bfm Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 4 hours ago, son-goku5 said: That's my point. English isn't my native language, I'm German. 4 hours ago, son-goku5 said: MY preference for the originals is also to avoid the butchering of the meaning of the sentence, even though sometimes it can enhance a series. A great example for this is a show that was called "Die Zwei" in Germany (freely translated "The Two" but the original title was "The Persuaders!") with Tony Curtis and Roger Moore. That show flopped in the US but achieved success in Europe and outright cult status in Germany due to its dubbing, which was written as far removed from the original as you can expect and included some slapstick expressions I still can laugh about. Highlights include gems like "Hands up - I've got an armpit fetish." or "This is the worst coffee I ever had. - That's not coffee, that's dishwater. - Oh, my bad, then it's downright delectable, if you can stomach it." or "Is he hurt? - No, he was lucky, the bullet only hit him in the head." or "The night is darker than your feet." To note, I have utmost respect for people who translate scripts into other languages. Not only do you have to keep the meaning of the dialogue you're translating, you only have to take care to keep the number of syllables as close together as possible because of the lip movements. Both Spanish and English both aren't my native languages, so I was watching it dubbed in a language that is neither the original nor my native. And for the same reason of butchering of meaning I learned to mostly ignore the subtitles. It's probably not as bad as in dubbing but the translators here make some annoying and sometimes totally unreasonable mistakes (my "favorite", from HIMYM was "No way" translated as "Yes". I swear, that happened). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie3457 Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 Sort of love this.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted September 23, 2018 Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, hokie3457 said: Sort of love this.... Sheldon looks Vulcan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted September 24, 2018 Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 10:51 AM, son-goku5 said: o note, I have utmost respect for people who translate scripts into other languages. Not only do you have to keep the meaning of the dialogue you're translating, you only have to take care to keep the number of syllables as close together as possible because of the lip movements. Hear hear ! And if it's a comedy, making it sound funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonmar Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 From Deadline Hollywood James Lipton Ends Run As ‘Inside The Actors Studio’ Host As Show Moves To Ovation TV <full article in the link> I so wanted TBBT cast to do this show, I guess it isn't going to happen now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veejay Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 12 hours ago, veejay said: It's my usual tryout to go imaginative ways. Not always easy, but liberating. 😉 @bfm A small personal addendum that seems important to me. Excuse me, please. I didn't want to confuse you. My posting was only meant as a not very serious hint to focus on the personally important goal when some things seem to get out of hand unintentionally. No offense, because I usually like your statements! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfm Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, veejay said: @bfm A small personal addendum that seems important to me. Excuse me, please. I didn't want to confuse you. My posting was only meant as a not very serious hint to focus on the personally important goal when some things seem to get out of hand unintentionally. No offense, because I usually like your statements! I just didn't and still don't really understand what you mean haha sorry, not a native language for both of us... Edited September 25, 2018 by bfm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veejay Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, bfm said: I just didn't and still don't really understand what you mean haha sorry, not a native language for both of us... That must be it, LOL. Sometimes I like to play with my virtual translator when I am looking for the right choice of words but sometimes it failed. I was just trying to respond to your apology earlier about your disappointment with the show. I feel your frustration about the writing is justified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 4 hours ago, veejay said: I feel your frustration about the writing is justified. Ditto! But I have been complaining about the writing for a while now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Zimtzicke Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Laurie might be good in this play. https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/laurie-metcalf-john-lithgow-play-bill-hillary-clinton-58286107?cid=social_fb_tw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 It's the Thanks Giving long weekend in Canada. My local cable yet again has a Star Wars marathon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 18 hours ago, djsurrey said: It's the Thanks Giving long weekend in Canada. My local cable yet again has a Star Wars marathon. It seems as though the cable people just look for ways to have Star Wars/ Harry Potter Marathons. Don't get me wrong, I do love Star Wars and Harry Potter! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfm Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, chucky said: It seems as though the cable people just look for ways to have Star Wars/ Harry Potter Marathons. Don't get me wrong, I do love Star Wars and Harry Potter! I'm just waiting for Crazy Ex Girlfriend (3 days!!!) and a new The Good Place. And binging New Girl (I'm always watching shows so very late LOL). