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9 minutes ago, vonmar said:

The premise is the basis for the show, what Chuck and Bill pitched.  They didn't pitch P/L they pitched the nerds and the pretty worldly girl.

Who cares? I guess you do. As I said, maybe it didn't start out that way, but that's how it ended. You can argue all you want, but that's the simple truth. I'm done with this topic!

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4 minutes ago, vonmar said:

The premise is the basis for the show, what Chuck and Bill pitched.  They didn't pitch P/L they pitched the nerds and the pretty worldly girl.

I don’t know how many times it has been stated on the forum but Johnny said early on that Lorre offered him the character ‘Sheldon’ but he turned it down because he wanted the character ‘Leonard’, he wanted tha character since it was the character with romantic story in the show.  So from the beginning there was going to be a romantic relationship with the main female character with the character ‘Leonard’ and if Johnny knew it from the beginning I think you can logically assume Lorre was pitching it.

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10 minutes ago, vonmar said:

The premise is the basis for the show, what Chuck and Bill pitched.  They didn't pitch P/L they pitched the nerds and the pretty worldly girl.

The premise of the show had nothing to do with Amy or YS.

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There is actually no evidence that they didn’t pitch the female lead and Leonard and only pitched the nerds and the pretty girl.

1 minute ago, Chrismo said:

The premise of the show had nothing to do with Amy or YS.

That is very true, the other romances were probably not even thought about originally.

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4 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

The premise of the show had nothing to do with Amy or YS.

They only write a few  weeks out.  How could they have know that Amy, Bernadette or YS would happen down the road.

Premise is the concept that launches everything else into being.  The show evolved.

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3 minutes ago, vonmar said:

They only write a few  weeks out.  How could they have know that Amy, Bernadette or YS would happen down the road.

Premise is the concept that launches everything else into being.  The show evolved.

I was being sarcastic

 

13 minutes ago, SRAM said:

I don’t know how many times it has been stated on the forum but Johnny said early on that Lorre offered him the character ‘Sheldon’ but he turned it down because he wanted the character ‘Leonard’, he wanted tha character since it was the character with romantic story in the show.  So from the beginning there was going to be a romantic relationship with the main female character with the character ‘Leonard’ and if Johnny knew it from the beginning I think you can logically assume Lorre was pitching it.

Agreed.  If that wasn’t the case Leonard wouldn’t have had any interest in Penny  in the pilot.

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26 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

The premise of the show had nothing to do with Amy or YS.

I actually think Amy and Bernadette were a knee jerk reaction to the sudden realization that they had a hit show on their hands and that it was probably going to go on for several more seasons.

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9 minutes ago, SRAM said:

I actually think Amy and Bernadette were a knee jerk reaction to the sudden realization that they had a hit show on their hands and that it was probably going to go on for several more seasons.

Not necessarily this episode but there is a bit of a knee jerk reaction of adding Anu and Stunise on a more regular basis. Just like the writers then the writers have nothing else. That’s another reason for YS on.It kills time on TBBT while getting promoted

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8 minutes ago, Chrismo said:

That’s another reason for YS on.It kills time on TBBT while getting promoted

So damn true!

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1 hour ago, SRAM said:

I actually think Amy and Bernadette were a knee jerk reaction to the sudden realization that they had a hit show on their hands and that it was probably going to go on for several more seasons.

As I recall it there was no certainty the show would continue in season four. I could be wrong.

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Looking back, all I can say is…

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…I’m just glad this wasn't the christmas tree. :shy:

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5 hours ago, djsurrey said:

As I recall it there was no certainty the show would continue in season four. I could be wrong.

I vaguely remember something about that, but I do know personally I was considering ditching it on my Netflix binge around Season 3 when it felt very stale and the characters weren't really growing that much.  The introduction of Bernadette and especially Amy really gave the show the shot in the arm it needed IMO.

Howard and Sheldon got a significant other in their lives and Penny got a huge boost to her character having 'girl friends' that allowed more types of story to be told and fresh new comedy opportunities.

