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3 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said:

I'd be happy with a double pregnancy story (Amy and Penny), ending with them going into labour together, at the end of the season.

That could be one funny episode. Penny and Amy in the delivery rooms and Leonard and Sheldon in the waiting room.

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7 hours ago, Sah said:

Twins?

It’s economical - they just need to wave an unrecognisable instagram screenshot they can get or make for free - and they won’t have to even struggle to satisfy the prophecy that foretold of plural kids. So a prop, some words, and Bob’s your uncle, job done. Babies. The rest is acting, and that’s already paid for. Seeing real infants might ruin the illusion. 

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6 hours ago, Jonny said:

But we will still get stories all season long revolving around that topic, which some of us quite frankly don't want to see/fed up of.

At the end of the day the writers will do what they want to do, I would much prefer a late in season possibly in the final episode announcement of a Penny pregnancy if it has to happen.  I would have them make a decision, maybe have it on screen an agreement that they might start trying and then final episode or around it we find out Penny is pregnant.

I've always been a fan of the idea of a flash forward in time scenes at the end of the final episode showing all the characters, I think that would be the perfect way to show the characters with their children and what happened with their lives after the show say in a few years time.  That way no invisible children you could have some child actors in pretaped scenes age dependent on how much of a jump it could be 5, 10 years and those that 'like that line' in the opening episode can enjoy it being delivered with a scene that shows his statement/prediction/dream to be true.

When you say that a late season announcement of a pregnancy would be preferred was exactly my thought when they said in episode 3 P&L would talk about having children. I just thought this was early for that topic and that is why I thought there might be a hidden agenda about this storyline.

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1 hour ago, chucky said:

That could be one funny episode. Penny and Amy in the delivery rooms and Leonard and Sheldon in the waiting room.

Why do Lenny moments have to be shared with  Shamy but Shamy  moments are never shared with Lenny? Except the one that Amy breaks up with Sheldon. We had to have Leonard cheating on Penny in that one.

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2 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

When you say that a late season announcement of a pregnancy would be preferred was exactly my thought when they said in episode 3 P&L would talk about having children. I just thought this was early for that topic and that is why I thought there might be a hidden agenda about this storyline.

Did they say it was going to be in episode 3 ? I thought it was one of those 'some time ' thoughts that they toss in the air occasionally. I've got to start keeping normal day time hours if I misread it.

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2 hours ago, Chrismo said:

I wouldn’t. It’s a story that should be only reserved for Lenny. Why does Shamy(Sheldon) have to interfere with another Lenny story?

My sentiments exactly!!

4 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

Did they say it was going to be in episode 3 ? I thought it was one of those 'some time ' thoughts that they toss in the air occasionally. I've got to start keeping normal day time hours if I misread it.

I read a short synopsis about the episode.  Whether it is actually portrayed that way when it is aired is another story

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36 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

or in the wrong delivery rooms.

That could be funnier!

34 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

Why do Lenny moments have to be shared with  Shamy but Shamy  moments are never shared with Lenny? Except the one that Amy breaks up with Sheldon. We had to have Leonard cheating on Penny in that one.

I was thinking more of the comedy value. But you are so right.

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6 hours ago, Jonny said:

But we will still get stories all season long revolving around that topic, which some of us quite frankly don't want to see/fed up of.

Could you explain why a fourth wedding story last year was just fine, but a third baby story this year is cause to be fed up, because there are too many baby stories?

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59 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

Why do Lenny moments have to be shared with  Shamy but Shamy  moments are never shared with Lenny? Except the one that Amy breaks up with Sheldon. We had to have Leonard cheating on Penny in that one.

I love Leonard and Penny not so much the other couples but I don’t get the worry about shared moments.  I want lots of Lenny but I want them to be funny.  

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15 minutes ago, Tensor said:

Could you explain why a fourth wedding story last year was just fine, but a third baby story this year is cause to be fed up, because there are too many baby stories?

How can I explain why I feel the way I do when I just genuinely 'feel' I am burnt out on Pregnancy/baby stories on this show.  I just feel that way.

If you felt that way about weddings on the show and how many they did, well that's how you felt.  I didn't feel that way about the topic.

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5 minutes ago, MsGreentea said:

I love Leonard and Penny not so much the other couples but I don’t get the worry about shared moments.  I want lots of Lenny but I want them to be funny.  

Okay. I give you an example that could of been funny in the finale last year. Right in the middle of the I do’s Penny threw up all over on Amy and her dress ( I know some would liked that anyways). Penny was escorted off and they finished the i do’s. Amy and Sheldon left like they did. The tag could of been Penny feeling better and the gang wondering what happened. Someone could of suggested (Bernadette) that maybe she’s pregnant. The episode ends with Penny looking at a  pregnancy stick. The first episode started the same way and in 5 seconds it could be mentioned she wasn’t pregnant. I’m guessing many would not have liked an episode like that because it took away from the wedding. 

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I think Penny will become pregnant at some point this Season. Maybe Episode 3 or the last one. Who knows. Personally, I would like to see Leonard and Penny having a baby on one of the last 2 Episodes as it would be a tie in to the first Episode. If it only 1 or 2 Episodes near the of the series it would be a big deal

 

Having babies is a fact of life for Marriages and they are all pushing mid to late 30s now.

