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Leonard is my favorite on TBBT, but a Young Leonard show would be a tragedy. He had a terrible childhood, he was mentally abused by his mother, his father was never around and his brothers and peers bullied him. They changed some things to make Sheldon's childhood a family comedy, but I don't think Leonard's is "redeemable".

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1 hour ago, bfm said:

Leonard is my favorite on TBBT, but a Young Leonard show would be a tragedy. He had a terrible childhood, he was mentally abused by his mother, his father was never around and his brothers and peers bullied him. They changed some things to make Sheldon's childhood a family comedy, but I don't think Leonard's is "redeemable".

As Mrs. Hofstradter tells about his childhood I mean; his bedwetting, competition with his other siblings and  other events in the past may make a funny and comedy story. 

I’d like you to redeem your proposal in this context.

regards

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3 hours ago, Gillani said:

As Mrs. Hofstradter tells about his childhood I mean; his bedwetting, competition with his other siblings and  other events in the past may make a funny and comedy story. 

I’d like you to redeem your proposal in this context.

regards

With the way he has been treated, these are relatively minor consequnces compared to what could have been. I see these as the effects of abuse on a poor child, so I don't find it funny. What do you mean by redeem my poposal? This is my opinion and what you wrote doesn't change it. It's okay to disagree.

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I see the appeal. Theirs alot their to explore, character wise. But alot of Bevs abuse of Leonard is funny. Because it works from a comedy sense. And the fact Leonards an adult. But abuse when he was a child is not that particularly funny. Not sure I Want too see Leonards terrible childhood. Changed enough cannon with YS. Would I watch a Young Leonard pilot? Yeah I would be intrigued. But not pro it.

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First, it speaks poorly to 'Young Sheldon's' success , that another spinoff is discussed on a forum about 'Young Sheldon'. It's like making vegan chicken and rice. Perhaps in this particular time line/universe 'Old Sheldon' ceases to exist due to 'Young Sheldon's' cancellation. I would like to see either a prequel, or sequel, of all the characters. Situation and character chaos breeds the best humor. If situations and characters are all 'homeostatic' , then comedy nuggets are harder to excavate. Child abuse is never funny. Giving Jimmy Speckerman his own show would be 'improbable'. Perhaps, the episodes can show how Leonard survived, and flourished. Perhaps Leonard got back a Jimmy Speckerman in ways yet revealed, such as:  Sheldon's Panty Pinata, or foamy vengeance against Kripki. Although,  testicular stapling should be left to the professionals, such as Steve O.

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On 10/30/2018 at 5:20 AM, Gillani said:

I move to suggest that as Young Sheldon is a great idea to portray the past of Sheldon Cooper and it touches the horizons; why not Young LeoNERD should be started being persecuted by his mom's psychological practice.

WHAT? Are you being serious or just trying to be funny? A show like the one you suggest is definitely not funny, IMHO!

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4 hours ago, chucky said:

WHAT? Are you being serious or just trying to be funny? A show like the one you suggest is definitely not funny, IMHO!

Agreed now I realised that young Leonard is a bad idea.

I don’t try to be funny but I thought as young sheldon became a hit searial likewise YL could also be. But I didn’t keep  the abuse aspect in mind. 

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It would depend very much on the premise. What Leonard remembers does not make for comedy. As it is, Young Sheldon doesn't contain much to laugh at. Not for me, anyway.  It contains much that contradicts - or throws a different light on - what Sheldon as an adult chooses to remember, or at least to relate. That's why I watch it. Could they make a series about Leonard's childhood that leaves out the remembered abuse ? I doubt it. There's no shining a different light on no birthdays, only dissertations for Santa and no hugs from Mummy. They would have to be very creative indeed to overcome that.  

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13 hours ago, joyceraye said:

It would depend very much on the premise. What Leonard remembers does not make for comedy. As it is, Young Sheldon doesn't contain much to laugh at. Not for me, anyway.  It contains much that contradicts - or throws a different light on - what Sheldon as an adult chooses to remember, or at least to relate. That's why I watch it. Could they make a series about Leonard's childhood that leaves out the remembered abuse ? I doubt it. There's no shining a different light on no birthdays, only dissertations for Santa and no hugs from Mummy. They would have to be very creative indeed to overcome that.  

True, not to mention his only school memories are of being bullied!

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On 10/30/2018 at 5:20 AM, Gillani said:

Young LeoNERD should be started being persecuted by his mom's psychological practice.

I've given this tons of thought since the season finale and I don't think there's a lot of ways to make that comedic either. It would help if we'd been introduced to his siblings,  but we weren't. With TBBT we already knew a lot about Missy.

 

On 2/14/2019 at 8:32 AM, chucky said:

True, not to mention his only school memories are of being bullied!

Well, to a certain extent the same could be said of Sheldon's school memories. YS has led to more than one argument about how canon changed. But since Molaro has said the odds of seeing any TBBT kids again on YS is slim to none, so I don't think he's interested in giving any of them their own shows. I could be wrong but I don't think so. I think if he were going to do it, he'd find a way to have at least one of them appear in passing or hidden in the background.

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19 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I've given this tons of thought since the season finale and I don't think there's a lot of ways to make that comedic either. It would help if we'd been introduced to his siblings,  but we weren't. With TBBT we already knew a lot about Missy.

