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7 hours ago, bfm said:

It is so weird that this is ending. I say 'this' because the weirder part for me is not that the show is ending (although that is weird, it's been on for sooo long but TV shows end), but the probable decline of the things I engage in that relate to the show. This forum has been kind of a newspaper for me for more than 2 years now, what will I read now while I eat my breakfast? I suppose there will be some activity for some time after the finale, but it will decline. I suppose there will also be less and less fanfictions. I'm planning to continue mine and there probably will be some continuing and new writers (the show will probably live on for years via syndication), but it will probably not be the same. It isn't the same already, I'm not sure about stories but fav and follow number seem to indicate just 2 years ago there were many more readers, I have the feeling this is true for stories as well. There are some great fanfics out there, some of them written by talented members in this forum. I will miss that.

So right now it all just feels...weird.

I believe I'll miss those the most!

2 hours ago, Kev0821 said:

 

Sorry, I don't care about Sheldon!

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They're on the Colbert show on Thursday, that's why they flew to NY

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2 minutes ago, bfm said:

They're on the Colbert show on Thursday, that's why they flew to NY

Johnny and Kaley will also be on CBS This Morning,  on Thursday.  This is at the west 57th Broadcast Center, in Studio 57.  This facility also houses Studio 44, if that rings a bell.😉

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Why The Big Bang Theory Finale Could Be A Disappointment

screenrant.com

"The Big Bang Theory finale is days away, but is it possible the ending will satisfy the show's massive fanbase? Going into the final two episodes, the show has little set up for any of the primary characters outside of Sheldon and Amy..."

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2 hours ago, veejay said:

Why The Big Bang Theory Finale Could Be A Disappointment

screenrant.com

"The Big Bang Theory finale is days away, but is it possible the ending will satisfy the show's massive fanbase? Going into the final two episodes, the show has little set up for any of the primary characters outside of Sheldon and Amy..."

I guess it depends on your expectations. Majority of the season has been invested in The Super Assymetry Plot. Barley any thing outside that. The Final Two episodes are going to have to make up for a hell alot of time. 

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Why The Big Bang Theory Finale Could Be A Disappointment
screenrant.com
"The Big Bang Theory finale is days away, but is it possible the ending will satisfy the show's massive fanbase? Going into the final two episodes, the show has little set up for any of the primary characters outside of Sheldon and Amy..."


Yeah I reckon it’s called screenrant for a reason. They seem to go the less positive slant lately, which is understandable since that’s the vibe from many hardcore fans here. ( caveat- I haven’t read article - not interested in negative stuff. I want to finish the journey feeling happy and positive. That’s generally been my stance the last 6 years on this forum)

I don’t think there’s nothing set up for the other characters. It’s more that they’ve over set up the Nobel story. Really didn’t need an entire season on it with so many episodes on just the battle between them and the other two experimental physicists. That was major overkill along with other aspects.

Lenny have not had the same saturation coverage as Shamy but we still have career possibilities for both of them explored beforehand that can be resolved plus of course that OTHER issue. Even the underlying multi season arc of will they go outside their comfort zone is a chance to be explored without having to pull it out of nowhere. I personally also am interested in whether they can finally surgically remove themselves from their conjoined twins across the hall and gain some independence. It’s not Nobel prize stuff but it’s the story of Lenny that has simmered from the beginning. Will it happen?

Howardette are less obvious. Bernie has her new drug thing with Penny. Does that go anywhere? Howard doesn’t seem to have much going on ATM unless the military comes back out of nowhere or NASA.
As a couple, how does finally losing Stuart change their life? I don’t expect the Howard Dad thing to pop up out of nowhere.

Raj has post Anu to address? Is she still around in the finale? Does he find happiness in himself? Does that change him and make him loveable? Career wise they’ve pushed the alien thing a bit? Does that lead to anything? Is the Planetarium gig his real dream or is he looking for more?

I’m gonna just wait and see what happens. We’re in the End game now.


