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  1. 1. I would like Shamy to...

    • develop into a romantic relationship
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    • stay friends
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    • I hate Shamy, I want Amy out of the show
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I love Amy, she does make it funnier, I think people just want Sheldon to them self that's why they don't want Amy on the show. Or they think Sheldon should not be human and develop new experiences and should sit in a box . If you was a true Sheldon fan you would love him no matter what he takes on and how he develops. He will always be the same, he will just develop slight more feelings.

Them too together make the show funnier and Penny is rubbing off on them both changing them slightly which is good. :) I don't want them to jump into bed or anything like that, just develop more with their feelings and become closer in their own weird way! :D

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I think she's going to succeed.

Even Jim thinks so. I noticed that he's long stopped trying to beat around the bush and now says "when" instead of "if" when asked whether or not Sheldon will have sex. I wonder what kind of direction / notes he's getting lately that he's made such a 180. However, sex is a very long way away for these two.

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Amy should be written out of the show.

1) We don't need another Sheldon. The audience loves the Sheldon we have. It was cute for one, maybe two episodes to have a female Sheldon clone, but now it's just an excuse to fill up air time.

2) She is unlikable. What makes Sheldon work is that beneath his super genius craziness he's very child-like which makes great comedy because of ironies of a highly intellectual person with the emotional development of a little kid. Amy has the super genius crazy qualities, but she lacks the gooshy inside.

3) She lacks the necessary ironic component for comedy. Other Sheldon-like characters, like Leonard's mother, have worked because of the ironies of a mother---a traditionally compassionate, loving figure---treating her child like a science experiment. But Amy doesn't have the opportunity to have such an ironic relationship with Sheldon since there's no expectation for her to behave lovingly toward him. She has the extreme personality, but we're missing a foil.

4) Building off of my previous points about the necessity of irony in comedy, if Sheldon were to have a girlfriend, it would be funniest if she were dissimilar to Sheldon. She would have to be smart so that Sheldon couldn't patronize her, but really motherly toward Sheldon to bring out that funny aspect of his personality. Although I have often thought about the much talked about possible Penny/Sheldon pairing, it would be too out-of-character for the writers to actually do. And in any case, she's too easy for Sheldon to patronize, and thus if they were together they would either be fighting all the time or one of them would be dominating the relationship too much. But maybe at some point Sheldon will meet the perfect opposite. Amy is an example of likes repelling the comedic value out of a scene.

This.

Unfortunately, I'm sure Amy will stay.

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Unfortunately, I'm sure Amy will stay.

Given the fantastic critical and ratings success during the advent of the Shamy, is there any doubt? :icon_wink:

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Given the fantastic critical and ratings success during the advent of the Shamy, is there any doubt? :icon_wink:

Preach the choir, sister.

After that Emmy nom, do you think TBTP will get her out? What a ridiculous thought.

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Agreed.

I liked season 5 better. It had the best of this couple. I do loooove season 4 but it's more of a setpoint of the relationship.

But who am I to talk since most of those here didn't want them to go further anyway.

Thanks. You? One truly shipper as I am

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I love Amy, she does make it funnier, I think people just want Sheldon to them self that's why they don't want Amy on the show. Or they think Sheldon should not be human and develop new experiences and should sit in a box . If you was a true Sheldon fan you would love him no matter what he takes on and how he develops. He will always be the same, he will just develop slight more feelings.

Them too together make the show funnier and Penny is rubbing off on them both changing them slightly which is good. :) I don't want them to jump into bed or anything like that, just develop more with their feelings and become closer in their own weird way! :D

Totally agreed! Somewhere I read, people have jealous instead to wish them happyness :icon_rolleyes: - I don't understand it. I don't want them to jump into bed too, NOW, but I´d love to watch, how they approach it - funny, weird and I do know they both are "robotic", but also tenderly. I vote for this with all my heart! I do value friendship very much, but in my opinion, they have more. And if they made Amy wanting Sheldon and at the end they don't put them together, then I don't understand nothing.

