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5 hours ago, shell said:

It could have been bad but it obviously wasn't because believe me you don't smile if its awful

Even when it's bad, sex, like pizza, is still pretty good. ¬†ūüėč

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2 minutes ago, Tensor said:

Even when it's bad, sex, like pizza, is still pretty good. ¬†ūüėč

Quality--not quanity

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10 minutes ago, shell said:

Quality--not quanity

Not arguing there, (except to say quality AND quantity).  

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3 minutes ago, shell said:

Well, gotta say, I ain't no ho so don't agree

So, people who like a lot of sex, are a ho?

27 minutes ago, shell said:

I'm fine with other people liking other couples. As a Shamy fan I do support them though I see awful posts written about them even now, all the time. I say one thing about Lenny, about how I feel about their relationship  and am ripped apart 

How are giving counter examples and refutations to your examples ripping you apart?  

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2 minutes ago, Tensor said:

So, people who like a lot of sex, are a ho?

Are they married 

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Are they married 

 If they are unattached, consenting adults, what's marriage have to do with it?

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1 minute ago, Tensor said:

 If they are unattached, consenting adults, what's marriage have to do with it?

A lot to me

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Well that's fine, but I'm not quite sure that someone else's sex life, is any business it is of yours, to the point that you call them a paid sex worker.  

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7 hours ago, hokie3457 said:

I’m of the mind that they ALL are living happily ever after!

Yes, I as well think that's exactly what they do . :girlsmile:

 

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8 hours ago, Tensor said:

How are giving counter examples and refutations to your examples ripping you apart?  

Very good question

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7 hours ago, Tensor said:

 If they are unattached, consenting adults, what's marriage have to do with it?

Context ! ie  intent, emotion, family, moral or religious viewpoints, level of commitment, values, likely response to failed contraception etc

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8 hours ago, Tensor said:

Well that's fine, but I'm not quite sure that someone else's sex life, is any business it is of yours, to the point that you call them a paid sex worker.  

Isn't 'ho' just an American shortening of 'whore' ? In my version of the English language a whore is not necessarily paid, it's just any woman like Penny used to be and never denied it,  plus those women Leonard brought home, including Priya. The word for a man like that - Howard, Raj, and Leonard, for example, is rake, but it's most unfairly not used as often as it should be.  Double standards. The word for someone who's paid is  prostitute, which Penny wasn't, really, although she joked about free drinks and meals and so on. She was Kirk's mistress for six years but we don't know much about her life at that time.

Six out of the seven of them are all married and faithful now, so their pasts whatever they were are behind them. Other people's sex lives are nobody else's business, true, unless we're seeing them in a sitcom. I don't have friends like that in real life - so far as I know. :)

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The terms ho, whore and slut really, really bother me. The term rake when I’ve heard it does not contain as rash a connotation as these terms used for women. Why is it that a woman who enjoys physical relations gets tagged with these very ugly names? We are well into the 21st century, however enlightenment is lagging in many areas....


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9 hours ago, Tensor said:

 If they are unattached, consenting adults, what's marriage have to do with it?

I don't care what others do, but personally it's not for me

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2 hours ago, hokie3457 said:

The terms ho, whore and slut really, really bother me. The term rake when I’ve heard it does not contain as rash a connotation as these terms used for women. Why is it that a woman who enjoys physical relations gets tagged with these very ugly names? We are well into the 21st century, however enlightenment is lagging in many areas....


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Like I've said, to me marriage is important I don't care what others do. 

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Like I've said, to me marriage is important I don't care what others do. 

That is fine and is perfectly acceptable, as is any preference or opinion. I just don’t like the connotations that certain labels attach.


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3 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Isn't 'ho' just an American shortening of 'whore' ? In my version of the English language a whore is not necessarily paid, it's just any woman like Penny used to be and never denied it,  plus those women Leonard brought home, including Priya. The word for a man like that - Howard, Raj, and Leonard, for example, is rake, but it's most unfairly not used as often as it should be.  Double standards. The word for someone who's paid is  prostitute, which Penny wasn't, really, although she joked about free drinks and meals and so on. She was Kirk's mistress for six years but we don't know much about her life at that time.

Six out of the seven of them are all married and faithful now, so their pasts whatever they were are behind them. Other people's sex lives are nobody else's business, true, unless we're seeing them in a sitcom. I don't have friends like that in real life - so far as I know. :)

I'm going with hokie on this. Enjoying sex with multiple partners does not make one a whore, or ho (whichever term you want to use.) And there is definitely a double standard in how society still views a woman who does this, as compared to a man. And Penny wasn't Kurt's (not Kirk's) mistress, unless you are using the term in a non-standard way. She was his girlfriend and they lived together. To our knowledge, she didn't cheat on him, either.

