[Spoilers] Season 12 Discussion Thread

[Sah]

8 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

He didn't ruin the experiment the 3 of them did that to make sheldons attitude bearable I believe all of them knew the experiment wasn't going as planned and as i understand it you shouldn't claim success till you can back up your work or someone else does

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Actually I think we're all entitled to our opinions I may not agree with everything but I do like to read different thoughts about the show

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Ruining someone else's project is never ok. Even if you think it is going nowhere. Crappy thing to do. If Sheldon did that to A Leonard expirement would you feel the same or another crappy thing you thought Sheldon did?

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[legacy99]

Ruining someone else's project is never ok. Even if you think it is going nowhere. Crappy thing to do. If Sheldon did that to A Leonard expirement would you feel the same or another crappy thing you thought Sheldon did?

Everyone seems to forget that howard and raj in on it too

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[Tensor]

1 hour ago, shell said:

But it was a very dishonest approach that wasted money and time spending it in the arctic. If it wasn't going to work they could've just gone home early 

Actually, it doesn't work that way.  They were there to gather data for the entire period, they just couldn't "go home".  They did gather all the data.  They had two sets of data.  One with the can opener, and another without it.  It was Sheldon who sent out a email, boasting of success, without doing due diligence of running it past a peer review, prior to announcing.  This is on all of them.  

1 hour ago, Sah said:

Ruining someone else's project is never ok. Even if you think it is going nowhere. Crappy thing to do. If Sheldon did that to A Leonard expirement would you feel the same or another crappy thing you thought Sheldon did?

How exactly did they ruin his project?  They had all the data with them.  Ruining the project would have been gathering ONLY the data with the can opener on.  That didn't happen

 

[Sah]

Yes to all of it! I would love, love, love all of these except #1

The Big Bang Theory: 10 Things That Need to Happen to Sheldon Before it Ends

 

5 hours ago, Tensor said:

Actually, it doesn't work that way.  They were there to gather data for the entire period, they just couldn't "go home".  They did gather all the data.  They had two sets of data.  One with the can opener, and another without it.  It was Sheldon who sent out a email, boasting of success, without doing due diligence of running it past a peer review, prior to announcing.  This is on all of them.  

How exactly did they ruin his project?  They had all the data with them.  Ruining the project would have been gathering ONLY the data with the can opener on.  That didn't happen

 

Falsifying data...

[Tensor]

. OK, several posts have been hidden.  Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, so please don't comment about what other poster choose to post.  If you think a post is outside of our rules, report it.  Just a hint for everyone, discussion about the show, characters, or anything else having to do with the show, is allowed (unless it crosses a serious line).   If someone want's to dislike a character, they are allowed.  If you disagree, present evidence refuting that.  Do not talk about the other poster or groups of posters.

[Tensor]

5 minutes ago, Sah said:

Falsifying data...

They had all the original data.     

[Chrismo]

Isn’t up to Sheldon since it was his project to verify all the data? Also in theory if a Nobel Prize nomination was forthcoming wouldn’t  it only been him to receive it?

[Tensor]

1 minute ago, Chrismo said:

Isn’t up to Sheldon since it was his project to verify all the data? Also in theory if a Nobel Prize nomination was forthcoming wouldn’t  it only been him to receive it?

Yes to the first.   That would depend, but more than likely.  

[Sah]

Leonard and Penny are the only reason for the show. It should rightly be entirely about them. They are perfect and can do no wrong. Ever. They are inspiring the way they have so much in common. The way they stand around in the kitchen and don't do anything. Exactly the type of people everyone would want to watch. So unique. They really don't even need any other characters on the show. Just them. No neighbors or friends to live the show some added interest. They are just the greatest couple ever! They should have just made it a two character show.

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[Tensor]

9 minutes ago, Sah said:

Leonard and Penny are the only reason for the show. It should rightly be entirely about them. They are perfect and can do no wrong. Ever. They are inspiring the way they have so much in common. The way they stand around in the kitchen and don't do anything. Exactly the type of people everyone would want to watch. So unique. They really don't even need any other characters on the show. Just them. No neighbors or friends to live the show some added interest. They are just the greatest couple ever! They should have just made it a two character show.

See, now you understand.  😉

[shell]

9 minutes ago, Sah said:

Leonard and Penny are the only reason for the show. It should rightly be entirely about them. They are perfect and can do no wrong. Ever. They are inspiring the way they have so much in common. The way they stand around in the kitchen and don't do anything. Exactly the type of people everyone would want to watch. So unique. They really don't even need any other characters on the show. Just them. No neighbors or friends to live the show some added interest. They are just the greatest couple ever! 