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I don't know that Amy will succeed in getting Sheldon to "go all the way" anytime soon, but I'm loving the ways she's finding to get past his defenses. It reminds me a little of Nurse Chapel and Mr. Spock on Star Trek. Plomeek soup may not be the way to a Vulcan's heart, but you can't blame the girl for trying. :icon_lol:

What I find interesting is that Sheldon calls her a vixen on more than one occasion and even though he protests, he's still drawn to her and to preserving their relationship. And I love that Amy loves him in spite of what an ornery little butt he can be. :icon_wink:

I really loved her little "seduction dinner" and that last scene where they were "playing doctor--Star Trek style"!! Though Sheldon says he's in hell, he doesn't want her to stop. I think they both got a little of what they wanted--I'm sure Amy would love to "play doctor" the way most people think of that term, and Sheldon loves pretty much all things Star Trek, so this seemed like a great compromise. :icon_biggrin:

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Amy is certainly going to succeed, I don't think there is any going back now.

Oh, I think she'll succeed eventually. I just don't know that it'll be this season. Though I'm eager to see how Sheldon would react to such an opportunity, I don't know if it's right for the character arc for it to happen so soon, since they've barely gotten to handholding and a kiss or two (initiated by her.)

I was also wondering the other day if he would have any qualms about sex outside of marriage. I only ask because although he says he doesn't follow his mother's beliefs, he still tends to abide by how he was raised--doesn't like to cuss, etc.

I was thinking back to when his mother first learned about Sheldon and Amy and asked Leonard if they'd sinned. And then Penny pointing out to Sheldon that his mother probably wouldn't want a test-tube grandchild born out of wedlock.

Since he did seem to take that into consideration as a reason why he shouldn't go forward with his plans to create a baby with Amy, I wondered if he would hesitate to have sex with Amy for at least that reason--that his mother wouldn't approve.

At the very least, he could use that as a way to put Amy off if he thought she was trying to seduce him. :icon_razz:

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They'll probably drag it out as much as they can.

I really dont think Sheldon would have a problem with sex outside marriage and I think that is an unpopular opinion at least at the other board..

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They'll probably drag it out as much as they can.

I really dont think Sheldon would have a problem with sex outside marriage and I think that is an unpopular opinion at least at the other board..

Since he's never realy talked about such things, since they've never seemed to interest him in any way, I wonder what his opinion would be--for himself. He doesn't seem to care about the "amorous activities" of his friends as far as morality is concerned, but he does seem to have some boundaries based on things he's promised his mother or how he was raised--offering a warm beverage, not doing drugs (like coffee...), etc.

I don't think he's had to decide for himself before because he'd never had or wanted to consider it, as far as we have seen. But when it comes to that final step, I can see that while he might not hesitate for his own moral boundaries, he might do so for the sake of his mother's opinion.

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I dont' know but he did stick up for Amy in 4.03 when his Mom was fucking with him so I can see it again..

I don't think that is in the same arena as "committing a sin", as his mother would see it.

When his mother was trying to get him out of his cat-hoarding mode, she wasn't really trying to do anything against Amy. She was simply steering him back to where she knew he needed to be. She had spoken with Amy a bit, probably figured that she was harmless as far as "sinning" was concerned and that Sheldon really needed to repair his friendship with Amy. At this point he and Amy were still in their platonic phase, so it wasn't as if Mrs. Cooper was trying to manipulate his as far as sex was concerned.

But having a relationship he thinks his mother disapproves of and taking the major step of crossing that big moral line is very different. He doesn't seem to really be interested in violating every principle he was taught just to be contrary. The only thing he's contrary about is his mother's belief in Creationism and divine intervention, but he still has a great deal of respect for her and is essentially an obedient son.

Knowing that his mother would really disapprove of him having sex outside of marriage might not stop him entirely, but it could certainly cause him some conflict and/or guilt if or when it were to happen.

