[Spoilers] Season 12 Dark Lenny Thread

[chucky]

11 hours ago, JohnPhD said:

This thread was 39 pages, now it's 38? How did that happen?

Very interesting indeedy!

[Tensor]

Hint, I see 40 pages.  

[chucky]

4 hours ago, Tensor said:

Hint, I see 40 pages.  

OK, enough said!  

[Die Zimtzicke]

4 hours ago, Tensor said:

Hint, I see 40 pages.

I see 39.

[chucky]

25 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I see 39.

His is different!

[SRAM]

You know the biggest thing I took from tonight’s show is the feeling that now Lenny are the third tier couple in the show.

[veejay]

1 hour ago, SRAM said:

You know the biggest thing I took from tonight’s show is the feeling that now Lenny are the third tier couple in the show.

Exactly!

[veejay]

I think these short impressions sum up today's episode very briefly from Lenny's point of view.

[hokie3457]

1 hour ago, veejay said:

I think these short impressions sum up today's episode very briefly from Lenny's point of view.

 

 

This last one was very cute in the episode, a little body language and body English nudging her man to give up their dinner, which sacrifice ended up unappreciated, but that quick moment was sweet.

[veejay]

30 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

This last one was very cute in the episode, a little body language and body English nudging her man to give up their dinner, which sacrifice ended up unappreciated, but that quick moment was sweet.

Yeah, I agree with you. Unfortunately, it's increasingly the only thing I can still observe joyfully on the two of them. Their synchronic reactions with each other are actually always recognizable in their body or facial language.

But I would much rather have a story spanning the whole episode without the usual smack of the necessary role as the funny kitchen island residents, if you know what I mean. 😉

Edited November 16, 2018 by veejay

[chucky]

44 minutes ago, veejay said:

Yeah, I agree with you. Unfortunately, it's increasingly the only thing I can still observe joyfully on the two of them. Their synchronic reactions with each other are actually always recognizable in their body or facial language.

But I would much rather have a story spanning the whole episode without the usual smack of the necessary role as the funny kitchen island residents, if you know what I mean. 😉

I whole heartedly agree!!

[SRAM]

1 hour ago, veejay said:

Yeah, I agree with you. Unfortunately, it's increasingly the only thing I can still observe joyfully on the two of them. Their synchronic reactions with each other are actually always recognizable in their body or facial language.

But I would much rather have a story spanning the whole episode without the usual smack of the necessary role as the funny kitchen island residents, if you know what I mean. 😉

If you ignore how they had no other purpose than to act as supporting characters, Leonard and Penny were written well last night.  They were funny as a couple, showed to be good friends to Shamy and the scenes with Penny and Bernadette were funny, BTW at the end of the episode did anyone else get the impression that Penny just let Bernadette win to make her happy?

The thing that got me tonight again is we see Bernadette again confirming why she is with Howard, something we have seen more and more from her, her sexy little astronaut.  However, Penny is more the opposite and we never get her being vocal about why she is with Leonard anymore, her little asthmatic dumbass.

[chucky]

19 minutes ago, SRAM said:

If you ignore how they had no other purpose than to act as supporting characters, Leonard and Penny were written well last night.  They were funny as a couple, showed to be good friends to Shamy and the scenes with Penny and Bernadette were funny, BTW at the end of the episode did anyone else get the impression that Penny just let Bernadette win to make her happy?

The thing that got me tonight again is we see Bernadette again confirming why she is with Howard, something we have seen more and more from her, her sexy little astronaut.  However, Penny is more the opposite and we never get her being vocal about why she is with Leonard anymore, her little asthmatic dumbass.

But, she loves her asthmatic dumbass! Especially when he's the "BOSS MAN".

[veejay]

1 hour ago, SRAM said:

.snip.   BTW at the end of the episode did anyone else get the impression that Penny just let Bernadette win to make her happy?  ./snip

Sure!  😁

[hokie3457]

1 hour ago, SRAM said:

If you ignore how they had no other purpose than to act as supporting characters, Leonard and Penny were written well last night.  They were funny as a couple, showed to be good friends to Shamy and the scenes with Penny and Bernadette were funny, BTW at the end of the episode did anyone else get the impression that Penny just let Bernadette win to make her happy?

The thing that got me tonight again is we see Bernadette again confirming why she is with Howard, something we have seen more and more from her, her sexy little astronaut.  However, Penny is more the opposite and we never get her being vocal about why she is with Leonard anymore, her little asthmatic dumbass.

