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47 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

I recommend all The Sarah Jane Adventures, video and audio. There's nothing unsuitable for children, unlike Torchwood.  (Torchwood used  to be  shown in two versions  on different days, but the 'family' version was still somewhat near the border. It makes TBBT look like a Sunday School picnic . ) They show  SJA  on the BBC children's channel. 

 I loved  it, being a contemporary of Sarah Jane, and  I wept buckets when Elisabeth Sladen who played her died. I don't know why our  TBBT gang never mention it.  It has its share of  space aliens and amazing Sci-fi technology, not to mention the heroism involved in saving the universe every week.

Sarah Jane first appeared in Jon Pertwee's era of Dr Who and continued to be a Companion to Tom Baker's Doctor. After  Elisabeth Sladen got married to another actor and had her daughter, Sarah Jane popped up almost exclusively on the radio although there was a TV pilot called A Girl's Best Friend that didn't get developed thanks to strikes. Then one day, with absolutely no pre-publicity whatsoever, in a David Tennant's Dr Who episode called School Reunion, there she was, with K9 in her boot (trunk) ! Tears and cheers from everybody over a certain age in the nation ! 

SJA is made in English by  BBC Wales with few if any  concessions to the American market so you might need to get your grandaughter a  British glossary to go with the DVDs and/or CDs, Chucky.

My granddaughter is a junior in high school. Not a little girl any more.  She once went trick or treating as a "Daling" or something like that from Dr Who. I know she scared the crap out of the other kids. I didn't even recognize her. To tell  the truth, she scared me too. I had no warning whatsoever. For a couple of minutes I thought one of the Grim Reaper's henchmen was there to get me. ☺️

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51 minutes ago, chucky said:

My granddaughter is a junior in high school. Not a little girl any more.  She once went trick or treating as a "Daling" or something like that from Dr Who. I know she scared the crap out of the other kids. I didn't even recognize her. To tell  the truth, she scared me too. I had no warning whatsoever. For a couple of minutes I thought one of the Grim Reaper's henchmen was there to get me. ☺️

The  children are of various ages, but the 'main' young people in SJA  start off at about 14 and are  17 or 18  when the series sadly finishes.  The adults are funny.

I don't remember seeing any Daleks in SJA but that doesn't mean there weren't any. I get forgetful nowadays. Daleks are mechanical representations of nazis,despite looking like big pepperpots, and they are very frightening. They've always scared me. I came across one when I rounded a corner at Madame Tussaud's once and nearly jumped out of my skin.  I think Sheldon said he was fighting them when he was dressed as The Doctor once when Amy bought Howard's Tardis, but we didn't see any. 

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1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

Daleks

Thanks. Since I'm Dr Who illiterate, I don't know the correct name or spelling. But your right, if you're  unprepared for seeing a Dalek, it will scare the crap out of you! Been there, had that happen!

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19 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Daleks are mechanical representations of nazis,despite looking like big pepperpots, and they are very frightening. They've always scared me.

They didn't scare me because I always figured you could just run up a flight of stairs and they would be screwed. I found Cybermen much more scary. And the Master. Both classic Who Masters, although I loved Roger Delgado dearly. The first Master regeneration was done well.

To get off Who for awhile I thought this was also interesting...
https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/10/big-bang-theory-spin-off-young-sheldon-faces-272000-fine-breaking-broadcasting-rules-10717591/

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20 hours ago, chucky said:

Thanks. Since I'm Dr Who illiterate, I don't know the correct name or spelling. But your right, if you're  unprepared for seeing a Dalek, it will scare the crap out of you! Been there, had that happen!

Never seen any Dr. Who, but I thought I'd post this to provide some context:

The Daleks are a fictional extraterrestrial race of mutants in the British science fiction television series Doctor Who, created by the megalomaniacal scientist Davros of the planet Skaro to be an emotionless "master race" bent on universal conquest and domination, utterly without pity, compassion or remorse.

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-Sounds like a creature Sheldon would want to emulate rather than fight.-

11 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

I am wondering if they're not investing a lot of money in a dead horse. 