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23 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

 


Yeah I reckon it’s called screenrant for a reason. They seem to go the less positive slant lately, which is understandable since that’s the vibe from many hardcore fans here. ( caveat- I haven’t read article - not interested in negative stuff. I want to finish the journey feeling happy and positive. That’s generally been my stance the last 6 years on this forum)

I don’t think there’s nothing set up for the other characters. It’s more that they’ve over set up the Nobel story. Really didn’t need an entire season on it with so many episodes on just the battle between them and the other two experimental physicists. That was major overkill along with other aspects.

Lenny have not had the same saturation coverage as Shamy but we still have career possibilities for both of them explored beforehand that can be resolved plus of course that OTHER issue. Even the underlying multi season arc of will they go outside their comfort zone is a chance to be explored without having to pull it out of nowhere. I personally also am interested in whether they can finally surgically remove themselves from their conjoined twins across the hall and gain some independence. It’s not Nobel prize stuff but it’s the story of Lenny that has simmered from the beginning. Will it happen?

Howardette are less obvious. Bernie has her new drug thing with Penny. Does that go anywhere? Howard doesn’t seem to have much going on ATM unless the military comes back out of nowhere or NASA.
As a couple, how does finally losing Stuart change their life? I don’t expect the Howard Dad thing to pop up out of nowhere.

Raj has post Anu to address? Is she still around in the finale? Does he find happiness in himself? Does that change him and make him loveable? Career wise they’ve pushed the alien thing a bit? Does that lead to anything? Is the Planetarium gig his real dream or is he looking for more?

I’m gonna just wait and see what happens. We’re in the End game now.


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Agreed

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27 minutes ago, Itwasdestined said:

Yeah I reckon it’s called screenrant for a reason. They seem to go the less positive slant lately, which is understandable since that’s the vibe from many hardcore fans here. ( caveat- I haven’t read article - not interested in negative stuff. I want to finish the journey feeling happy and positive. That’s generally been my stance the last 6 years on this forum)

I don’t think there’s nothing set up for the other characters. It’s more that they’ve over set up the Nobel story. Really didn’t need an entire season on it with so many episodes on just the battle between them and the other two experimental physicists. That was major overkill along with other aspects.

Lenny have not had the same saturation coverage as Shamy but we still have career possibilities for both of them explored beforehand that can be resolved plus of course that OTHER issue. Even the underlying multi season arc of will they go outside their comfort zone is a chance to be explored without having to pull it out of nowhere. I personally also am interested in whether they can finally surgically remove themselves from their conjoined twins across the hall and gain some independence. It’s not Nobel prize stuff but it’s the story of Lenny that has simmered from the beginning. Will it happen?

Howardette are less obvious. Bernie has her new drug thing with Penny. Does that go anywhere? Howard doesn’t seem to have much going on ATM unless the military comes back out of nowhere or NASA.
As a couple, how does finally losing Stuart change their life? I don’t expect the Howard Dad thing to pop up out of nowhere.

Raj has post Anu to address? Is she still around in the finale? Does he find happiness in himself? Does that change him and make him loveable? Career wise they’ve pushed the alien thing a bit? Does that lead to anything? Is the Planetarium gig his real dream or is he looking for more?

I’m gonna just wait and see what happens. We’re in the End game now.

 

I can understand your attitude and point of view very well. With regard to the article I've linked to, I consider the author's view to be rather neutral and plausible. The headline may seem a bit provocative out of commercial reasons, well... 😉

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We still coming to this forum when the show ends? Naturally as traffic dies down. But be cool to keep this site as almost a Shrine to the show. 

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1 hour ago, Itwasdestined said:

 I want to finish the journey feeling happy and positive.

This!

I'm sad the show is ending tomorrow, but I'm also looking forward to the finale, since my gut feeling tells me I will be happy and moved. And not just as a fan of TBBT, but also as an ardent Lenny shipper. And no clickbait article from a dubious website like screenrant, whose only purpose is to rant (hence the name of the site) and spread negativity will change that. 🙂

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13 minutes ago, snowflake79 said:

This!

I'm sad the show is ending tomorrow, but I'm also looking forward to the finale, since my gut feeling tells me I will be happy and moved. And not just as a fan of TBBT, but also as an ardent Lenny shipper. And no clickbait article from a dubious website like screenrant, whose only purpose is to rant (hence the name of the site) and spread negativity will change that. 🙂

Well I hope your gut feeling is right and you will be happy and moved , I just wish I could feel the same but I don't 

 

On another note , to all those who write TBBT  Fanfiction I hope you all continue to do so as we need to keep the spirit of the show alive. 

