[Spoilers] Season 12 Dark Lenny Thread

[chucky]

1 minute ago, veejay said:

 

Sure. But I would have liked to have seen it "live" on screen. Another wasted opportunity...
...I think it was a mutual confusion. They've lived too long with this strange one-of-a-kind. 😀

Yeah! There were a lot of missing opportunities. I think Penny gave Sheldon more advice than Leonard gave to Amy. Again the fear factor over Amy changing her mind. Sheldon has a whole lot of crazy to him.

[Mario D.]

5 hours ago, chucky said:

Interesting thought. They (5 remaining cast) get paid damn good money for 2 minuets of air time and to watch Jim and Mayim bust their rear ends remember their lines. I believe that's a win-win situation!

This could be an eye opener. Just read an article that says CBS has revealed that season 12 will explore Sheldon sexually harassing 6 research assistants but still keeps his job!  They say the story arc will span the entire season and will show that there might be some credibility to the accusations but he is "far too important to the university" to fire him.  The article also states that in YS it will explore Sheldon's frustration with women in his early years.  I guess another way to tie in the shows. Well, I guess all our theories about this being the Sheldon/Shamy show will come true..........how depressing

[vonmar]

2 minutes ago, Mario D. said:

This could be an eye opener. Just read an article that says CBS has revealed that season 12 will explore Sheldon sexually harassing 6 research assistants but still keeps his job!  They say the story arc will span the entire season and will show that there might be some credibility to the accusations but he is "far too important to the university" to fire him.  The article also states that in YS it will explore Sheldon's frustration with women in his early years.  I guess another way to tie in the shows. Well, I guess all our theories about this being the Sheldon/Shamy show will come true..........how depressing

That article came from "The Onion"....it's a satirical web site.  Nothing that they write is true, it's all made up.

[veejay]

12 minutes ago, vonmar said:

That article came from "The Onion"....it's a satirical web site.  Nothing that they write is true, it's all made up.

theonion.com

Thank you. I still had to laugh. 😁

[Mario D.]

26 minutes ago, vonmar said:

That article came from "The Onion"....it's a satirical web site.  Nothing that they write is true, it's all made up.

Thanks that is a relief.......guess I am not up to date with the satirical trends

[chucky]

1 hour ago, Mario D. said:

Thanks that is a relief.......guess I am not up to date with the satirical trends

Neither am I.

[Carlos]

6 hours ago, vonmar said:

That article came from "The Onion"....it's a satirical web site.  Nothing that they write is true, it's all made up.

Thank you so much. Had that been the case it would have been horrible, not believable an a total destruction of the Sheldon character. granted it did seem too far fetched to be real, but nice to know for a fact that it isn't so.

[Tensor]

Here's the real funny part.  Someone over at TBBT Wikia saw it and took it for real.  They then put it up as a summary of episode 1 for season 12.   Someone else, realizing what it was, went back and pulled the summary.  

[April]

9 hours ago, Mario D. said:

Thanks that is a relief.......guess I am not up to date with the satirical trends

The Onion is like 30 years old by now. Pretty old "trend"...

[veejay]

30 minutes ago, April said:

The Onion is like 30 years old by now. Pretty old "trend"...

True, but so-called "alternative facts" are still booming.

[chucky]

52 minutes ago, veejay said:

True, but so-called "alternative facts" are still booming.

Especially in people who don't the truth about places like "The Onion". They probably made a lot of people look foolish over the years!

[Die Zimtzicke]

22 hours ago, chucky said:

The win-win is for Kaley, Johnny, Simon, Kunal and Melissa. They get paid good money for a couple minutes and watch Jim and Mayim work extra hard!

And they do work hard. I can't blame Jim and Mayim for what's happening. I am sure they are working hard and doing the best they can with what they are being given. I can't blame Jim and Mayim personally for any of this and I can't understand why anyone would.

 

21 hours ago, Swedish Chef said:

I highly doubt that this is going to happen if you look back at previous seasons.

I totally agree.

6 hours ago, April said:

The Onion is like 30 years old by now. Pretty old "trend"...

There are still people though who don't know what it is and take everything they say seriously. Some of the political stuff has caused real problems.

[chucky]

43 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

And they do work hard. I can't blame Jim and Mayim for what's happening. I am sure they are working hard and doing the best they can with what they are being given. I can't blame Jim and Mayim personally for any of this and I can't understand why anyone would.