 

Well, to a certain extent the same could be said of Sheldon's school memories. YS has led to more than one argument about how canon changed. But since Molaro has said the odds of seeing any TBBT kids again on YS is slim to none, so I don't think he's interested in giving any of them their own shows. I could be wrong but I don't think so. I think if he were going to do it, he'd find a way to have at least one of them appear in passing or hidden in the background.

Yeah, I believe that YS is a one and done trial. Although, a "Young Penny" would be interesting.

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4 hours ago, chucky said:

Yeah, I believe that YS is a one and done trial. Although, a "Young Penny" would be interesting.

While a YP show would certainly fit in with most content currently aired, the question is, "Do TBBT viewers want to see Penny depicted as an academically under achieving, alcohol indulging, sexually promiscuous, teenage bully?" That is what TBBT established as Penny's backstory.

The fact is, the writers and producers of YS have taken great liberties in re-shaping the YS childhood into palatable television material. Spinning off any more Y-TBBT child shows would require similar efforts. 

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2 hours ago, HeWolf said:

While a YP show would certainly fit in with most content currently aired, the question is, "Do TBBT viewers want to see Penny depicted as an academically under achieving, alcohol indulging, sexually promiscuous, teenage bully?" That is what TBBT established as Penny's backstory.

The fact is, the writers and producers of YS have taken great liberties in re-shaping the YS childhood into palatable television material. Spinning off any more Y-TBBT child shows would require similar efforts. 

Penny's view of her youth - at least as she' related it -  might be  of 'an academically under achieving, alcohol indulging, sexually promiscuous, teenage bully' but perhaps when we saw what really happened we could discover it was only partially true. 

YS corroborates or gives a different perspective on Sheldon's  tales of his childhood. They're not necessarily funny. With the rest of the family, the neighbours, the high school staff and the church, there's a lot of  background to see. It can be done. If there was going to be a childhood review of another character from TBBT, my vote would be for Penny

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1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

If there was going to be a childhood review of another character from TBBT, my vote would be for Penny

I wouldn't watch that. Penny was my least favorite character for one thing and Penny's sleeping around, bullying people and tying nerdy girls up and abandoning them would not be funny. And I don't see how you could say it's possible it's  partially true when  seemed to be totally true based on the time she tried to reach out to some of those girls she bullied. In the episode "Bully of the Past". TBBT pretty much corroborated it. 

And when she decided to do something charitable to atone by donating clothing to the needy when her former classmates all rejected her overtures, the clothes in the donation box happened to be adorable and in Penny’s size so instead of donating her own stuff, Penny wound up stealing from the donation box instead. So she never did learn her lesson.

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7 hours ago, HeWolf said:

The fact is, the writers and producers of YS have taken great liberties in re-shaping the YS childhood into palatable television material. Spinning off any more Y-TBBT child shows would require similar efforts. 

Sooo true!

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And when she decided to do something charitable to atone by donating clothing to the needy when her former classmates all rejected her overtures, the clothes in the donation box happened to be adorable and in Penny’s size so instead of donating her own stuff, Penny wound up stealing from the donation box instead. So she never did learn her lesson.

Actually, at the end,( The Speckerman Recurrence) she got Amy and Bernadette to put the clothes back.  Bernadette was the one who returned to take the clothes. 
 

Penny: Wait, wait, wait, guys, just hang on.

Amy: What is it, the fuzz?

Penny: Look at us. What are we doing?

Amy: I was gleefully following you to a life of crime, looking forward to the day we might be cell mates. I don’t know about Bernadette.

Penny: You know, this is wrong. Let’s put everything back. Here.

Bernadette (taking boots and running): It’s okay, I serve soup to poor people!

 

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10 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

I wouldn't watch that. Penny was my least favorite character for one thing and Penny's sleeping around, bullying people and tying nerdy girls up and abandoning them would not be funny. And I don't see how you could say it's possible it's  partially true when  seemed to be totally true based on the time she tried to reach out to some of those girls she bullied. In the episode "Bully of the Past". TBBT pretty much corroborated it. 

And when she decided to do something charitable to atone by donating clothing to the needy when her former classmates all rejected her overtures, the clothes in the donation box happened to be adorable and in Penny’s size so instead of donating her own stuff, Penny wound up stealing from the donation box instead. So she never did learn her lesson.

I don't suppose a show about a young Penny would be funny. Young Sheldon isn't exactly a laugh a minute. Sheldon himself isn't all that lovable : even his teachers are so glad when he's not in class they do nothing to investigate where he is, apart from his PE teacher who looks in the places where he's usually stuffed and gives up. For me, if there ever was such a thing as Young Penny, the interest would be in seeing family life on an American farm and the other country children in the school they're bussed to.

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On 10/7/2019 at 10:16 PM, Tensor said:

 

Actually, at the end,( The Speckerman Recurrence) she got Amy and Bernadette to put the clothes back.  Bernadette was the one who returned to take the clothes. 
 

Penny: Wait, wait, wait, guys, just hang on.

Amy: What is it, the fuzz?

Penny: Look at us. What are we doing?

Amy: I was gleefully following you to a life of crime, looking forward to the day we might be cell mates. I don’t know about Bernadette.

Penny: You know, this is wrong. Let’s put everything back. Here.

Bernadette (taking boots and running): It’s okay, I serve soup to poor people!

 

So very true.  :hi:

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