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Posted (edited)

I've seen up to episode 21 The plagiarism thing, and I can't imagine what's still to come could change how I feel about the current state of the show - angry, sad and baffled.

Angry that the programme makers seem to have deliberately crashed the quality of the show by treating Amy as the heroine. Some people have complained that it's become the Sheldon Show, but I think foregrounding Amy is the problem. Just consider how inherently ridiculous it was to make that character part of Sheldon's Nobel bid. If S was to be in for a Nobel, obviously Leonard should have been his co-nominee. It could have worked well with Penny being supportive and Amy being a pain. Apart from that, Amy's emotional "life" is just not interesting, because MB can't do that sort of thing. She could be very funny but she can't do loveable. Some very successful sitcoms have no characters one particularly cares about, but TBBT had Lenny.

Sad that we don't get the emotional resolution that Penny and Leonard need and deserve. They went far beyond comedy to give us a truly touching relationship, that A & S couldn't. And angry that the wonderful comic and romantic actress KC has been sidelined while lesser talents take the spotlight.

Baffled that the programme makers destroyed a great show. Without Penny/KC they'd have had just another ho-hum funny-nerd sitcom worth a couple of seasons. But even such a show would have been better than what we've got now, focussed on the empty character of Amy, who has lost everthing that made her funny. And Sheldon has also been stripped of his once-hilarious peculiarities to dwindle into a husband.

As an example of the deterioration, consider 2 scenes where Sheldon sang Soft Kitty. When he sang it to Penny who was spaced out on painkillers after S took her to get her dislocated shoulder fixed, it was quite hilarious and also rather touching. When he sang it Amy after her outburst, it was just mawkish and very boring. The only redemming feature was that Amy looked like a cat being fondled against its will, and I don't suppose that was intentional.

There are other storylines that could be cut to make wroom for Lenny's resolution, of course - does anyone really care what happens to Raj?

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On 5/14/2019 at 11:33 AM, hokie3457 said:

I think we (I) will be moved. 

That's what I think too. :girlsmile:

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41 minutes ago, snowflake79 said:

I'm sad the show is ending tomorrow, but I'm also looking forward to the finale, since my gut feeling tells me I will be happy and moved. And not just as a fan of TBBT, but also as an ardent Lenny shipper. And no clickbait article from a dubious website like screenrant, whose only purpose is to rant (hence the name of the site) and spread negativity will change that. 🙂

Wonderful attitude, rarely see it these days, nice!  👍   I'm looking forward to the finale as well.  

 

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11 hours ago, shell said:

So, Jim moved back to NYC that quick, huh?

I knew he would do that. He'll be back on Broadway where he wants to be as quickly as possible. And has been pointed out, he already had a home there.

3 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Why The Big Bang Theory Finale Could Be A Disappointment

Well, yeah, that's a given. Different fans want different things. There is no way everyone will be perfectly happy.

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1 minute ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I knew he would do that. He'll be back on Broadway where he wants to be as quickly as possible. And has been pointed out, he already had a home there.

I figured, too--just didn't know for sure Didn't know when the Boys in the Band movie would begin production ( Vonmar said it was filming in CA)

 I'm going to NYC Saturday--- Would be sooo cool to bump into them all (But will probably be gone by then)

 

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37 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Well, yeah, that's a given. Different fans want different things. There is no way everyone will be perfectly happy.

A very good possibility!

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I just read the screenrant article and I have to agree with them

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1 hour ago, luminous said:

From usatoday.com

'The Big Bang Theory' co-creator Chuck Lorre, right, handles the slate marking the final taped scene of the 12-season CBS comedy as actor Johnny Galecki watches.
Michael Yarish, CBS
 
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I guess this proves correct that Lorre wouldn’t continue without any of his principal cast. He does not completely rule out a sequel here but it certainly is not happening soon - if ever.

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A sequel regardless of what it is would ultimately disappoint. The show works best as an ensemble. 

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