "happily ever after" for Kevin Arnold and Winnie Cooper.  But in the case of Kevin and Winnie, sometimes you don't end up with your grade school/high school sweetheart.  For TWY, it worked.  We will see what happens here....

[April]

4 hours ago, Jonny said:

IMO they should have developed this arc probably back in season 10. Hell maybe they should have stuck with the previous project they were working on and fleshed it out?

I would have enjoyed that a lot more than this one. Heck, they could have even let them have a breakthrough on their wedding and all that jazz. But I think part of the reason why the project has been scrapped is that they only have Saltzberg as their science consultant and not a proper neuroscientist. (As much as I love Mayim her job isn't to check the scripts and she's been out of academia for a while now so I think they should have gotten someone from that field to fill that role.) So in the end they refer to him to come up with something and of course he's picking something from his field (no matter if it makes sense in the grand scheme of things).

[chucky]

29 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

Finally, it has always seemed to me that Sheldon would, in the end, receive the Nobel Prize

This I disagree with. He's wined about that enough. I'd like to see Leonard winning the Nobel and watch Sheldon's reaction to Leonard winning. For me, that would be an episode worth watching and remembering!

[bfm]

1 hour ago, hokie3457 said:

There has always been a few things in TBBT-land that were thought of as "have to be's".  I may be talking out of my hat (and maybe some or all of them will not ending up happening...).  One was meeting Howard's father.  That seems to be on the extreme back burner, but is the sort of thing that can be done as a quick "B" or even "C" plotline.  Another is of course the "smart and beautiful babies". That is seemingly not going anywhere, but you never know what that last episode; that last minute of the series will bring.  Finally, it has always seemed to me that Sheldon would, in the end, receive the Nobel Prize.  It has been the thing he has pointed to the most.  Although, not everything happens the way you think or hope they will.  My favorite series ender ever was The Wonder Years.  In a sort of The World According to Garp (the book, not the movie) way, we found out the future of all involved and it DID NOT include a romantic "happily ever after" for Kevin Arnold and Winnie Cooper.  But in the case of Kevin and Winnie, sometimes you don't end up with your grade school/high school sweetheart.  For TWY, it worked.  We will see what happens here....

I am not against Sheldon getting a Nobel prize per se, I just think it shouldn't have happened now. They could have had people saying that with more work in the following years Sheldon(/Sheldon and Amy) has good chances of getting a Nobel.

As for Howard's dad, as opposed to many here, I never expeted that. I think they just wrote the abandoning father as part of the character's history and never really had an interest in bringing him in.

Edited March 29, 2019 by bfm

[Chrismo]

Haven’t been on in awhile. Have a few comments:

1. Am I the only who could careless about the multi-cam record?I agree with 3kull about the quality of the show. Would have put more concern about the writing than patting themselves on the back.

2.  I will go with April assessment of Saltzburg but I would question  why they couldn’t go find, or afford, another consultant with a neuroscience background. Again Prady and Co. too busy patting themselves on the back.

3.As most others have pointed out this assymetry storyline has to end. I personally had little interest to begin with. It’s now moved to no interest. It’s taking up time for a show that’s about to end. Sad if you think about it.

[hokie3457]

58 minutes ago, bfm said:

I am not against Sheldon getting a Nobel prize per se, I just think it shouldn't have happened now. They could have had people saying that with more work in the following years Sheldon(/Sheldon and Amy) has good chances of getting a Nobel.

As for Howard's dad, as opposed to many here, I never expeted that. I think they just wrote the abandoning father as part of the character's history and never really had an interest in bringing him in.

This is going to sound awful, but I really have no care whether Sheldon wins a Nobel or not.  He is not why I am here and he repeatedly detracts from those who do keep me here.  I just feel that that is what TPTB had in store as to where his story would go......

[MTBigBangTheoryFan]

On 3/27/2019 at 11:06 AM, luminous said:

 

That is wrong.  It will end as the Fifth Longest-running Live-action (Second in terms of multi-camera) Sitcom in the history of American Television. Ozzie and Harriet (435), George Burns and Gracie Allen  (290), The Danny Thomas Show (344), My Three Sons (380) have more Episode. Apparently someone did not do  enough research 

1 hour ago, Chrismo said:

Haven’t been on in awhile. Have a few comments:

1. Am I the only who could careless about the multi-cam record?I agree with 3kull about the quality of the show. Would have put more concern about the writing than patting themselves on the back.

 

Well it not true anyway.  But I agree the number of Episodes a TV Show has does not always equal great quality. 

Edited March 29, 2019 by MTBigBangTheoryFan

[Die Zimtzicke]

5 hours ago, bfm said:

As for Howard's dad, as opposed to many here, I never expeted that. I think they just wrote the abandoning father as part of the character's history and never really had an interest in bringing him in.

I never thought they did either, but I had hoped at one point, having introduced the half brother, that he'd be back , probably because I personally thought he was well cast.

[chucky]

14 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I never thought they did either, but I had hoped at one point, having introduced the half brother, that he'd be back , probably because I personally thought he was well cast.

I personally, have no desire to see Howard's dad. We've seen Penny, Leonard, Amy and Bernadette's dads. That's plenty enough for me! Forgot to mention Raj's dad! We even saw Sheldon's dad from "YS"!

Edited March 30, 2019 by chucky

[MTBigBangTheoryFan]

19 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I never thought they did either, but I had hoped at one point, having introduced the half brother, that he'd be back , probably because I personally thought he was well cast.

I wish they had done an Episode where Howard Dad shows up but I the show has run out of time. the clock is ticking.