It’s a bit of a weird thing they do with her (Penny’s) character, isn’t it? It is only with herself or alone with Leonard (only occasionally with him) that she drops her “mask” and her true feelings are revealed. I recently saw that awful Season 10 episode in which she accuses Leonard of sort of giving up on the day-to-day things in their marriage. Her “dream” version of Leonard was telling for me. I know itvwas only a daydream, but we saw that he matters and she does want and need him....

[chucky]

9 hours ago, hokie3457 said:

I recently saw that awful Season 10 episode in which she accuses Leonard of sort of giving up on the day-to-day things in their marriage

That was a ridiculous episode. As if Leonard would take her for granted. Also after years of a Roommate agreement, why would Lenny allow Cooper to write up a relationship agreement that they surely don't need! 

Edited November 17, 2018 by chucky
right to write

[veejay]

15 hours ago, chucky said:

That was a ridiculous episode. As if Leonard would take her for granted. Also after years of a Roommate agreement, why would Lenny allow Cooper to write up a relationship agreement that they surely don't need! 

Big.. Bam.. Splash..!

[Zephon75]

On 11/16/2018 at 5:20 AM, SRAM said:

You know the biggest thing I took from tonight’s show is the feeling that now Lenny are the third tier couple in the show.

In my opinion they've been portrayed as the third tier couple ever since the first time Bernadette got pregnant.

[chucky]

4 hours ago, veejay said:

Big.. Bam.. Splash..!

Okay Dokay!

3 hours ago, Zephon75 said:

In my opinion they've been portrayed as the third tier couple ever since the first time Bernadette got pregnant.

Soooo true!!!!

[Mario D.]

22 hours ago, chucky said:

That was a ridiculous episode. As if Leonard would take her for granted. Also after years of a Roommate agreement, why would Lenny allow Cooper to write up a relationship agreement that they surely don't need! 

I agree  This episode was the worst one for me after "Roommate Transmogrification"  It definitely showed Leonard and Penny for that matter, way out of character. And the RA was so contrived it was obvious it was put in to get laughs but was not all funny to me.

[SRAM]

3 hours ago, Mario D. said:

I agree  This episode was the worst one for me after "Roommate Transmogrification"  It definitely showed Leonard and Penny for that matter, way out of character. And the RA was so contrived it was obvious it was put in to get laughs but was not all funny to me.

That is a perfect example of lazy writing, let’s just throw in a funny plot of Leonard taking Penny for granted because no one can think of anything else and it is getting late.  Let’s not even consider that this is 180 degrees opposite of the character we have built for Leonard throughout the show.

[chucky]

1 hour ago, SRAM said:

That is a perfect example of lazy writing, let’s just throw in a funny plot of Leonard taking Penny for granted because no one can think of anything else and it is getting late.  Let’s not even consider that this is 180 degrees opposite of the character we have built for Leonard throughout the show.

Some people on this forum will disagree and say it was a good episode. To me, it was a complete wast of tape, actors time and money spent to make this episode!

[Zephon75]

8 hours ago, Mario D. said:

I agree  This episode was the worst one for me after "Roommate Transmogrification"  It definitely showed Leonard and Penny for that matter, way out of character. And the RA was so contrived it was obvious it was put in to get laughs but was not all funny to me.

Agreed to this day everytime i watch 10x13 The Romance Recalibration, i always come away thinking that it was done that way deliberately by the writers. I have never seen an episode where they had characters be so ooc, making Lenny be at odds with each other and the Shamy all lovey dovey. I'm we had Penny dreaming about Leonard being all romantic, only be brought out of it by Leonard burping. If that wasn't ooc for Leonard we had him slouched on the couch in his underwear , something he has never done. And like people have pointed out , the way he was portrayed was more fitting for Howard than Leonard.

We then had them have a argument about his supposedly lack of effort in doing nice things for her in their relationship , Leonard points out he has done lots over the years. Penny not only gets mad at him but basically says she doesn't want to see him for a awhile by saying she's going to take Amy with her to the spa instead of him.

The Shamy imo where even more ooc than Lenny , they had them kiss in front of Lenny something they have never done ever but here they where doing it whilst Lenny where at odds. They then had the ridiculous sequence of i miss yous which just didn't fit their characters at all, but the most ridiculous thing happened when Leonard and Sheldon arrived at the spa. We got Amy's ridiculous overreaction to Sheldon asking how she was , where  Amy was acting like he'd just said something extremely romantic. Then we got a unseen conversation between Leonard & Penny which would have been better than watching the Shamy sit there in chairs and Sheldon commenting on his drink.