They are...I watch them as AMSR videos at night to put me to sleep

Truly wonderful

2 minutes ago, Tensor said:

See, now you understand.  😉

wow

[Tensor]

3 minutes ago, shell said:

wow

Did you miss the winky emoticon?  That indicates it's a joke.  

[Sah]

21 minutes ago, shell said:

They are...I watch them as AMSR videos at night to put me to sleep

Truly wonderful

What else is there to say but Hail Leonard and Penny! I hope in the finale they move to a small farm way out in the middle of nowhere so they can live a happy, child free (they raised Sheldon afterall, that should be enough for anyone) friend free existence where nobody can find them to cause any sort of disturbance to them. They have earned the right to absolute quietness after all they have been through with their friends. And Sheldon. 

Crap, I mentioned another characters name. Like Lord Voldemort, Sheldon must not be discussed. 

 

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[Tensor]

31 minutes ago, Sah said:

Crap, I mentioned another characters name. Like Lord Voldemort, Sheldon must not be discussed. 

Actually, any character can be discussed, both good and bad in any thread in season 12, except the "Shipping Threads".  Only supportive statement for each ship is allowed there.    We put those in there so that those that don't want to see any kind of non-supportive statements about their ships, can go to those threads.  Anywhere else, people are free to offer up their own opinions on the show.  

15 minutes ago, Sah said:

Well, unless your favorite characters are not either Lenny or Penny...If you are a fan of he who can't be named that goes under Shamy thread. 

Only the great Lenny can be discussed on main thread.

Actually, nothing stops anyone from discussing any topic in the discussion thread.  People can choose to not participate, if they don't like the discussion.  What would you have us do?  Forbid anyone from talking about something that bothers others?  There wouldn't be any kind of threads here.  Look, just because someone adores a character, doesn't mean others will.  Others may really not like the character someone else likes.  Should we prevent people from talking about the characters they like, or dislike, because it bothers others?  

[veejay]

40 minutes ago, Sah said:

Crap, I mentioned another characters name. Like Lord Voldemort, Sheldon must not be discussed.

😁

[Sah]

For the finale I want Sheldon and Amy to get the kid, the Nobel, the house...Everything. They have worked hard toward their professional goals and should be rewarded. 

I want Leonard and Penny to move somewhere far away. Never to be heard from again. They have four kids, leaving Leonard delighted and Penny fat and miserable and resentful. Staring at each other over some counter top somewhere with still zero common ground. 

I want Raj to find love and happiness with Anu. Having a beautiful wedding that he plans, creating beautiful flower arrangements as long as his heart desires. 

I want Howardette to get a great job opportunity and Howard really does get to do engineering for Elon Musk. Or a great job at NASA. Both Howard and Bernie making bank.

Stewart to become rich and successful due to his brilliant art work and comic store. Married to Denise with two kids.

34 minutes ago, veejay said:

😁

Yes, a code word. Should really help in discussions I think...🤔 they helped Howard in space lol

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[April]

6 minutes ago, Sah said:

I want Leonard and Penny to move somewhere far away. Never to be heard from again. They have four kids, leaving Leonard delighted and Penny fat and miserable and resentful. Staring at each other over some counter top somewhere with still zero common ground. 

There's your spin off right there! lol

[veejay]

28 minutes ago, Sah said:

Yes, a code word. Should really help in discussions I think...🤔 they helped Howard in space lol

No, I don’t tell YOU to shut up. It should only be a hint to choose the codewords carefully before the mods become sensitive. Just for fun, sorry. 🙂

[Chrismo]

If we are doing wish things for finale here’s mine:

the two Fermilab guys get the Nobel. 

Sheldon would get his real wish. 15 kids. 3 sets of quints. All of them looking like Amy and the IQ of Mary. 10 years later Sheldon gets his Nobel on a project with Amy and Leonard

Howard get his PHD at Cal Tech. Bernadette would discover the drug that would make her voice normal. Their kids end up baby sitting the other kids.

Stuart gets a part time job illustrating children’s books. Marries Denise and has two kids.

Raj marries Anu and have three boys all who play football. Penny’s their coach

Leonard and Penny buy a house move closer to CalTech after Leonard’s promotion to Head of the Physics Department. The other three couples move to the same block. They are the last one to have a kid. They have a girl who looks exactly like Penny but with Leonatds IQ.