 

Leonard and Penny have been married for 3 years now. The first child is generally born within 1-3 years after marriage

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Jonny said:

How can I explain why I feel the way I do when I just genuinely 'feel' I am burnt out on Pregnancy/baby stories on this show.  I just feel that way.

If you felt that way about weddings on the show and how many they did, well that's how you felt.  I didn't feel that way about the topic.

Fair enough.  I just didn't understand why only a possible third baby story was too many, but a a season long fourth wedding story was just fine.  

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13 hours ago, Nogravitasatall said:

ultrasound images of the twins in s12,

I don’t think Penny and Leonard have a twins if they have a child. 

It would probably be shamy because twins run in Sheldon’s family

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2 minutes ago, Burberry said:

I don’t think Penny and Leonard have a twins if they have a child. 

It would probably be shamy because twins run in Sheldon’s family

I believe the twin gene is more expressed through the female-being that she releases two eggs when ovulating? I’m a (dreaded-useless-funding swallowing. Choose what you may!) liberal arts major so any help from more scientific minds would be appreciated!!!

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I've said it before, but here it is again:  

Final episode opens with Lenny discovering they are pregnant and them going around telling everyone the good news.  A 9 month time jump happens before the tag scene.  Tag scene is Penny going into labor and getting into the newly repaired elevator to go to the hospital to have the smart and beautiful baby.

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42 minutes ago, Carm6773 said:

I've said it before, but here it is again:  

Final episode opens with Lenny discovering they are pregnant and them going around telling everyone the good news.  A 9 month time jump happens before the tag scene.  Tag scene is Penny going into labor and getting into the newly repaired elevator to go to the hospital to have the smart and beautiful baby.

I wouldn't mind that. I like that 

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10 hours ago, KripkeRules said:

@Tensor, actually when I first posted, I didn't mean you. I was against this statement. That's an absurd statement and I can see why some other people responded it. 

My point is everyone watch the show differently, so to some people, yes, no Lenny baby will tarnish the show for them, but to other people, no, not one little bit. But why tie the "want Lenny baby" with "being a 12 years fan" together? Not just fan, but FAN, all capital. 

Every kind of fan is a part of the all fans of the show, so no need to "upgrade" Lenny fans wishes to the "all fan" 's level, in my opinion. 

And the snarky thing, I'll avoid it if I can resist. 

To be honest the Lenny in the past seasons hasn’t been the best, and the other couples IMO have been getting more attention, so I don’t think it would be all that bad to finally give Lenny fans what they have been asking for. After all, Lenny was the main couple of the show (even if they are giving shamy a lot more screen time now) and since the beginning, they were the main plot. So it’s not really all about Lenny itself, but about wrapping the show just how they started it. As stated before, for me an announcement in the last episode would be more than enough

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15 minutes ago, Carm6773 said:

I've said it before, but here it is again:  

Final episode opens with Lenny discovering they are pregnant and them going around telling everyone the good news.  A 9 month time jump happens before the tag scene.  Tag scene is Penny going into labor and getting into the newly repaired elevator to go to the hospital to have the smart and beautiful baby.

I'd be able to live with that. LOL

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20 minutes ago, Carm6773 said:

I've said it before, but here it is again:  

Final episode opens with Lenny discovering they are pregnant and them going around telling everyone the good news.  A 9 month time jump happens before the tag scene.  Tag scene is Penny going into labor and getting into the newly repaired elevator to go to the hospital to have the smart and beautiful baby.

That would make a great show finale for me!

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1 hour ago, Carm6773 said:

I've said it before, but here it is again:  

Final episode opens with Lenny discovering they are pregnant and them going around telling everyone the good news.  A 9 month time jump happens before the tag scene.  Tag scene is Penny going into labor and getting into the newly repaired elevator to go to the hospital to have the smart and beautiful baby.

Yes this would be a good way to end the show.  However, don't you think that Lenny would be shortchanged again?  I cannot remember a story arc with them that had some kind of resolution.  Throughout the year that they were engaged there was not one episode where they talked about wedding plans except for the season finale where they eloped and then had that ridiculous argument.  They had a redo wedding that was quickly thrown together and marred, IMO, by Sheldon's asshat manners.  There were arguments and bickering throughout season 10 culminating in an RA that was never heard about again so we do not know what was resolved.  And in season 11 they primarily were secondary characters advising their friends and having to bear Shamy's unending scientific approaches to wedding planning.  So, what I am saying is don't you think that Lenny deserves a solid, meaningful storyline whether its having a baby, job promotions, buying a house, etc.  to close out this terrific show and yes possibly to come full circle from the pilot episode.  Sorry for ranting but I kind of had to write down what was rolling around in my head.

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1 hour ago, hokie3457 said:

I believe the twin gene is more expressed through the female-being that she releases two eggs when ovulating? I’m a (dreaded-useless-funding swallowing. Choose what you may!) liberal arts major so any help from more scientific minds would be appreciated!!!

Identical twins come from one egg. Fraternal twins (like Sheldon & Missy) are two-egged.

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