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15 minutes ago, gsxdoug said:

I'm going with hokie on this. Enjoying sex with multiple partners does not make one a whore, or ho (whichever term you want to use.) And there is definitely a double standard in how society still views a woman who does this, as compared to a man. And Penny wasn't Kurt's (not Kirk's) mistress, unless you are using the term in a non-standard way. She was his girlfriend and they lived together. To our knowledge, she didn't cheat on him, either.

To each his own. If someone wants to enjoy sex with multiple partners, go at it, its their own business. I'm just referring to how I feel about it personally--I don't feel right doing that. I like commitment 

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4 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Isn't 'ho' just an American shortening of 'whore' ? In my version of the English language a whore is not necessarily paid, it's just any woman like Penny used to be and never denied it,  plus those women Leonard brought home, including Priya. The word for a man like that - Howard, Raj, and Leonard, for example, is rake, but it's most unfairly not used as often as it should be.  Double standards. The word for someone who's paid is  prostitute, which Penny wasn't, really, although she joked about free drinks and meals and so on. She was Kirk's mistress for six years but we don't know much about her life at that time.

Six out of the seven of them are all married and faithful now, so their pasts whatever they were are behind them. Other people's sex lives are nobody else's business, true, unless we're seeing them in a sitcom. I don't have friends like that in real life - so far as I know. :)

The proper definition of Whore, is a prostitute.   Informally, and derogatorily, it can be used to mean someone who has a lot of, supposedly, improper sex (out of wedlock, as or with an adulterer).

4 hours ago, joyceraye said:

Context ! ie  intent, emotion, family, moral or religious viewpoints, level of commitment, values, likely response to failed contraception etc

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything, if those involved in the act are consenting.   The act of consenting indicates that the person at least thought of these (even if they didn't.).  

My complaint about the whole things wasn't that this person wanted commitment, or that person did, or this other person objected because of religion.  I was questioning  applying a derogatory term (ho), to people who didn't follow what another person deemed moral.  

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1 hour ago, gsxdoug said:

didn't Amy and Sheldon have sex before they were married? Why aren't you calling her(them) out for that?

Because I don't care what anyone  else does

I believe in only one partner at a time for me!-alone. I wouldn't call anyone else a ho but me, myself. I might feel wrong for it but thats only me

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35 minutes ago, gsxdoug said:

I'm going with hokie on this. Enjoying sex with multiple partners does not make one a whore, or ho (whichever term you want to use.) And there is definitely a double standard in how society still views a woman who does this, as compared to a man. And Penny wasn't Kurt's (not Kirk's) mistress, unless you are using the term in a non-standard way. She was his girlfriend and they lived together. To our knowledge, she didn't cheat on him, either.

I can agree with you to an extent.  Having multiple sex partners for two consenting adults is not a problem for me.  But, what gets me is the way they emphasized Penny's promiscousness and that she would jump into bed with someone she hardly knows after just one date.  To me you need to have some kind of relationship with your partner before engaging in sex. I think this way both partners would be much more comfortable in the act.  However, I know in this day and age some women and men consider a one-night stand as comfortable.  Just to highlight my point the scene where Penny tells the girls and Raj on playing hooky from school and being in a motel with a 34 yr old guy named Luther when she was supposedly a teenage minor.  Just disgraceful dialogue.

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19 minutes ago, shell said:

Because I don't care what anyone  else does

I believe in only one partner at a time for me!-alone. I wouldn't call anyone else a ho but me, myself. I might feel wrong for it but thats only me

But, but but, you implied others are this, if they have a lot of sex.  Your reply after I added Quantity to Quality:

13 hours ago, Tensor said:

Not arguing there, (except to say quality AND quantity).  

13 hours ago, shell said:

Well, gotta say, I ain't no ho so don't agree

 

  You say you wouldn't call anyone else a ho here, but in an earlier post, you labeled someone who had a lot of sex with that derogatory term.  

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28 minutes ago, Tensor said:

But, but but, you implied others are this, if they have a lot of sex.  Your reply after I added Quantity to Quality:

  You say you wouldn't call anyone else a ho here, but in an earlier post, you labeled someone who had a lot of sex with that derogatory term.  

Don't agree for Me

Myself

Just I

Say what you want I don't care how anyone else lives their life

 

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Just now, shell said:

Don't agree for Me

Myself

Just I

Say what you want I don't care how anyone else lives their life

 

But, that's just it,  I didn't say it, those are your words, implying that those who have a lot of sex, are ho's.  Are you denying you typed that message?   

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Just now, Tensor said:

But, that's just it,  I didn't say it, those are your words, implying that those who have a lot of sex, are ho's.  Are you denying you typed that message?   

I;m saying that goes for me

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