[Spoilers] Season 12 Discussion Thread

[vonmar]

 

[mirs1]

https://tvline.com/2018/07/20/big-bang-theory-season-12-premiere-sheldon-amy-honeymoon-spoilers/

[3ku11]

So Shamy get a honeymoon but Leonard and Penny didn't? 😒. I would like to say I am surprised.  

[Die Zimtzicke]

If Jerry is at comic con I wonder if that bodes well for a reappearance by him on the show. Kathy Bates and Teller will be welcome as far as I'm concerned.

I am not at all surprised that they are going to work in Sheldon's friend, Tam. I saw that coming months ago.

 

1 minute ago, 3ku11 said:

So Shamy get a honeymoon but Leonard and Penny didn't? 😒. I would like to say I am surprised.  

I can't imagine why anyone would be surprised. I would have been perfectly happy without it but it in no way surprises me.

[chucky]

2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

Kathy Bates and Teller will be welcome as far as I'm concerned.

I have no problem with these two.

2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

can't imagine why anyone would be surprised. I would have been perfectly happy without it but it in no way surprises me.

No I am definitely not surprised at all. This is a Sheldon/Shamy centric show these days, But that's ok, I record the show then fast forward  past the Sheldon/shamy parts and just watch the rest. It's like watching a Lenny centric show.

[chucky]

3 hours ago, mirs1 said:

https://tvline.com/2018/07/20/big-bang-theory-season-12-premiere-sheldon-amy-honeymoon-spoilers/

Confirmed, no third Howard/Bernie child. Thank god!

[joyceraye]

3 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

So Shamy get a honeymoon but Leonard and Penny didn't? 😒. I would like to say I am surprised.  

Leonard and Penny didn't even plan a wedding, let alone where they might go afterwards. Penny didn't seem to want to set a date. She made a couple of excuses which didn't hold water if they'd booked it far enough ahead.  That's fair enough. Not everybody wants a big fuss. Lots of actors say they don't want the attention on them when they're being themselves and Leonard didn't exactly put pressure on. Possibly Penny was dreading the day. They didn't regret the hasty Las Vegas do.  Maybe when it came to the weekend Sheldon gave them they enjoyed it and decided to stay on.

Amy, on the other hand, knew even what she believed was four years ahead where she wanted to register for wedding presents. She enjoyed organising Bernadette's wedding and it was nobody's fault that the date had to be changed.  Howardette might consider going into space a bigger deal than an ordinary classic  wedding in front  of a pretty small congregation at an athenaeum. I don't believe Howardette didn't have a honeymoon, we just haven't heard it mentioned. I bet Amy thought of her own honeymoon at the same time as she decided on the timing of her wedding, or possibly even long before. Maybe while Shamy are away the others will talk about their honeymoons and we'll see flashbacks. We might get one of Lenny trying to shake off Sheldon on their trip.

[chucky]

5 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Leonard and Penny didn't even plan a wedding, let alone where they might go afterwards. Penny didn't seem to want to set a date. She made a couple of excuses which didn't hold water if they'd booked it far enough ahead.  That's fair enough. Not everybody wants a big fuss. Lots of actors say they don't want the attention on them when they're being themselves and Leonard didn't exactly put pressure on. Possibly Penny was dreading the day. They didn't regret the hasty Las Vegas do.  Maybe when it came to the weekend Sheldon gave them they enjoyed it and decided to stay on.

Amy, on the other hand, knew even what she believed was four years ahead where she wanted to register for wedding presents. She enjoyed organising Bernadette's wedding and it was nobody's fault that the date had to be changed.  Howardette might consider going into space a bigger deal than an ordinary classic  wedding in front  of a pretty small congregation at an athenaeum. I don't believe Howardette didn't have a honeymoon, we just haven't heard it mentioned. I bet Amy thought of her own honeymoon at the same time as she decided on the timing of her wedding, or possibly even long before. Maybe while Shamy are away the others will talk about their honeymoons and we'll see flashbacks. We might get one of Lenny trying to shake off Sheldon on their trip.

Totally agree. I also believe Howard/Bernadette had a honeymoon, but we weren't bored with the details. I guess we will not be so fortunate with this wedding/honeymoon.