I don't have any data to rely upon but I wonder if any other show has ever gotten so much new content paired with syndication exposure as TBBT. Between CBS (and affiliates) and TBS (in the U.S.) there is scarcely an evening that doesn't offer multiple episodes of TBBT. Now that there are no new episodes forthcoming I wonder if there's going to be a sustainable audience to cover such an investment.

(My skepticism could be somewhat based upon my own, on-going, indifference to watching TBBT since the finale aired.)

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22 hours ago, chucky said:

She once went trick or treating as a "Daling" or something like that from Dr Who. I know she scared the crap out of the other kids.

I've been corrected by my granddaughter. She was dressed as a, I think, a creepy angel from Dr Who. It was some kind of angel.  Scary as hell.

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12 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Good for Americans to have those rules. Here they sometimes put the rocket alarm sound on the news, in related articles. It can be frightening for a moment, before you realize it's from the TV. It's annoying, and it's really unnecessary. I don't need to hear the alarm when they talk about shootings, I know it well enough. 

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On 9/18/2019 at 11:26 PM, joyceraye said:

I recommend all The Sarah Jane Adventures, video and audio. There's nothing unsuitable for children, unlike Torchwood.  (Torchwood used  to be  shown in two versions  on different days, but the 'family' version was still somewhat near the border. It makes TBBT look like a Sunday School picnic . ) They show  SJA  on the BBC children's channel. 

 I loved  it, being a contemporary of Sarah Jane, and  I wept buckets when Elisabeth Sladen who played her died. I don't know why our  TBBT gang never mention it.  It has its share of  space aliens and amazing Sci-fi technology, not to mention the heroism involved in saving the universe every week.

Sarah Jane first appeared in Jon Pertwee's era of Dr Who and continued to be a Companion to Tom Baker's Doctor. After  Elisabeth Sladen got married to another actor and had her daughter, Sarah Jane popped up almost exclusively on the radio although there was a TV pilot called A Girl's Best Friend that didn't get developed thanks to strikes. Then one day, with absolutely no pre-publicity whatsoever, in a David Tennant's Dr Who episode called School Reunion, there she was, with K9 in her boot (trunk) ! Tears and cheers from everybody over a certain age in the nation ! 

SJA is made in English by  BBC Wales with few if any  concessions to the American market so you might need to get your grandaughter a  British glossary to go with the DVDs and/or CDs, Chucky.

Much of what people need to know about The Doctor. I can’t find a Sarah Jane “singing and dancing” expositive. Someone should get on to that.

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12 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

They didn't scare me because I always figured you could just run up a flight of stairs and they would be screwed.

At first, yes, but now they can not only get up stairs, they can fly ! 

11 hours ago, HeWolf said:

-Sounds like a creature Sheldon would want to emulate rather than fight.-

Up to a point, very much so. There's a central mind in charge of them, which would suit him were he the boss.

Their babies are made in a sort of laboratory. They do not become benign overlords though, which Sheldon wanted his offspring to be.

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22 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

At first, yes, but now they can not only get up stairs, they can fly ! 

Up to a point, very much so. There's a central mind in charge of them, which would suit him were he the boss.

Their babies are made in a sort of laboratory. They do not become benign overlords though, which Sheldon wanted his offspring to be.

I can remember being under age 7 and hiding behind the lounge (US: couch) when the titles were rolling and THAT music played. It may have been Troughton then.

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11 hours ago, bfm said:

Good for Americans to have those rules. Here they sometimes put the rocket alarm sound on the news, in related articles. It can be frightening for a moment, before you realize it's from the TV. It's annoying, and it's really unnecessary. I don't need to hear the alarm when they talk about shootings, I know it well enough. 

I hate it when I'm driving in the car and a song on the radio has a siren on it. That always startles me.

 

11 hours ago, joyceraye said:

At first, yes, but now they can not only get up stairs, they can fly ! 

I haven't watched in a long time. They lost me with Rose. I thought she was the most annoying companion since Peri and Teegan. And her falling in love with the Doctor was the dumbest idea I think they ever had. But that's probably just me. My youngest daughter went all the way to Kentucky once to see Matt Smith.

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9 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I hate it when I'm driving in the car and a song on the radio has a siren on it. That always startles me.