Of course the worst part of  the episode was them asking for a RA , that was so ooc for them but apparently they needed to one because they suddenly couldn't function as a couple . Basically the writers where saying they have to be more like the Shamy for their relationship to work, i'm just glad it has never been brought up since... so far.

So to me the whole purpose of the episode was to elevate the Shamy at the detriment of Lenny, and the only way Lenny could be made better was to make them more like Shamy by giving them a RA.

Edited November 18, 2018 by Zephon75

[chucky]

47 minutes ago, Zephon75 said:

Agreed to this day everytime i watch 10x13 The Romance Recalibration, i always come away thinking that it was done that way deliberately by the writers. I have never seen an episode where they had characters be so ooc, making Lenny be at odds with each other and the Shamy all lovey dovey. I'm we had Penny dreaming about Leonard being all romantic, only be brought out of it by Leonard burping. If that wasn't ooc for Leonard we had him slouched on the couch in his underwear , something he has never done. And like people have pointed out , the way he was portrayed was more fitting for Howard than Leonard.

We then had them have a argument about his supposedly lack of effort in doing nice things for her in their relationship , Leonard points out he has done lots over the years. Penny not only gets mad at him but basically says she doesn't want to see him for a awhile by saying she's going to take Amy with her to the spa instead of him.

The Shamy imo where even more ooc than Lenny , they had them kiss in front of Lenny something they have never done ever but here they where doing it whilst Lenny where at odds. They then had the ridiculous sequence of i miss yous which just didn't fit their characters at all, but the most ridiculous thing happened when Leonard and Sheldon arrived at the spa. We got Amy's ridiculous overreaction to Sheldon asking how she was , where  Amy was acting like he'd just said something extremely romantic. Then we got a unseen conversation between Leonard & Penny which would have been better than watching the Shamy sit there in chairs and Sheldon commenting on his drink.

Of course the worst part of  the episode was them asking for a RA , that was so ooc for them but apparently they needed to one because they suddenly couldn't function as a couple . Basically the writers where saying they have to be more like the Shamy for their relationship to work, i'm just glad it has never been brought up since... so far.

So to me the whole purpose of the episode was to elevate the Shamy at the detriment of Lenny, and the only way Lenny could be made better was to make them more like Shamy by giving them RA.

Perfectly said! I refuse to watch it in reruns for those very reasons. I really didn't recognize Lenny or Shamy as they were so OOC!!

[Mario D.]

1 hour ago, Zephon75 said:

Agreed to this day everytime i watch 10x13 The Romance Recalibration, i always come away thinking that it was done that way deliberately by the writers. I have never seen an episode where they had characters be so ooc, making Lenny be at odds with each other and the Shamy all lovey dovey. I'm we had Penny dreaming about Leonard being all romantic, only be brought out of it by Leonard burping. If that wasn't ooc for Leonard we had him slouched on the couch in his underwear , something he has never done. And like people have pointed out , the way he was portrayed was more fitting for Howard than Leonard.

We then had them have a argument about his supposedly lack of effort in doing nice things for her in their relationship , Leonard points out he has done lots over the years. Penny not only gets mad at him but basically says she doesn't want to see him for a awhile by saying she's going to take Amy with her to the spa instead of him.

The Shamy imo where even more ooc than Lenny , they had them kiss in front of Lenny something they have never done ever but here they where doing it whilst Lenny where at odds. They then had the ridiculous sequence of i miss yous which just didn't fit their characters at all, but the most ridiculous thing happened when Leonard and Sheldon arrived at the spa. We got Amy's ridiculous overreaction to Sheldon asking how she was , where  Amy was acting like he'd just said something extremely romantic. Then we got a unseen conversation between Leonard & Penny which would have been better than watching the Shamy sit there in chairs and Sheldon commenting on his drink.

Of course the worst part of  the episode was them asking for a RA , that was so ooc for them but apparently they needed to one because they suddenly couldn't function as a couple . Basically the writers where saying they have to be more like the Shamy for their relationship to work, i'm just glad it has never been brought up since... so far.

So to me the whole purpose of the episode was to elevate the Shamy at the detriment of Lenny, and the only way Lenny could be made better was to make them more like Shamy by giving them a RA.

Yes , to me the RA was glaring stupidity for Lenny and did not serve one single purpose other than for laughs. But what really annoyed me was like you mention we do not see the conversation with Lenny and see  what the problem was nor how they came to the conclusion of asking for an RA. I guess the writers just cannot write a serious dialogue for Lenny and had to resort to Shamy nonsense.  How pathetic!