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29 minutes ago, bfm said:

There’s always reigniting the classic “ never let them die” perennial arguments over Raj sleeping with Penny

I brought that up in a post as the reason Emily/Raj couldn't work and the reason for the hatred between Penny and Emily!

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21 hours ago, veejay said:

Well said. I can also imagine that various aspects of the now complete series development could be alternatively or even re-evaluated from today's personal perspective. In view of the mostly positive experiences here in this forum, it would certainly be an inspiration for us fans to continue some threads of conversation, no matter in which direction or preference. I myself still find it difficult to give up the end of a now long period of joint refreshing squibblings with a wide range of people from all over the world.

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I’m up for squibbling, when the mood takes me. For instance, we could re-litigate the data corruption by electric can opener. I wasn’t here for that one, but I think it was totally justified. :) 

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26 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

I’m up for squibbling, when the mood takes me. For instance, we could re-litigate the data corruption by electric can opener. I wasn’t here for that one, but I think it was totally justified. :) 

Brilliant example! But I must confess, that I'm more suitable as an illuminator than a great calculator. Like Penny, my weak spot is...

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23 hours ago, BigBang15 said:

What else is there to do on this forum? There's the Young Sheldon section. TBBT has no new episodes coming, so.....

I gave two suggestions in my original post. I also like veejay's suggestions. And we still have the science in the news and chit chat pages.

Fanfic is fine if it stands alone, like the fanfic forum here, where it can easily be avoided if one wishes. That does not seem be the case if a season 13 section was added if I'm reading it right. To be honest, I just have, over the years, come to hate fanfic. (And this is coming from someone who used to write it for other shows, granted, a long time ago, but I did.) It costs nothing, it's worth nothing and like fan art, people get all bent out of shape if you make the smallest criticism of it. Some of my worst arguments I've had with other fans have been about fanfic. It's not like the way we used to criticize the writers of the show here. If you aren't happy with the way a fanfic is going you are hurting the feelings of a friend. And it eventually stops. Most of the Buffy and Harry Potter boards I was on, for example, have disappeared or all but.  Even some of the classic Doctor Who ones have gone down. If you guys want to do a fanfic type season 13 forum, I wish you the best of luck, but it just doesn't interest  me personally. I prefer the fanfic forum stands the way it was originally put up. To me twelve is the last season and should remain so, page wise.

20 hours ago, MTBigBangTheoryFan said:

Then why is the Fan Fiction forum  on here? Certainly, if someone doesn't want to participate they don't have too. I see what you mean but the admin would not have added a section for FanFiction if they didn't want it here.  

I never said you couldn't keep the fan fiction forum. But I didn't think that was what was being proposed now. As I said above, a season 13 forum was mentioned here, just for fanfic. I just didn't think you needed a special area for it.

This summed it up for me well:

22 hours ago, chucky said:

To each their own!

 

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First, I don't like fan-fiction either. The only fan-fic I ever liked was the Hogan's Heroes one where the tied up everything.

Second, while yes it may seem like fan fiction, I didn't originally envision full multi-page stories. Basically Plotted out (like a real episode) posts.

I based this on the old usenet days when we Round-Robbined the (original) Star Trek: The Pepsi Generation (not the video of the same name. They took some character names from us, but changed how the story finally ended). Someone would write a few lines, then the next one would continue. But that doesn't work here. Each person (or persons) plots out a whole BBT episode. It would look sort of like a Taping Report, but in plot order.

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While I don’t believe there will be a season 13( too easy for confusion) forum,  there could possibly be an after the show section( Tripper and I haven’t discussed anything yet).  However, that kind of thing(a plot for each episode) could be in one topic, with discussion and plots, or two, one for each,  enabling those that want to avoid it, to avoid it. 

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6 hours ago, Tensor said:

While I don’t believe there will be a season 13( too easy for confusion) forum,  there could possibly be an after the show section( Tripper and I haven’t discussed anything yet).  However, that kind of thing(a plot for each episode) could be in one topic, with discussion and plots, or two, one for each,  enabling those that want to avoid it, to avoid it. 

Yeah, I got confused once, maybe twice...

17 hours ago, Itwasdestined said:

There’s always reigniting the classic “ never let them die” perennial arguments over Raj sleeping with Penny, should Penny have cared more when Amy whacked Leonard when Sheldon left on the train and should Lenny have moved out earlier. emoji1787.pngemoji12.png. They never get old...

I vote for this. Nothing like digging up the dead horse, beating it again and reburying it for a later beating. I still feel strongly about Leonard being pantsed in front of his mum by Penny. And that they didn’t even try with the pillows. Someone should make a list of the horses. 

But Penny and Raj was fine for Penny, bad for Raj. Just saying...

4 hours ago, bfm said:

I like fanfiction, but there was a previous attempt to do a forum fanfiction where each person continues what has been written before and it didn't last long. 

I read Elliptical Threads, which was so good. Then I read some story about Penny waking up with Sheldon and then sneaking back to Leonard. I was scarred forever*. By both really. Too far from the nominal reality of the show for me. Despite the skills exercised by the writers. So I stopped. Also I wonder about playing with someone else’s IP. It’s an accepted form of homage, I guess. No one gets hurt. Except for *see above. :) 

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4 minutes ago, SRAM said:

Right now it just seems like the summer break, in the fall is when it is going to be real when there are no new episodes.