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I'm for romantic relationships - not that romantic, how other people make it or take it, but on weird, original, THEIR way. I'm sure, that would not change Sheldon. I just think, that one man, who hate other people touching, but one=Amy, IS the sweetest, that in this world could exist! And TBBT would be the one, who has this kind of relationship on TV. I really hope, it will go on. :icon_wink:

I agree! I think Most of you are over thinking Shamy, oo but Sheldon's this and that, he likes this and does not like that... -_- There is someone for every one.. what? you want Sheldon to grow old alone? or find some one new? He will never find someone else who is similar to him more than Amy. They are perfect they are soo much funnier together. Most of you do not like it because you don't like seeing Sheldon getting the smallest bit emotional. Well the fact is you can't control hormones and some emotions like when he got angry at Penny when she mentioned Leonard said about his 'little idea' or 'a lucky hunch', in the pilot he was going to masturbate for the sperm back - Sheldon: Well, today we tried masturbating for money- So he was going to touch him self them Im sure He is a human not a robot, granted he uses the Vulcan way sometime to block it. Penny is the one changing their behaviour because she is more experience with socialising and with the world and that is affecting Shamy and the rest of them even. I like their relationship, its sweet, fun and exciting because it's different! :D and the Penny and Amy sisters from another mister type relationship is really funny too. Don't dislike Amy because she is challenging Sheldon in all ways as He is challenging her in all ways.

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That's all well & good, but just because it's possible to do something doesn't mean that something should be done. This is a television show with a specific dynamic. Altering the characters because they can be altered changes that dynamic. One can change red to purple by adding blue... The problem is that you no longer have red. What we have is no longer the same show with the same characters that long-time fans have come to know, love and made the show special. Sure, some people will love the new dynamic. To those people I say, watch reruns of Friends.

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What I am saying is nothing is really changing. I respect that some people may not like the idea of Shamy, but every single character has changed since season 1 even Howard but nothing that is creating a massive affect. . I like your example of dynamics by the way. :)

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What I am saying is nothing is really changing. I respect that some people may not like the idea of Shamy, but every single character has changed since season 1 even Howard but nothing that is creating a massive affect. . I like your example of dynamics by the way. :)

Thanks for the compliment.

But the show has definitely changed (compare season 2 with season 4). I actually don't mind Shammy specifically. I do think it (along with other things) are being over emphesized though. Most of the time, I honestly can't figure out if I'm watching a show about 4 nerdy scientists or one about 3 girls with nerdy scientist friends.

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Guest I'm not dead Cheryl

That's all well & good, but just because it's possible to do something doesn't mean that something should be done. This is a television show with a specific dynamic. Altering the characters because they can be altered changes that dynamic. One can change red to purple by adding blue... The problem is that you no longer have red. What we have is no longer the same show with the same characters that long-times fans have come to know, love and made the show special. Sure, some people will love the new dynamic. To those people I say, watch reruns of Friends.

well, I love the new dynamics as well as the old dynamics, and I absolutely loathe Friends, so, that doesn't sound like an option to me, sorry. Also, the new dynamics is what is on the show right now, so, the people who likes it doesn't need to go watch reruns of Friends.... in any case, those who doesn't like it need to watch something else.

To me, though, THEY ARE the same characters. they still mantain their core and distinctive idiosyncrasies, they are in a new dynamic and in new situations, but that's the fun of it. As much as I loved The Middle Earth Paradigm for example, I wouldn't want the same thing over and over and over again. But you can never please everyone. Some people on this board complain that some characters are changing too much, some people compain that some other characters haven't changed at all.

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Thanks for the compliment.

But the show has definitely changed (compare season 2 with season 4). I actually don't mind Shammy specifically. I do think it (along with other things) are being over emphesized though. Most of the time, I honestly can't figure out if I'm watching a show about 4 nerdy scientists or one about 3 girls with nerdy scientist friends.

in any case, it would be now about 6 nerdy scientists and their blonde friend. Bernadette & Amy are also nerdy scientists. Or what? they don't count because they're girls? (as it has been stated before)

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I agree! I think Most of you are over thinking Shamy, oo but Sheldon's this and that, he likes this and does not like that... -_- There is someone for every one.. what? you want Sheldon to grow old alone? or find some one new? He will never find someone else who is similar to him more than Amy. They are perfect they are soo much funnier together. Most of you do not like it because you don't like seeing Sheldon getting the smallest bit emotional. Well the fact is you can't control hormones and some emotions like when he got angry at Penny when she mentioned Leonard said about his 'little idea' or 'a lucky hunch', in the pilot he was going to masturbate for the sperm back - Sheldon: Well, today we tried masturbating for money- So he was going to touch him self them Im sure He is a human not a robot, granted he uses the Vulcan way sometime to block it. Penny is the one changing their behaviour because she is more experience with socialising and with the world and that is affecting Shamy and the rest of them even. I like their relationship, its sweet, fun and exciting because it's different! :D and the Penny and Amy sisters from another mister type relationship is really funny too. Don't dislike Amy because she is challenging Sheldon in all ways as He is challenging her in all ways.