 

I haven't watched in a long time. They lost me with Rose. I thought she was the most annoying companion since Peri and Teegan. And her falling in love with the Doctor was the dumbest idea I think they ever had. But that's probably just me. My youngest daughter went all the way to Kentucky once to see Matt Smith.

Rose loved a copy of the Doctor and lived happily ever after with him on a copy of England or Earth or something. I don't get the science of parallel universes, many worlds stuff. It's the sort of thing that makes me skip episodes. I only remember the end of that story. If they had Rose in love with the real one  it's very inappropriate. I wouldn't have liked that.

The Doctor himself is married, something that's not often mentioned, although his wife has appeared in a few episodes. One of his grandaughters travelled with him and stayed behind to marry a human and rebuild Earth after Daleks had devastated it.

I liked Matt Smith because he reminded me of the second Doctor, Patrick Troughton. He's the one Leonard apparently dressed as when Penny accompanied him for protection because he was wearing a bow tie and a fez.

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16 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Rose loved a copy of the Doctor and lived happily ever after with him on a copy of England or Earth or something. I don't get the science of parallel universes, many worlds stuff. It's the sort of thing that makes me skip episodes. I only remember the end of that story. If they had Rose in love with the real one  it's very inappropriate. I wouldn't have liked that.

The Doctor himself is married, something that's not often mentioned, although his wife has appeared in a few episodes. One of his grandaughters travelled with him and stayed behind to marry a human and rebuild Earth after Daleks had devastated it.

Rose just rubbed me the wrong way. I thought she was one of the three worst companions ever. I agree about the parallel universe stuff.

His granddaughter was Susan. People debated for a long time if she was actually his granddaughter and he was married or if she just called him grandfather. But that was in the late 60's., The show premiered the day JFK was shot in Dallas. I think they played it again the next week because everyone was watching the news. There were no VCRs or anything like that then. I thought they DID do a good job recasting the first Doctor when they brought him back for The Five Doctors episode. Hurndall did a good job  of capturing Harnell's spirit. The Three Doctors and The Five Doctors are two of my favorite eps.

It does not surprise me that Doctor Who was one of the things the guys knew all about on TBBT.

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1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

People debated for a long time if she was actually his granddaughter and he was married or if she just called him grandfather. But that was in the late 60's.,

I didn't hear anything about that debate. It was mainly a children's programme in those days and we wouldn't have thought of anything so complicated in 1963. A teenage girl, however highly-educated and knowledgeable, travelling alone with an unrelated adult male wouldn't have been conceived of in them-thar innocent days.

BTW in those days when the normal school-leaving age for the type of pupils going to the type of school we saw Susan attending was fifteen, the idea of two teachers going to visit the home to discuss with a parent or guardian a child's staying on in education to sixteen or beyond because she was clever was not unusual at all. Susan was new and they wanted to know what was what. Many teachers took that sort of interest although it may look strange when the first episode is watched now.

Talking of schooldays, I suppose bullying fellow-students in one way or another has always happened but the type of persecution the TBBT gang said they suffered because they were intelligent was rarer or didn't happen to us in the early sixties. The idea of the high school where all adolescents in a certain area of town regardless of intellectual ability went to the same establishment was only just being thought of in England. In some towns it hasn't happened yet. I was at a different type of school from Susan's ( one for the clever ones who weren't leaving :) ) and doing my homework when the newsflash about the shooting  of Kennedy came on the TV.  The funeral was over by the time they re-showed the first episode of Dr Who the following week on the TV. I can't remember which version I saw.

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5 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Anyone see the Big Bang theory rememberence tribute on the Emmys tonight? Good tribute. Showed Leonard’s Slap. And had the slowed down Bare Naked Ladies theme. Johnny posted it 

 

I didn't watch, but I'm glad they remembered the show that was the best comedy had to offer for 12 years.

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Anyone see the Big Bang theory rememberence tribute on the Emmys tonight? Good tribute. Showed Leonard’s Slap. And had the slowed down Bare Naked Ladies theme. Johnny posted it 
 

A big faux pas not to have all seven of them (and Prady & Lorre) there.


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