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1 hour ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

My late father in law's favorite thing...we actually used to buy him huge jars of it as gifts.

My Southern Redneck Grandmother had a love for pickled pig's feet and pickled eggs. Although I am a Southern Redneck as well, I have no love for those delicacies. God. give me a steak, fried chicken and moonshine.

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2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

My late father in law's favorite thing...we actually used to buy him huge jars of it as gifts.

Just noting there was a quoting error, the post you quoted was made by veejay

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7 hours ago, bfm said:

Ever since I found out they "wrote against" Lenny having children as a strategy to make it a surprise in the finale, I just don't take Penny not wanting kids seriously. I don't see this position as genuine anymore. The whole thing felt so OOC and against what we've seen prior to it because it was. It wasn't something that stemmed from the character and its experiences, it was something that was dropped on the character due to production interests, even though it didn't fit. 

If I do try to "fill in the blanks", I'd go with that it's not that Penny genuinely didn't want to have kids but that due to anxieties and feelings of inferiority (we did get glimpses of that from her over the years) she decided to give up on that. Finding out she was pregnant would make it poured out of her and then Leonard would find out. Those kind of feelings are something Leonard knows and understands well, he has battled with them successfully, especially in his quest to be with Penny. He would give her support and understanding, making them stronger than ever (as they seem in the finale).

Great analysis of their relationship!

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17 hours ago, bfm said:

Ever since I found out they "wrote against" Lenny having children as a strategy to make it a surprise in the finale, I just don't take Penny not wanting kids seriously. I don't see this position as genuine anymore. The whole thing felt so OOC and against what we've seen prior to it because it was. It wasn't something that stemmed from the character and its experiences, it was something that was dropped on the character due to production interests, even though it didn't fit. 

If I do try to "fill in the blanks", I'd go with that it's not that Penny genuinely didn't want to have kids but that due to anxieties and feelings of inferiority (we did get glimpses of that from her over the years) she decided to give up on that. Finding out she was pregnant would make it poured out of her and then Leonard would find out. Those kind of feelings are something Leonard knows and understands well, he has battled with them successfully, especially in his quest to be with Penny. He would give her support and understanding, making them stronger than ever (as they seem in the finale).

I always felt they took this playing around with Lenny, giving them all these difficult situations to deal with, almost too far.  You notice the huge difference between Lenny’s breakup, which lasted for years, and the fluffy little breakups Shamy and Howardette had, also how they both got together quickly while Lenny took several episodes to even date again, and even then the first time they have sex they have another conflict again.  The whole not wanting a baby thing just proved to me that the writers and show runner had gotten ridiculous in their treatment of Lenny, gone way too far, because Lenny had hinted at kids in their future throughout the series, so her suddenly not wanting them made absolutely no sense.  I sometimes think that when the writers didn’t know what to write about in the show, their go to idea was to screw with Lenny.

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1 hour ago, SRAM said:

I sometimes think that when the writers didn’t know what to write about in the show, their go to idea was to screw with Lenny.

I agree. That was their go to plan! I think they should have cut the kitchen island bar in half and gave a half each to Johnny and Kaley since they spent so much time there the last few years. Especially after they got married!

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2 hours ago, legacy99 said:

After watching some of the season 8 reruns I now know why i didn't watch them when the were 1st run

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
 

So, in my humble opinion, Season 8 was the worst. Although some may disagree, I will stand by that statement!

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On 12/9/2021 at 3:32 AM, Tensor said:

 Even the weddings seemed off to me and I resented that for the couple I love.  

Yes, they were on the scrappy side, weren't they. Granted, comedy writers need to make life-events such as weddings and births funny and out of the ordinary, but Lenny's two together didn't add up to a decent one. Howardette's was hurriedly re-arrange and performed under exciting circumstances and I've no doubt they had their planned big do when Howard got back, although we were never shown it.  Amy and Sheldon had something that looked the closest to conventional, although the athenaeum wasn't exactly packed.

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2 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Yes, they were on the scrappy side, weren't they. Granted, comedy writers need to make life-events such as weddings and births funny and out of the ordinary, but Lenny's two together didn't add up to a decent one. Howardette's was hurriedly re-arrange and performed under exciting circumstances and I've no doubt they had their planned big do when Howard got back, although we were never shown it.  Amy and Sheldon had something that looked the closest to conventional, although the athenaeum wasn't exactly packed.

Yes  Penny and Leonard were always given the short end of the stick.  I believe there were more people at Shamy wedding than at Lenny wedding where they also cut the scenes after the ceremony. And of course Sheldon had to ruin both Lenny weddings by being his selfish self-centered child

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4 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

Yes, Penny and Leonard were always given the short end of the stick.  I believe there were more people at Shamy wedding than at Lenny wedding where they also cut the scenes after the ceremony. And of course Sheldon had to ruin both Lenny weddings by being his selfish self-centered child

Sheldon almost always put himself between Penny and Leonard. He even thought he should go on the honeymoon with Leonard. For a genius, he was so clueless about life.

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28 minutes ago, chucky said:

Sheldon almost always put himself between Penny and Leonard. He even thought he should go on the honeymoon with Leonard. For a genius, he was so clueless about life.

That was another situation that was unresolved: Lenny honeymoon  Did Sheldon actually go with them or did they tell him they want to be alone? This was never answered

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4 hours ago, Mario D. said:

That was another situation that was unresolved: Lenny honeymoon  Did Sheldon actually go with them or did they tell him they want to be alone? This was never answered

True. We know he gave them tickets to San Francisco and intended to go as well. But did he go or did Lenny go without him? We don't know.

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10 hours ago, NeckShotLime said:

I didn't like that line, it was unnecessarily harsh IMO, a classic Penny eye roll would have accomplished the same thing 

True  The second half of season 9 and season 10 they made Penny very snarky to Leonard. And it seemed so out of character for her after praising Leonard in her wedding vows  (both of them)  The writers just could not resist these put-downs and write them as a truly loving couple.

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