[joyceraye]

27 minutes ago, chucky said:

Confirmed, no third Howard/Bernie child. Thank god!

So no court case over a failed vasectomy ? Phew !

[Taylor]

On 7/11/2018 at 12:39 PM, TBBT_FanAttic said:

I'm looking forward to Season 12 starting! Hopefully it brings new humor and beginnings.

Its no secret that the writers have struggled over the last 3/4 seasons to put out consistently good episodes in the way that they did from seasons 1 through 7. I'm praying that the writers can forget writing about heavy story arcs such as Shamy (as far as I'm concerned they're story is pretty much finalized) and Bernadette's babies. 

I want new, fresh comedy. Real comedy. That makes us laugh as much as we did in the first 7 seasons. I want group episodes like the scavenger hunt - imagine a paintball-themed Halloween episode for all 7. How good would that be? I want video games. I want science. I want old Sheldon. If this season is gonna work we need to keep Sheldon and Amy separated as much as possible or at least with everyone else in between them. I love Shamy. I really do. But as a couple they are overused and exhausted. Sheldon needs to be reverted until at least the season 7 version of himself. Tone down the sexualisation of the character. It's a little unrealistic that someone would convert from virtually asexual to someone who regularly has sex. Like Mayim Bialik said, it should have been more gradual and developed. It is all a little too sudden. Plus it kind of removes the uniqueness of Sheldon's character. They also need to tone down the whole Shamy relationship as it is advancing too quickly to the point where it is not unique to either character.

I want the writers to bring back everything that made us love our show as much as we do. Now that almost everyone is married, it's time to start from the start again. I'm all for character development, but the characters have become over-developed. Sheldon has changed so much that he is virtually unrecognisable. Bring back the geeky side of the guys. Bring back Penny's bitchier side (not in regard to Leonard though). For example, do and episode where one of the stories is Penny and Leonard out on date night where they run into Priya and her new husband who is basically a carbon-copy of Leonard. Explore how Penny reacts. Penny is the one character that has been disgracefully underused over the last 3/4 years. All the writers have her do is bounce jokes and give advice on other characters' issues. Which brings me on to my next point...

Penny should not be a pharmaceutical sales rep. As a character, it doesn't fit her. Penny hasn't really been herself since she gave up acting. That's where Penny should be. Perhaps not an actress, but at least as a presenter or weather girl or something. She has such a bold personality and she should undoubtedly be working in the entertainment industry. She's too good for the world of pharmaceuticals. Plus the fact that Penny just switched off her desire to achieve her wildest dreams doesn't give viewers much hope for their own. Please... Give Penny story lines! We need to see an unbalance in Leonard and Penny's relationship that will make it harder for them, but will ultimately reveal the intensified feelings for each other that will be vital to hold them together. Plus I'd love a scene at the cheesecake factory where Penny can finally be there and eat with the group. And maybe even complain about how bad the service is there. 

We need a group Christmas episode as well. Like in Season 7. One that makes us believe the closeness of the group and makes us, the viewers, feel warm and fuzzy inside. It would help us re-engage with the characters and become fully invested in their lives. Also episodes like 'The Prom Equivalency' work great for the show.

As bad as it sounds, I also want Howard and Bernadette's children to be ignored as much as possible. Just a mention here and there that Stuart is watching them is fine. One episode in the season we could see them interact with them, but that is as much as we need.

Raj needs to find a girlfriend as well. It could be a very funny, classic story-line if the girls set up a blind-dates for him in a bar. It would be very funny to see the wide array of people who are up for it. I honestly feel that Lucy is the girl for Raj and we could see Raj's consideration over giving her another chance. 

I feel like, at this stage, the writers should strive to achieve characters and storylines to be on the same level as in Season 7 when the show was at its peak in regard to viewing figures.

Season 12 needs to be spectacular. No dud episodes like we had in Seasons 8, 9, 10 and 11. We need full on, brilliant, award-winning comedy. The Big Bang Theory needs to regain its place as the best show on TV. Especially if this is the last season. It needs to be brilliant. This is the season the show will be remembered by. Please give us the final season we deserve. Or better still, never end the show.

 

 

 

Amen,🙏  Brother 

[chucky]

1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

So no court case over a failed vasectomy ? Phew !