That's what Johnny kept saying in interviews.

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2 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Yeah, I got confused once, maybe twice...

I vote for this. Nothing like digging up the dead horse, beating it again and reburying it for a later beating. I still feel strongly about Leonard being pantsed in front of his mum by Penny. And that they didn’t even try with the pillows. Someone should make a list of the horses. 

But Penny and Raj was fine for Penny, bad for Raj. Just saying...

I read Elliptical Threads, which was so good. Then I read some story about Penny waking up with Sheldon and then sneaking back to Leonard. I was scarred forever*. By both really. Too far from the nominal reality of the show for me. Despite the skills exercised by the writers. So I stopped. Also I wonder about playing with someone else’s IP. It’s an accepted form of homage, I guess. No one gets hurt. Except for *see above. :) 

I enjoy reading the fan-fiction stories when they are believable and well written. Some are so good it makes you wonder why the show writers did not think of them. But also some are so out of character they are ridiculous.  There are so many Shenny stories that could never happen but I guess that is what fan-fiction is about. However, being a Lenny fan I just could not really get into them with any focus.

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14 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

I enjoy reading the fan-fiction stories when they are believable and well written. Some are so good it makes you wonder why the show writers did not think of them. But also some are so out of character they are ridiculous.  There are so many Shenny stories that could never happen but I guess that is what fan-fiction is about. However, being a Lenny fan I just could not really get into them with any focus.

So very true, especially about shenny. Those stories I didn't recognize any of the characters as they need to change them to make their stories work!

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4 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

I read Elliptical Threads, which was so good. Then I read some story about Penny waking up with Sheldon and then sneaking back to Leonard. I was scarred forever*. By both really. Too far from the nominal reality of the show for me. Despite the skills exercised by the writers. So I stopped. Also I wonder about playing with someone else’s IP. It’s an accepted form of homage, I guess. No one gets hurt. Except for *see above. :) 

I know you read a couple of others...😜

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7 hours ago, bfm said:

I avoid Shenny stories,

As do I, but sometimes you don't know they'e shenny til you read them because they're not listed as shenny in the description. That really burns my grits!

11 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

But Penny and Raj was fine for Penny, bad for Raj. Just saying...

Except for with Emily!

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13 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

Nothing like digging up the dead horse, beating it again and reburying it for a later beating.

I wonder sometimes, though, if after watching reruns and giving it more thought, if anyone would come up with different perspectives, or see something they missed the first time. And there is certainly the possibility that people connected with the show will make comments on things that happened or were discussed that we don't yet know about and we can go into what we think of those things.

JK Rowling lit up a lot of Harry Potter boards with things she said about the characters after the series was done. Of course in her case there was a lot of "If she wanted me to think that it should have been in the books" and "is it or is it not canon if she says it" debate,

10 hours ago, Mario D. said:

I enjoy reading the fan-fiction stories when they are believable and well written. Some are so good it makes you wonder why the show writers did not think of them. But also some are so out of character they are ridiculous. 

I hated the ones where the grammar and spelling were so bad that I wanted to take a virtual red pen and start correcting them.

 

21 hours ago, BigBang15 said:

The only fan-fic I ever liked was the Hogan's Heroes one where the tied up everything.

Oh, I loved those, too. We used to pass around photocopied ones at school before the Internet came along. And Man from UNCLE! Then they did Return of the Man from UNCLE and pissed off most of the fan base.

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56 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I hated the ones where the grammar and spelling were so bad that I wanted to take a virtual red pen and start correcting them.

For me, not so much. Shenny is what I hate. They're usually ridiculous. I don't read unless the description doesn't say shenny. Usually I can tell by a sentence or two, then I stop reading!!

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2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I wonder sometimes, though, if after watching reruns and giving it more thought, if anyone would come up with different perspectives, or see something they missed the first time. And there is certainly the possibility that people connected with the show will make comments on things that happened or were discussed that we don't yet know about and we can go into what we think of those things.

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2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I hated the ones where the grammar and spelling were so bad that I wanted to take a virtual red pen and start correcting them.

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23 hours ago, Tensor said:

I know you read a couple of others...😜

Yeah, I was obsessed. And did read a lot. The problem for me came when all this good stuff written in good faith by good people was totally absent from the show. I kept hoping it would cross pollenate, but where Sheldon was concerned Leonard could never catch a break. 

I don’t think anyone actually wrote the Hitchcock Rope version where Sheldon is smothered with a pillow and hidden in the apartment in a box by Leonard & Penny  - quite the different sort of finale that’d have been-  but there’s an idea for someone. Two lots of IP to mash-up. 

And it being TBBT it has to be written funny. Like the  CSI crossover episode written by the Three and a Half Men team. Best line I recall was, after a rubber chicken is extracted from the throat of the victim, Grissom (I think) is asked “What’s that?”. He replied, “A gag”. 

 You’re welcome. :😁

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