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1 hour ago, Jonny said:

Howard and Sheldon got a significant other in their lives and Penny got a huge boost to her character having 'girl friends' that allowed more types of story to be told and fresh new comedy opportunities.

True

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7 hours ago, djsurrey said:

As I recall it there was no certainty the show would continue in season four. I could be wrong.

I think this season is the first renewal/uncertainty/end of contract one in which we've known this soon whether or not it's the last.

Johnny said :

"I do know personally I was considering ditching it on my Netflix binge around Season 3 when it felt very stale and the characters weren't really growing that much.  The introduction of Bernadette and especially Amy really gave the show the shot in the arm it needed IMO.

Howard and Sheldon got a significant other in their lives and Penny got a huge boost to her character having 'girl friends' that allowed more types of story to be told and fresh new comedy opportunities."

By season three - until the very last episode - I was only watching TBBT because I was downloading or recording it for a goddaughter who was away at Cambridge doing her master's. That got me to watch S04E01.  It was when Amy gatecrashed girls' night that I wanted to see more.

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8 hours ago, SRAM said:

I don’t know how many times it has been stated on the forum but Johnny said early on that Lorre offered him the character ‘Sheldon’ but he turned it down because he wanted the character ‘Leonard’, he wanted tha character since it was the character with romantic story in the show.  So from the beginning there was going to be a romantic relationship with the main female character with the character ‘Leonard’ and if Johnny knew it from the beginning I think you can logically assume Lorre was pitching it.

And the rest, as they say, is history!

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13 hours ago, The Lash said:

The premise of the show was Leonard's efforts to get Penny

I never thought that and I never watched for that. For me the show was about three nerdy guys who were more than they seemed and how they reacted to the world around them. I saw and watched for what the show was originally pitched as. I didn't even like Penny at all when the show started.

 

10 hours ago, joyceraye said:

When I watch those early episodes I'm surprised to see how much Sheldon has always dominated. At the time I thought it was an ensemble show but it centred on Sheldon far more than I realised. It's his universe that's expanded more than anyone's.

That is EXACTLY what got me hooked watching when the show started. Sheldon was the only one who was different from anything I had seen in a sitcom before.

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32 minutes ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

That is EXACTLY what got me hooked watching when the show started. Sheldon was the only one who was different from anything I had seen in a sitcom before.

I guess you like obnoxious, insensitive jerks. Just funning! 😊

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For me sheldon is the reason I stopped watching

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19 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

For me sheldon is the reason I stopped watching

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Well, he's the thing that makes it hard for me to watch, along with the writers. I guess they go hand in hand together!

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43 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

For me sheldon is the reason I stopped watching

Yeah, I understand that. For a longer time now his character has also been a pain in my ass. But after knowing the end is near, I will, also because of Penny ☺️, still watch the last episodes.

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2 minutes ago, veejay said:

Yeah, I understand that. For a longer time now his character has also been a pain in my ass. But after knowing the end is near, I will, also because of Penny ☺️, still watch the last episodes.

Well, she does make it easier to watch!

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2 hours ago, chucky said:

I guess you like obnoxious, insensitive jerks. Just funning! 😊

There are many people who don't feel that way

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10 minutes ago, bfm said:

There are many people who don't feel that way

Oh well! To each their own!

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14 hours ago, SRAM said:

I don’t know how many times it has been stated on the forum but Johnny said early on that Lorre offered him the character ‘Sheldon’ but he turned it down because he wanted the character ‘Leonard’, he wanted tha character since it was the character with romantic story in the show.  So from the beginning there was going to be a romantic relationship with the main female character with the character ‘Leonard’ and if Johnny knew it from the beginning I think you can logically assume Lorre was pitching it.

And additionally, Kaley always said in interviews that her dream from the pilot episode was that Penny and Leonard would eventually marry.

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1 hour ago, Mario D. said:

And additionally, Kaley always said in interviews that her dream from the pilot episode was that Penny and Leonard would eventually marry.

So true

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