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, bfm said: I'm just waiting for Crazy Ex Girlfriend (3 days!!!) and a new The Good Place. And binging New Girl (I'm always watching shows so very late LOL). Sounds like you enjoy them. I haven't heard of them. They sound good. On 9/23/2018 at 10:11 AM, hokie3457 said: Sort of love this.... Yeah, love Penny giving Leonard a hug. PDA, PDA, PDA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 7 hours ago, chucky said: It seems as though the cable people just look for ways to have Star Wars/ Harry Potter Marathons. Don't get me wrong, I do love Star Wars and Harry Potter! I have a hard time watching early Harry Potter because Emma Watson goes from a tot to hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Zimtzicke Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Chrismo said: I have a hard time watching early Harry Potter because Emma Watson goes from a tot to hot. I was subbing in a school last Friday and the kids got to watch a movie. It was her version of Beauty and The Beast. She definitely grew up better looking, unlike the other two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said: I was subbing in a school last Friday and the kids got to watch a movie. It was her version of Beauty and The Beast. She definitely grew up better looking, unlike the other two. Was it a literature module they were studying ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Zimtzicke Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 9 hours ago, joyceraye said: Was it a literature module they were studying ? No, it was an incentive. The teacher knew she was going to be out to go to a training and if everyone made a certain standard of behavior they would get a movie at the end of the day while she was gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KripkeRules Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 20 hours ago, bfm said: I'm just waiting for Crazy Ex Girlfriend (3 days!!!) and a new The Good Place. And binging New Girl (I'm always watching shows so very late LOL). The Good Place is very good. I just noticed the other day that it's the same Michael Schur who created these three shows that I like so much - Parks and Recreation, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Good Place, LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said: No, it was an incentive. The teacher knew she was going to be out to go to a training and if everyone made a certain standard of behavior they would get a movie at the end of the day while she was gone. Wow ! School has changed since I was a pupil ! I remember being shown Great Expectations circa 1960 but we were studying Dickens' novels at the time. We got Huckleberry Finn about 1962 when we were doing Mark Twain. Otherwise we got documentaries. The only sense of being treated came from not having the teacher droning on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Zimtzicke Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, joyceraye said: Wow ! School has changed since I was a pupil ! I remember being shown Great Expectations circa 1960 but we were studying Dickens' novels at the time. We got Huckleberry Finn about 1962 when we were doing Mark Twain. Otherwise we got documentaries. The only sense of being treated came from not having the teacher droning on. Well, they were students with special needs and do not follow the general education curriculum exactly anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said: Well, they were students with special needs and do not follow the general education curriculum exactly anyway. Oh I see. Yes, providing rewards for good behaviour is part of what those with special needs need to be taught. I hope it wasn't too taxing a day for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
son-goku5 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 10 hours ago, joyceraye said: We got Huckleberry Finn about 1962 when we were doing Mark Twain. Just as a sidenote to this, have you heard that they changed Huckleberry Finn? They took out the word "nigger" and replaced it with "slave", as if that was an upgrade... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyceraye Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, son-goku5 said: Just as a sidenote to this, have you heard that they changed Huckleberry Finn? They took out the word "nigger" and replaced it with "slave", as if that was an upgrade... No, I I hadn't heard that. I wouldn't have understood the change anyway as a child. I was in my twenties before I discovered that some Americans saw 'nigger' as a derogatory word. it's interesting to know that American printers think it is so bad they consider it worthwhile changing words in one of their classic novels. What surprises me at this distance is that our English literature teacher gave us American books to read. We loved Tom Sawyer and Huck as characters. We also did Uncle Tom's Cabin with Little Eva and Topsy as memorable characters. Everything else we did was English or Scottish and seemed rather grim to teenagers unless one liked that sort of thing. Dickens, Orwell, Buchan, Du Maurier which I suppose adults thought were interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
son-goku5 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 6 hours ago, joyceraye said: No, I I hadn't heard that. I wouldn't have understood the change anyway as a child. I was in my twenties before I discovered that some Americans saw 'nigger' as a derogatory word. it's interesting to know that American printers think it is so bad they consider it worthwhile changing words in one of their classic novels. What surprises me at this distance is that our English literature teacher gave us American books to read. We loved Tom Sawyer and Huck as characters. We also did Uncle Tom's Cabin with Little Eva and Topsy as memorable characters. Everything else we did was English or Scottish and seemed rather grim to teenagers unless one liked that sort of thing. Dickens, Orwell, Buchan, Du Maurier which I suppose adults thought were interesting. I read Uncle Tom's Cabin and Huck Finn as a child. I could never make the connction to slavery because at that point, I hadn't learned about it yet in school. But still, as derogatory as the word nigger is, replacing it with slave makes it worse. AS D.L. Hughley so aptly put it: "If you call me nigger, I can go home. If you call me slave, I have to go with you." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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