Nope!  😊

[bfm]

7 hours ago, chucky said:

Confirmed, no third Howard/Bernie child. Thank god!

Probably the best news out of Comic Con this year.

[veejay]

After 11 years, I can imagine it becomes difficult to continue to create new storylines from such a contained world as offered by 7 different friends and (essentially) 3 settings (apartment(s), work, comic book store). I agree that growth and change is important to our long-term investment in these characters, although I don't typically look to this show for anything approaching hard-hitting dramatic themes. In general, I look to a sitcom to make me laugh, and I'm not put off by a lack of sentimentality.

But now the point seems to me to have reached where most of the action turns explicitly to just one character. Also, the starting premise (nerds, geeks, scientists against/with the real world) was increasingly pushed into the background in favor of the usual soap trivialities. The dialogues have given way to simple one-liners and are neither funny nor intelligent most of time. All this was predictable for a long time now, but since the so-called spinoff "Young Sheldon" it has become more and more unbearable for ME.

The only thing preventing me from ending my activities to this series and this forum are the expectable nostalgia pains and my appreciation towards many likeable fellows in this place. Thank you!

[djsurrey]

I don't see it that way. More like Howard here....

https://youtu.be/-wsKGEXke6g 

And this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5645575/Mayim-Bialik-freaks-social-media-meeting-Mark-Hamill-finale-Big-Bang-Theory.html 

so like Pharrell Williams I'm Happy.

 

Edited July 21, 2018 by djsurrey

[Die Zimtzicke]

9 hours ago, chucky said:

Confirmed, no third Howard/Bernie child. Thank god!

I didn't think they'd devote an ep to how the vasectomy failed.  That is not funny.

[veejay]

30 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

I don't see it that way. More like Howard here....

https://youtu.be/-wsKGEXke6g 

And this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5645575/Mayim-Bialik-freaks-social-media-meeting-Mark-Hamill-finale-Big-Bang-Theory.html 

so like Pharrell Williams I'm Happy.

 

Haha, I'm more like this... 😁

[hokie3457]

1 hour ago, veejay said:

After 11 years, I can imagine it becomes difficult to continue to create new storylines from such a contained world as offered by 7 different friends and (essentially) 3 settings (apartment(s), work, comic book store). I agree that growth and change is important to our long-term investment in these characters, although I don't typically look to this show for anything approaching hard-hitting dramatic themes. In general, I look to a sitcom to make me laugh, and I'm not put off by a lack of sentimentality.

But now the point seems to me to have reached where most of the action turns explicitly to just one character. Also, the starting premise (nerds, geeks, scientists against/with the real world) was increasingly pushed into the background in favor of the usual soap trivialities. The dialogues have given way to simple one-liners and are neither funny nor intelligent most of time. All this was predictable for a long time now, but since the so-called spinoff "Young Sheldon" it has become more and more unbearable for ME.

The only thing preventing me from ending my activities to this series and this forum are the expectable nostalgia pains and my appreciation towards many likeable fellows in this place. Thank you!

And thank you @veejay  ! The Forum would be a less enjoyable place if not for you!

[chucky]

7 hours ago, bfm said:

Probably the best news out of Comic Con this year.

Yessiree! Gotta love that. Also no thoughts of a Shamy baby either!

5 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I didn't think they'd devote an ep to how the vasectomy failed.  That is not funny.

Never said anything about that subject.

[Kev0821]

Now that we know a brief synopsis of the season premiere episode, I was thinking about potential titles. The first two that came to mind were "The Honeymoon Realization" and "The In-law Invasion." T-minus one month until the taping!

[luminous]

 

[chucky]

1 hour ago, luminous said:

 

Very nice!

[vonmar]

From TBBT You Tube Channel...

 

[chucky]

1 hour ago, vonmar said:

From TBBT You Tube Channel...

 

Thanks for sharing with us!

[joyceraye]

7 hours ago, chucky said:

12 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I didn't think they'd devote an ep to how the vasectomy failed.  That is not funny.

Never said anything about that subject.

Didn't they say no third child for Howardette ? That would have to mean nothing about a failed vasectomy. Otherwise it would have to be about no adoption or no AID or no IVF.

[djsurrey]

I don't think no third child is really news. The have been saying enough on babies for a while.