[Spoilers] Season 12 Dark Lenny Thread

[chucky]

1 hour ago, veejay said:

Please, don't tell the writers. 😀

We could definitely do without those.

[Die Zimtzicke]

2 hours ago, chucky said:

We could definitely do without those.

The other one was awful. That was one of my least favorite eps ever.

[chucky]

8 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

The other one was awful. That was one of my least favorite eps ever.

Amen to that!

[JohnPhD]

So we have to see Shamy on honeymoon? How revolting. 2 Months to go til S12 and already all hope is gone. Maybe it's better that way. "I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand".

But WHY have they destroyed a great show by sidelining their star actress??

[3ku11]

4 minutes ago, JohnPhD said:

So we have to see Shamy on honeymoon? How revolting. 2 Months to go til S12 and already all hope is gone. Maybe it's better that way. "I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand".

But WHY have they destroyed a great show by sidelining their star actress??

Just watch S1-6 reruns. I am doing that right now hahah. 

I have said in the past, I Don't want to deter this into critisizing Shamy. But I felt they jumped the shark a bit. When they transistioned Shamy from this alternative, quirky couple. To the almost romantic hero and herione of the series. And sidelining Leonard and Penny as bystanders. Of course culminating with Sheldon proposing. But that is just my personal views. 

Edited July 27, 2018 by 3ku11

[chucky]

1 hour ago, 3ku11 said:

Just watch S1-6 reruns. I am doing that right now hahah. 

I have said in the past, I Don't want to deter this into critisizing Shamy. But I felt they jumped the shark a bit. When they transistioned Shamy from this alternative, quirky couple. To the almost romantic hero and herione of the series. And sidelining Leonard and Penny as bystanders. Of course culminating with Sheldon proposing. But that is just my personal views. 

Not just your view. I feel the exact same way.

[joyceraye]

5 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Just watch S1-6 reruns. I am doing that right now hahah. 

I have said in the past, I Don't want to deter this into critisizing Shamy. But I felt they jumped the shark a bit. When they transistioned Shamy from this alternative, quirky couple. To the almost romantic hero and herione of the series. And sidelining Leonard and Penny as bystanders. Of course culminating with Sheldon proposing. But that is just my personal views. 

There's plenty of opportunity yet for Shamy to be shown as quirky and alternative. 'You're my heartworm, not the poodle-killing kind' isn't the sort of thing everyday couples say. Time goes on, people get older, they go through a romantic phase and get married. I hope this year we're going to see strangeness in all the couples' homes, not just references to having been to conventions. 

On 7/25/2018 at 12:55 PM, bfm said:

 

Edited July 28, 2018 by joyceraye
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[Zephon75]

8 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Just watch S1-6 reruns. I am doing that right now hahah. 

I have said in the past, I Don't want to deter this into critisizing Shamy. But I felt they jumped the shark a bit. When they transistioned Shamy from this alternative, quirky couple. To the almost romantic hero and herione of the series. And sidelining Leonard and Penny as bystanders. Of course culminating with Sheldon proposing. But that is just my personal views. 

Exactly, and in season eleven it was all the more obvious as they had the Shamy doing the things Lenny used too do. Like kissing , bed scenes and eating meals together whilst having a conversation. They where all things Lenny did , but it's seems that when they had the Shamy start doing them they where taken away from Lenny.  We really need the writers to sort this out and bring back the balance we used to have like season six, no couple dominated that season and that's how i'd like S12 to be. Unfortunately it already sounds like it's going to be another season of  the Shamy & Friends Show, which is not what I want to see.

[Swedish Chef]

32 minutes ago, Zephon75 said:

Exactly, and in season eleven it was all the more obvious as they had the Shamy doing the things Lenny used too do. Like kissing , bed scenes and eating meals together whilst having a conversation. They where all things Lenny did , but it's seems that when they had the Shamy start doing them they where taken away from Lenny.  We really need the writers to sort this out and bring back the balance we used to have like season six, no couple dominated that season and that's how i'd like S12 to be. Unfortunately it already sounds like it's going to be another season of  the Shamy & Friends Show, which is not what I want to see.

At the moment it feels like we're gonna get two shows about Sheldon: Young Sheldon and Older Sheldon (TBBT).

[chucky]

27 minutes ago, Swedish Chef said:

At the moment it feels like we're gonna get two shows about Sheldon: Young Sheldon and Older Sheldon (TBBT).

That's wayyyyy too much Sheldon for this ole' country boy.

[veejay]

1 hour ago, Zephon75 said:

Exactly, and in season eleven it was all the more obvious as they had the Shamy doing the things Lenny used too do. Like kissing , bed scenes and eating meals together whilst having a conversation. They where all things Lenny did , but it's seems that when they had the Shamy start doing them they where taken away from Lenny.  We really need the writers to sort this out and bring back the balance we used to have like season six, no couple dominated that season and that's how i'd like S12 to be. Unfortunately it already sounds like it's going to be another season of  the Shamy & Friends Show, which is not what I want to see.

That's my impression too. For me Season 6 was by far the best from today's point of view. A highlight of the development in group dynamics, puns and interesting storylines for all characters. Since Season 8 the direction was for the first time clearly more one-sidedly directed towards the so-called cash cow and led to the climax with the rather desperate attempt of the later prequel with Young Sheldon.
The result will probably be more evident in the new season than before. As a big fan of the series but a "non-shipper", with a clear tendency to discover Lenny's daily adventures, I have to come to terms with the fact that in the future I will have to explore my pain threshold further without going too far, or...
Well, I'm a desperate believer of Cornfield-Penny, but sometimes I've to spit out some…

Let's see.