So good written! :icon_wink:

I'd like to add, that people always a little bit change. We have our character from the birth, yes, but with every new person in our life something changes, something new comes up. Amy sees new sides of life with Penny and Bernie "coming" to her. Howard wanted only supersexy wife, but here is... Bernie, and he becomes thinking otherwise. Penny to Leonard: "Before you I didn't see these guys being so stupid" etc...... Sheldon says, that he doesn't need a real human contact, but he gets jealous when Will Whiton says, Howard is his friend too. People does have many sides! And I'm really grateful for Amy and for what she does. I see Sheldon feeling something new, but I don't see him become other human being :icon_rolleyes: I understand him. :p

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in any case, it would be now about 6 nerdy scientists and their blonde friend. Bernadette & Amy are also nerdy scientists. Or what? they don't count because they're girls? (as it has been stated before)

Oh Snap! :) Well said. There are more than 4 nerds now :D and thank you Frieda :p

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Wow, I just wrote a little TBBT ficlet about Sheldon and Amy...

My first TBBT fic--and I don't really know where to post it or how. I know there's a Live Journal TBBT group and I've posted XF fic on LJ before, so maybe I'll look into that tonight...

Hee!

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Talk about over thinking it. Psst - Sheldon is not "going to grow old alone". He's a fictional character!

Pssst- you yourself has mentioned he's a fictional character, but you keep on ranting on why he is like this recently or why your beloved TV show is not conforming to your standards nowadays. Guess what, they're all fictional characters and they are written by people who are driven by multiple factors (such as tv ratings, general consensus and probably the network's standards) and your ranting on everything you hate about it won't change it. Not that I'm saying the show is perfect, but even someone like me who wanted things to happen on the show can't even boss the writers to do it my way.

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in any case, it would be now about 6 nerdy scientists and their blonde friend. Bernadette & Amy are also nerdy scientists. Or what? they don't count because they're girls? (as it has been stated before)

Don't get me wrong, it's still one of the better shows on television. It's just becoming more of a typical Hollywood sit-com. The new dynamic is very much like Friends (whether you like Friends or not is beside the point). I never liked Friends myself, but I did watch a few seasons, thanks to my Wife. Remove the fact that the characters on TBBT are nerdy scientists, and you have a near clone of Friends. Swap the Cheesecake Factory or the cafeteria for the Central Perk Coffee shop, swap Amy for Monica, etc, etc, and you have Friends with Geeks. Even better... Imagine a blind comparison. Take TBBT seasons 1-3, TBBT seasons 4-5 and Friends. Now imagine them all with generic actors or robotic drones. There is obviously a dramatic difference between TBBT seasons 1-3 & Friends. Now throw TBBT seasons 4-5 in the mix (all with generic actors). They (TBBT seasons4-5) are somewhere between seasons 1-3 & Friends (moving closer to Friends with each passing episode). A lot of people seem to deny there is a transformation going on with TBBT, even though it's as obvious as obvious can be. At least you you're not one of them. I just find it odd that you say you don't like Friends, yet like TBBT's new Dynamic, which is extremely Friends-like.

Oh, and it's not that the girls don't count because they're girls. As I've stated before, the show used to be about guys who were into comic books, Sci-Fi, collecting toys, science and who generally had trouble getting (or keeping) girls. Now the show is about relationships, with the nerd aspect being little more than the backstory or an afterthought. The problem with the girls is that the type of relationships they've brought to the show have completely changed the show & the characters that made it a hit to begin with. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. TBBT not only wasn't broken, it was unique, quirky and a hit. Now it's typical... Good, but typical.

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