No one is blaming them for anything. The blame falls directly on Steve Holland and his merry band of writers,

[veejay]

21 minutes ago, Carlos said:

From this episode I loved when Sheldon is approaching Lenny sleeping with his mechanical 'claw" to try to take the ring from Penny and she realizes and hits him.

Unfortunately, such fun highlights of a once extraordinary comedy in such a nostalgic worship thread (you know what I'm going for) are no longer desired.

[chucky]

30 minutes ago, veejay said:

Unfortunately, such fun highlights of a once extraordinary comedy in such a nostalgic worship thread (you know what I'm going for) are no longer desired.

Way to go Penny. Sheldon's needed that for a long time.

[veejay]

6 minutes ago, chucky said:

Way to go Penny. Sheldon's needed that for a long time.

 

[chucky]

Just now, veejay said:

 

I'm glad I beat everyone in the mad rush to make that statement.

[Carlos]

On ‎8‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 3:33 PM, veejay said:

Unfortunately, such fun highlights of a once extraordinary comedy in such a nostalgic worship thread (you know what I'm going for) are no longer desired.

When I see scenes like that I realize that there is no point in me watching the show anymore. it has been transformed from a proper sit-com into a cheap soap opera.

[chucky]

20 minutes ago, Carlos said:

it has been transformed from a proper sit-com into a cheap soap opera.

You are sooo right. Not only is it a soap opera, it's a one-trick soap opera!   

[JohnPhD]

On 7/31/2018 at 12:10 PM, chucky said:

 Penny did start the snarky comments in 7 and escalated on 8. I believe 7 was when the writers started messing with Lenny to make Shamy the better couple. Then the stupid episode about the couples test in the magazine where shamy was the best couple an Lenny was below Raj/Cinnamon. To me, that was a complete waste of 20 some odd minutes. I mean the commercials were better than that episode. Basically all you mentioned was the writers dissing Lenny.

 

I've rewatched the second half on S7 and I still can't see any Penny snark. This was when they got engaged, after all. In fact the only thing I don'[t like about S7 is the very last scene. P & L are back in 4A after leaving S at the train station, and instead of their being able to start enjoying having the apartment to themselves, a suitable season finale, Amy is there to disrupt things with her infantile violence. Why the hell is she there at all?

I enjoyed the story in 803 with S's relationship quantification. It was made clear that it was utter nonsense and at that stage Shamy's relationship is still a joke. The rot set in in 808, altho perhaps not recognisable at the time. But 803 also brought out Penny's continuing insecurities, beautifully acted of course. At that time the writers were still giving KC something to get her teeth into.

But there's something that bugs me whenever I watch that ep: since no-one calls S out on his basic mistake re the US Constitution, what's the point of it?

[chucky]

3 minutes ago, JohnPhD said:

I've rewatched the second half on S7 and I still can't see any Penny snark.

That has been pointed out to me. I got 7 & 8 mixed up. Call it the work of an absent minded 63 year old brain. It ain't as sharp as it once was in the past.   😊

Edited August 8, 2018 by chucky
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[Die Zimtzicke]

I may be wrong, but I don't think the writers deliberately consider Shamy the better couple. They just didn't want to work with Lenny anymore. They didn't care about Lenny anymore. So they moved on to Shamy, and to a lesser extent to Howardette. I don't think they get malicious. I think they get bored with what they are doing and it's easier to move on to something else than work to change it, especially when the ratings are still better than anyone probably hoped they would be.

[veejay]

20 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I may be wrong, but I don't think the writers deliberately consider Shamy the better couple. They just didn't want to work with Lenny anymore. They didn't care about Lenny anymore. So they moved on to Shamy, and to a lesser extent to Howardette. I don't think they get malicious. I think they get bored with what they are doing and it's easier to move on to something else than work to change it, especially when the ratings are still better than anyone probably hoped they would be.

Seriously?

...or to put it more simply, this explanation is just as good as any other.

Edited August 8, 2018 by veejay

[chucky]

1 hour ago, veejay said:

Seriously?

...or to put it more simply, this explanation is just as good as any other.

Yesssss!

[Die Zimtzicke]

19 hours ago, veejay said:

Seriously?

...or to put it more simply, this explanation is just as good as any other.

If anyone trusts the writers more than I do I admire your optimism. I just can't share it.