[chucky]

14 minutes ago, veejay said:

That's my impression too. For me Season 6 was by far the best from today's point of view. A highlight of the development in group dynamics, puns and interesting storylines for all characters. Since Season 8 the direction was for the first time clearly more one-sidedly directed towards the so-called cash cow and led to the climax with the rather desperate attempt of the later prequel with Young Sheldon.
The result will probably be more evident in the new season than before. As a big fan of the series but a "non-shipper", with a clear tendency to discover Lenny's daily adventures, I have to come to terms with the fact that in the future I will have to explore my pain threshold further without going too far, or...
Well, I'm a desperate believer of Cornfield-Penny, but sometimes I've to spit out some…

Let's see.

Damn, she does that so good. It looks like a real occurence  not acted. That speaks volumes for her acting abilities!

[JohnPhD]

9 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

Just watch S1-6 reruns. I am doing that right now hahah. 

 

I don't understand why some Lennys don't include S7 in the canon. It started with P & L's reunion on Leonard's return from the North Sea expedition. Above all, Penny and Leonard got engaged in that season. We had proper focus on Penny's career. It also includes the only time Penny said 3 words that would have improved almost every episode of every subsequent season: "Amy, get out!".

[chucky]

1 hour ago, JohnPhD said:

I don't understand why some Lennys don't include S7 in the canon. It started with P & L's reunion on Leonard's return from the North Sea expedition. Above all, Penny and Leonard got engaged in that season. We had proper focus on Penny's career. It also includes the only time Penny said 3 words that would have improved almost every episode of every subsequent season: "Amy, get out!".

To me, season 7 was around the time Penny's snarky, snide remarks toward Leonard started.

[Zephon75]

2 hours ago, JohnPhD said:

I don't understand why some Lennys don't include S7 in the canon. It started with P & L's reunion on Leonard's return from the North Sea expedition. Above all, Penny and Leonard got engaged in that season. We had proper focus on Penny's career. It also includes the only time Penny said 3 words that would have improved almost every episode of every subsequent season: "Amy, get out!".

Well I like season 7 more than the last four seasons , although whilst saying that it does have some episodes that I could do without or annoyed me. 

[chucky]

4 minutes ago, Zephon75 said:

Well I like season 7 more than the last four seasons , although whilst saying that it does have some episodes that I could do without or annoyed me. 

Season 7 was heads and shoulders better than Season Hate (8)!

[JohnPhD]

25 minutes ago, chucky said:

Season 7 was heads and shoulders better than Season Hate (8)!

Which in turn was better than  10 and 11. And, I expect, 12.

[chucky]

2 minutes ago, JohnPhD said:

Which in turn was better than  10 and 11. And, I expect, 12.

Season 7 or Season Hate?

[JohnPhD]

9 minutes ago, chucky said:

Season 7 or Season Hate?

8.

[chucky]

4 minutes ago, JohnPhD said:

8.

Nah, IMHO, Season Hate (8) is the worst Season, followed closely by Season 10!

[Zephon75]

4 minutes ago, chucky said:

Nah, IMHO, Season Hate (8) is the worst Season, followed closely by Season 10!

I don't know in season 8 it was boring for Lenny fans ,and there engagement was ignored until the final episode when we got that ridiculous confession. Season 9 we had Penny being snarky and mean to Leonard. In season 10 we had more snarkiness and on top of that we got quite a few arguments in the second half of the season. In season 11 it was again boring for Lenny fans as they where mostly overlooked , so it was similar to season 8 just no stupid confession this time. 

[chucky]

4 minutes ago, Zephon75 said:

I don't know in season 8 it was boring for Lenny fans ,and there engagement was ignored until the final episode when we got that ridiculous confession. Season 9 we had Penny being snarky and mean to Leonard. In season 10 we had more snarkiness and on top of that we got quite a few arguments in the second half of the season. In season 11 it was again boring for Lenny fans as they where mostly overlooked , so it was similar to season 8 just no stupid confession this time. 

I want to agree, but I tend to remember Penny spending more time with Sheldon than usual. Remember Anything can happen Thursday when she left Leonard with Amy and Bernadette. She took Sheldon to dinner and then the psychic? She was engaged to Leonard but failed to act like it unless it suited her needs. She seemed to care more for Sheldon's feelings than Leonard. Honestly, I was beginning to think they were headed to shenny.

[Zephon75]

22 minutes ago, chucky said:

I want to agree, but I tend to remember Penny spending more time with Sheldon than usual. Remember Anything can happen Thursday when she left Leonard with Amy and Bernadette. She took Sheldon to dinner and then the psychic? She was engaged to Leonard but failed to act like it unless it suited her needs. She seemed to care more for Sheldon's feelings than Leonard. Honestly, I was beginning to think they were headed to shenny.

That was in season 7 and was one of the episodes I was referring to that annoyed me , as Leonard hadn't done anything wrong but Penny acted like he did. And to clarify Amy & Bernadette both went to a bar to avoid Penny & Sheldon complain about there jobs. However Leonard stuck it out and listened to both! of them complain. Yet Penny got angry at him 

[chucky]

1 minute ago, Zephon75 said:

That was in season 7 and was one of the episodes I was referring to that annoyed me , as Leonard hadn't done anything wrong but Penny acted like he did. And to clarify Amy & Bernadette both went to a bar to avoid Penny & Sheldon complain about there jobs. However Leonard stuck it out and listened to both! of them complain. Yet Penny got angry at him 

That was 7, I must be getting old, my memory isn't that good anymore. Sounds to me like another opportunity Episode that you can correct for the writers.  😉

[Zephon75]

3 minutes ago, chucky said:

That was 7, I must be getting old, my memory isn't that good anymore. Sounds to me like another opportunity Episode that you can correct for the writers.  😉

I did think about doing that episode , however it's a difficult one to find a way to change and make better, unless I just have Leonard confront her.