The gang eats dinner 4 times a week at each other’s houses. on Friday night they go to the TCF and then to the comic book store. The girls have girls night on that day. Occasionally Stuart and Denise come for dinner too.

[spidergirl]

3 hours ago, Sah said:

Leonard and Penny are the only reason for the show. It should rightly be entirely about them. They are perfect and can do no wrong. Ever. They are inspiring the way they have so much in common. The way they stand around in the kitchen and don't do anything. Exactly the type of people everyone would want to watch. So unique. They really don't even need any other characters on the show. Just them. No neighbors or friends to live the show some added interest. They are just the greatest couple ever! They should have just made it a two character show.

♥️ from Portugal just for you, girl !  

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[luminous]

And here I am...liking both Lenny and Shamy. Silly me!

[snowflake79]

I'm an ardent Lenny shipper, but that doesn't mean I can't like other couples as well. I like Shamy too. I admire Mayim's portrayal of Amy.

[Sah]

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

I’m pretty sure both couples have worked hard. And equally deserve payoffs in the final episode. Can we not with the shipping wars? I personally believe Lenny and Shamy are the two most unique sitcom couples ever. Instead of standing on our differences let’s, celebrate our similaritieS. 

As for making it a 2 character show. That already happened with “The Shamy Show” since Season 8 😁. 

I will continue to defend Sheldon whenever I want to. I see him very differently then you do. Frankly, your last sentance is not likely to make me feel any different. 

2 hours ago, luminous said:

And here I am...liking both Lenny and Shamy. Silly me!

I like Lenny fine...

[Sah]

23 minutes ago, snowflake79 said:

I'm an ardent Lenny shipper, but that doesn't mean I can't like other couples as well. I like Shamy too. I admire Mayim's portrayal of Amy.

I like Lenny fine. Penny is very charming and I love watching her do scenes with the other girls on the show. Leonard is a great friend to others. I like Shamy as well. I like thier chemistry together, I like that two misfits found eachother. I like that Sheldon, who was never really expected to find love did. 

[Itwasdestined]

I love them all. Over the last 12 seasons, they made laugh, cry, scream, shrug my shoulders, roll my eyes, clap my hands, cheer, shake my fist, squeal with delight, roar in anger, get frustrated, be filled with joy.

I’m a BBT Fanatic first, identify with Lenny next but get compared to Sheldon most by friends and family ( but without his worst extremes as I could not exist in real life if those traits were possible)

I recognise that Raj is very much a douchebag but still laugh at his comic relief role and been saddened by his character stalling often. I cringed at much of Howard’s early efforts but grew to acknowledge that his best moments were truly some of the show’s highlights.

I cheered for the Lenny relationship from the moment it began and drew parallels to my life. Early Penny was eye catching but I grew intrigued with her beyond her looks and rode the roller coaster of her troubled life from start to finish. I sided with Leonard but was still disappointed when he failed to live up to the standards I felt he set.

Sheldon drew me into the show deeply with his quirks that others saw in me and I laughed at them for years, accepting the absurdity of his behaviour as a byproduct of the comedy he delivered. I’ve never grown tired of the character himself, just the overuse of him by the writers to the detriment of others’ development and stories.

As part of both Howardette and “the girls” Bernadette’s humour and feistiness grew on me and her and Howard’s moments were often scene stealers to me. And yet I am saddened by the nasty edge the writers have given her in recent seasons.

Amy has always been a hard one to categorise for me. As an individual she both amuses and infuriates. As part of Shamy I’ve felt the same. But I’ve always enjoyed that she’s part of the show.

Stuart has deserved to be treated better than he has, Wil, Kripke, the parents have been great foils ( not sure we needed Bert!).

On here I’ve complained when I felt it necessary but generally just enjoyed the ride, bumpy though it’s been. I’ve watched bemused generally as the shipping wars have ebbed and flowed. I’ve cringed at the constant rehashed arguments but accepted them as part of being in an online community of varied backgrounds, biases, maturities and writing skills. But I’ve always been amazed at the passion and knowledge, the humour and serious intent inherent in the discussions that take place.

As the show draws to the end I live in genuine hope that everyone here gets something at the end that brings them some joy because it truly saddens me when this place descends into a gloom and doom zone. The show has given us a lot. Sometimes we forget that when we hit a wall. Here’s to hope.


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